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People switch brands all the time as their needs and desires change. My first car was a Fiat 500, switched to a few Chevys, a Dodge, VW, and finally found and have settled with Toyota for the past 4 cars.

You really can't make a lifelong decision without living with the product for a significant time. Notning is perfect, so people will constantly be switching, not because what they have is no good, but because they want to try something different or see if it fits them better.

I never said that switching never happened, only that 94% of iPhone owners plan to buy another iPhone. That's pretty impressive and seems out of line with the number of folks in forum posts who claim that they switched or plan to switch. So either there is some demographic thing going on or some people just troll forums saying stuff like that.
 
Is this survey out of teenagers who own phones or teenagers in general? And what age group exactly?

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That is because Apple is easier to use.

I thought young people were better at using modern technology, and older people only have an advantage in computer science and old stuff like UNIX. All of the kids at my school are great at using a MacBook Air and an iPhone to waste time on useless stuff like Facebook.
 
Apple on the decline my ass. :rolleyes:

Maybe not yet, but eventually Apple for its own sake will need to be pushed again and a decline is definitely an effective way of doing this. Apple's flirtation with bankruptcy in the late 90s gave us the iPod. Now that they're in their comfort zone, we get a lot more subtle evolution than revolution. When the iPhone 4 came out two years ago, it was WOW, I have to have that. Now it's that's nice, what's the difference?

Come on Apple, rescue us from our cable TV tyranny.
 
I know droves of people (kids included) that have iPhones now. Of these people, only a very distinct minority have interest in switching over to the Mac from PCs.

Go figure. My thoughts were that they'd want to replicate that ease-of-use and accessibility with a Mac, but no. Lots of inertia there still.

Now - this isn't the case for iPads - they want those.
 
Explains the changing demographic of this forum, and all the self-entitlement seen nowadays.

Call me old school, but I could never afford a phone as a kid, and my parents sure as hell weren't going to buy me one.
 
I know droves of people (kids included) that have iPhones now. Of these people, only a very distinct minority have interest in switching over to the Mac from PCs.

Go figure. My thoughts were that they'd want to replicate that ease-of-use and accessibility with a Mac, but no. Lots of inertia there still.

Now - this isn't the case for iPads - they want those.

You can't show off your Mac as easily as you can with your iPhone and to a certain degree, your iPad. Besides, OSX is in a transition phase to iOS so it doesn't make sense to jump ship right now in case it doesn't work out that well (which some current OS X users will tell you with 10.7/10.8).
 
All phones have learning curves. I wouldn't say the iPhone is "easier to learn" nor would I perpetuate the myth that "it just works." If that were the case, you wouldn't see long lines at the genius bar; classes at the Apple Store on how to use your phone; several books on how to use an iPhone, etc.

I do find it funny that some people claim Android is completely "stolen" from iOS but then say it's so hard or complicated to use. Can't have it both ways.
 
Maybe not yet, but eventually Apple for its own sake will need to be pushed again and a decline is definitely an effective way of doing this. Apple's flirtation with bankruptcy in the late 90s gave us the iPod. Now that they're in their comfort zone, we get a lot more subtle evolution than revolution. When the iPhone 4 came out two years ago, it was WOW, I have to have that. Now it's that's nice, what's the difference?

Come on Apple, rescue us from our cable TV tyranny.
No... Many people said it's ugly and that antenna thing... Just same as this year's iPhone 5.
 
When the iPhone 4 came out two years ago, it was WOW, I have to have that. Now it's that's nice, what's the difference?

The irony is that Apple is arguably one company who took most risks in the way build the smartphones. For instance, Galaxy S->S2->S3 all largely followed the same construction method, ditto for numerous HTC phones. iPhone 5 is built very different from 4 as 4 was from 3GS. As much as 4 was criticized for being fragile, nobody even thought of building a phone from glass and now they are the only one to build a phone with a unibody construction (please note that I didn't say unibody shell, it's not the same as those HTC unibody phones)

On top of that the performance difference between and 4S and 5 much larger than the jump from 3GS to 4. However "Apple doesn't make changes" basically became a meme in the media despite those facts, mainly because Apple is now expected to basically pioneer and shake up a mass market every once in a while mainly because they are Apple. That's fair though; since Apple themselves claim they love to innovate and they are in the enviable position as the top dog, they should show that they can prove their own mantra.
 
Explains the changing demographic of this forum, and all the self-entitlement seen nowadays.

Call me old school, but I could never afford a phone as a kid, and my parents sure as hell weren't going to buy me one.

Self-entitlement? I'm not sure what that is. However, smart phones are less a luxury than a necessity. Parents want their kids to be accessible at all times. With prepaid plans increasingly affordable, it doesn't cost an arm and a leg for kids to have a smart phone. I'll bet many of the iPhones kids have are hand me downs from their parents anyway. I'm probably a lot older than you (cell phones weren't available until a decade after I got out of high school) and I don't see the problem with kids having smart phones. Times change as does technology. I don't see any virtue staying in the dark ages.
 
