Probably just an assumption. The alternative would have been an extreme left bunch led by Jeremy Corbyn with fantasy policies like planting 270,000 trees every single day for 20 years and wanting to tax people by the size of their gardens. The fact that the only viable alternative, Boris Johnson, won by a record breaking landslide shows how little faith the country had in him and his merry band of sycophants, like Owen Jones.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
iPhone Upgrade Program Temporarily Unavailable at Apple Stores in England Due to Lockdown Restrictions
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Probably just an assumption. The alternative would have been an extreme left bunch led by Jeremy Corbyn with fantasy policies like planting 270,000 trees every single day for 20 years and wanting to tax people by the size of their gardens. The fact that the only viable alternative, Boris Johnson, won by a record breaking landslide shows how little faith the country had in him and his merry band of sycophants, like Owen Jones.
But even on a percentage of inhabitants, America has totally bungled this pandemic!
An island nation by definition, the UK is no easier to access than say Aus/NZ if you ensure all borders to incoming flights (and in the UK’s case, ferries also) are closed. it’s much easier to lock the country down than its neighbours in continental Europe. You seem to be suggesting the Antipodes are some kind of remote isolated backwaters, which whilst geographically true to an extent, disregards the fact they ordinarily have massive amounts of airline traffic with SE Asia, which they quickly and as a result, successfully curtailed to limit the spread of infection.
Of course, it’s largely a moot point at this point of the second wave with infections spiking again following a relaxed summer of foreign holidays and most counterintuitively, the schools and universities all restarting. It’s not rocket science, containing the R rate. Just requires coordinated and decisive leadership and action. Unfortunately Boris Johnson is evidently incapable of even tucking his shirt into his 40” waistline.
But hey, let’s not get distracted from the important stuff. Folks getting iPhone minis and Pro Max upgrades safely 🙄
Last edited:
Places with low population densities often also tend to have larger structures - bigger houses with bigger rooms, bigger gardens, generally more space, allowing people to be more distant when visiting other people. I'm not saying this definitely does affect things, or it it does how much, my point is we don't know. You can't simply say "if country a had done what country b had done it would have the same results" as we just don't know that.
This 100%. There are so many people (I have friends and family in both) who don’t realize how badly the US and UK are handling this. They think the state of affairs is the best that can be expected, and they are wrong.
There are so, so many countries with single or low-double digit death tolls despite having millions of people.
Personally, I think the political leadership matters far less than the populace. Sure, things may be slightly better with labor (UK) or the Dems (US) running the show, but at the end of the day you’d still have people flagrantly and selfishly flouting mask and safe distancing measures in both countries, and a government either too afraid or too hamstrung to take those people to task. Selfishness and ignorance are the real plague here.
Yes, but...
The sheriff (one of those 'super sheriffs that can decide which laws they feel they should uphold) announced that he and his deputies would not respond to calls of stores and others that are not wearing masks. They would only respond if there was any violence, and so far, they show up 45 minutes later, after the guilty party is gone. He apparently won reelection, and there is no way to recall or fire him. His deputies, yes, but their union will kick and scream and shower local politicians with cash, and they will, usually, be reinstated.
So, yeah, Joe Biden has a hell of a long road to get anything to stick where such malignant jerks feel THEY are in charge of what laws are worth upholding.
Yep, and that’s exactly my point. This is ultimately a problem with the citizenry of the US and UK; law enforcement/politicians/etc are only effective if people themselves are willing to buy into common sense, science, and service of a greater goal. Sadly, it seems many many are not.
Couldn’t agree more. Shameful really. Theres a reason why Sweden took the route it did, as it’s reliant on the common sense and community ethos of the majority of its population.
There is already a striking mutation of the COVID-19 virus. Researchers are calling it 'COVID-2.0'. It has been found in, of all places, mink farms in Denmark (and potentially other countries).
The government of Denmark has ordered the destruction of every mink in the country, over 17 million, in an attempt to contain the newly discovered virus. It was spreading in one mink farm, and had spread to 12 people working at the 1,100 farms. The number one fear with this new virus is that it is different enough that none of the current antibody based treatments are working, and that people that have survived the COVID-19 virus have no immunity at all from this new virus.
So, people that are denying this current COVID-19 pandemic as a hoax and refusing to take precautions could be exposing and spreading a new mutation of the virus.
The longer the virus remains uncontained, uncontrolled, the greater the risk of mutations and the creation of a more virulent, and deadly, strain can emerge.
Wear a mask, avoid large groups of people, wash your hands, take control of your infection risk! This is NOT a joke. It's NOT a hoax. This is DEAD SERIOUS!!! To deny the pandemic is to condemn society to struggle with it longer, and end up costing many more lives.