I can totally see why they call 'em iToys. Using one would make me feel like I'm still playing with a child's toy. Even Legos feel more adult now. I think most who play Legos now are adults. Kids are too busy with their iToys.

So who wants to play catch? :D
 
Most of them don't deserve an iPhone, let alone an iOS device, at least at my school. I'm in 8th grade (I start high school next year), and almost everybody has an iPhone. And almost everybody has a cracked display on their iPhone. All the kids in my region of the world are irresponsable. Some of these kids I'm forced to be with for 7 hours a day are so rude. Why would you reward a kid who has a snotty and stuck up (for lack of better words) attitude, with a smartphone that's worth $650 ARV (Actual Retail Value)?

My generation seriously angers me. I would even go to the lengths of saying it's a disgrace...:eek:
 
Wow this kind of story really contrasts to the ones we are reading in Europe about middle class American families queuing for free food supplies, and what's with all those tent cities?....I thought everyone in the US was rich?

You're reading about the citizens believing that they are entitled to a wealthy life without working for it. They don't appreciate the fact that if it weren't for the working class they'd be on the streets starving.
 
Most of them don't deserve an iPhone, let alone an iOS device, at least at my school. I'm in 8th grade (I start high school next year), and almost everybody has an iPhone. And almost everybody has a cracked display on their iPhone. All the kids in my region of the world are irresponsable. Some of these kids I'm forced to be with for 7 hours a day are so rude. Why would you reward a kid who has a snotty and stuck up (for lack of better words) attitude, with a smartphone that's worth $650 ARV (Actual Retail Value)?

My generation seriously angers me. I would even go to the lengths of saying it's a disgrace...:eek:

(insert grandmpa Simpson shaking his fist)

In my day middle school kids were hanging out with their friends and not posting on some interweb about stuff they couldn't even afford to buy....

:)
 
The irony is that Apple is arguably one company who took most risks in the way build the smartphones. For instance, Galaxy S->S2->S3 all largely followed the same construction method, ditto for numerous HTC phones. iPhone 5 is built very different from 4 as 4 was from 3GS. As much as 4 was criticized for being fragile, nobody even thought of building a phone from glass and now they are the only one to build a phone with a unibody construction (please note that I didn't say unibody shell, it's not the same as those HTC unibody phones)

On top of that the performance difference between and 4S and 5 much larger than the jump from 3GS to 4. However "Apple doesn't make changes" basically became a meme in the media despite those facts, mainly because Apple is now expected to basically pioneer and shake up a mass market every once in a while mainly because they are Apple. That's fair though; since Apple themselves claim they love to innovate and they are in the enviable position as the top dog, they should show that they can prove their own mantra.

So do we get a 'S' next year or a redesigned iPhone 6 that will make most people say WOW and please the media & mainstream, including a few people I overheard at the Apple store trying to dissect the visual changes of the 5? If we get an iPad Mini and especially if we get a revised regular iPad early, then anything may now be possible in Cupertino.
 
All phones have learning curves. I wouldn't say the iPhone is "easier to learn" nor would I perpetuate the myth that "it just works." If that were the case, you wouldn't see long lines at the genius bar; classes at the Apple Store on how to use your phone; several books on how to use an iPhone, etc.

I do find it funny that some people claim Android is completely "stolen" from iOS but then say it's so hard or complicated to use. Can't have it both ways.

Of course, you won't find the same lines at Android stores. Or Samsung stores. Or HTC stores. Or Motorola stores. Good luck solving your problems at Carrier stores.

You won't find those lines because those stores don't exist anywhere near where you live if they exist anywhere at all. I take the rest of your statements with the same regard as any weak anecdotal evidence.

Not very much value at all.

One thing that I will state is that from the very first iPhone to the iPhone 5, there has been a continuity to iOS and Apple's ecosystem that is simply not available with Android. From my perspective, that has everything to do with buyer loyalty to iPhone.
 
You're reading about the citizens believing that they are entitled to a wealthy life without working for it. They don't appreciate the fact that if it weren't for the working class they'd be on the streets starving.

No, people in other countries are seeing the worst off victims of massive economic dislocation brought about by unfettered capitalism and real estate speculation, bolstered by massive tax breaks to the richest Americans, while fighting unnecessary wars going on now for over a decade, all on borrowed money.

Your statement and my response don't belong here. I'll leave it at that.
 
No, people in other countries are seeing the worst off victims of massive economic dislocation brought about by unfettered capitalism and real estate speculation, bolstered by massive tax breaks to the richest Americans, while fighting unnecessary wars going on now for over a decade, all on borrowed money.

Your statement and my response don't belong here. I'll leave it at that.

where've I heard that before? Oh, right. Joe Biden. No, wait. David Axelrod. Oops, wrong again. NY Times? Dunno, maybe all of the above? :confused:
 
Interesting. I wonder what their buying habits are. Do these kids actually purchase apps or music?
 
It is interesting how few people (in that age group) have iPhones in the US (going from that poll).
If that was done here in Aus, I wouldn't be surprised if it was 70+%
 
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