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Clear does the same thing on their 4G service. How can throttling be considered "unlimited?"

I have Clear's Apollo hotspot and I have never been throttled. December I used 88,000 January I used 21,000 and this month I used 189,000 and my speeds never went down.
 
I think an important question has been skipped in this discussion:

Does AT&T legally and contractually have the right to revoke their promise to grandfather unlimited data plans onto future phone purchases?
 
Is it just me, or should the headline have read "AT&T customer awarded..." instead of "iPhone User Awarded..."?

I'm getting tired of people using Apple to get clicks. :rolleyes:

The device used by this customer is irrelevant in this case.
 
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theyre not taking away 17 million customers unlimited plans itll cause an outcry so why not sue if they hurt you?If you didnt get affected terribly by throttling just leave it

Your comment is a bit hard to understand, but I'll take a crack at what I think you mean. First, I think I noted 17 million POTENTIAL... It is possible that many of those 17 million haven't been throttled, and I doubt they would have a case if they did not get throttled.

However, given the quite low 2GB limit, if they are indeed cracking down based on that criteria alone, I'd guess a LOT of people with that plan have been affected. Also, the idea here isn't so much to get the $850 (and it appears it could be more or less depending on the length of the contract remaining), but to hurt AT&T as much as possible to teach them a lesson.
 
Yes, because sprints unlimited is so slow (CDMA) that you won't really download that much in a month anyway...

It depends where I am. If I'm in SFO i can get 2+ mbps dl speeds. And we were talking about LTE which would be miles ahead of Sprints mostly crappy CDMA.
 
Good for this guy. I am now inspired to do the same.

The gall of AT&T...

Update: AT&T issued this statement to MacRumors: "This is a small claims matter. We are evaluating next steps, including appeal. But at the end of the day, our contract governs our relationship with our customers."


Their idea of "contractual obligations" is what will lose customers like me at the end of the day.
 
Class actions are dumb. Only the lawyers win in the end.

Yes, but in this case it's not about getting financial compensation for a wrong, it's about getting AT&T to stop unfair throttling. I could care less about the $850. And I would be glad if a group of attourneys stick it to ATT for millions as along as I get what they promised, unlimited minutes.

I'm all in for class action.
 
This guy won 850 bucks.... If you get involved with a class action suit after the lawyers are paid and then, you get 12 or 15 bucks...


This is why class action is the WRONG way to go...


Aside from that, per what the article said "class action" is no longer an option.. The corporations banked on the masses NOT filing a suit... The only way they get hurt is if 5 or 6 thousand win the same way this guy won... that way the corporation takes a huge hit in legal fees... However like I said, they bank on that never happening... To be honest, its a very safe bet...


I'm happy for him.... he got the money he deserved, and he didn't have to pay a dime to a class action vulture..

IMO

It's not about the money. A class action law suit is more likely (IMO) to get ATT to play fair rather than filing a bunch of small claims. If we go with a bunch of small claims, ATT just pays out (may more per customer), but more than likely does not change their policy for the rest of the customers.

I guess I want ATT to feel the pressure the way Netflix did when they raised prices. Not that I don't they were justified, but why o why does ATT not see the same customer backlash?
 
I think an important question has been skipped in this discussion:

Does AT&T legally and contractually have the right to revoke their promise to grandfather unlimited data plans onto future phone purchases?

If it's anything like Verizon's contract, it's garbage. Verizon says "We agree to do A, B, C, and we will provide D, E. It gives all these obligations and then reads 'we deserve the right to change this contract". Complete garbage. Even if Verizon throttles heavily (which they don't yet), they reserve the right to change anything they want.

The only thing I can think of happening is the end of cellular phone contracts. Ultimately, if a cellular company can change the rules in the middle of the two year contract, then the customer should be able to leave without a fee. In this case, everyone loses because then all cell phones default to their factory price.
 
Not to mention the policy is offensive on its face, no matter how much anyone uses there will always be a top 5% that AT&T is free to screw with in terms of data rate however they like.
 
When users get throttled - they should use the RootMetrics coverage app and start running tests.

When the throttled user's slow as molasses data speeds start bringing down the provider's scores then maybe the provider will care more.

Data speed wars are ramping up and having your scores hammered would hurt...

Just installed it. Will use if throttled, which I anticipate having received an AT&T warning text the past two months. So much for unlimited.
 
I hope more people win money from AT&T, they should suck it up and honor their unlimited users by not throttling them.
 
Can't switch to Sprint!

For everybody suggesting that disgruntled/throttled AT&T customers switch to Sprint- what about the simple fact that you can't browse and talk on the phone at the same time? I have to look things up constantly while I talk to people. Not to mention I believe it also makes you interrupt GPS to talk too on Sprint. And a voice call also stops email from being pushed too I've heard- but can't confirm.

FAIL.

Dealbreaker on the main point alone. Feh.

BTW I get throttled in central NJ at under 2GB, down to 16KB/s. But my maximum 3G dl speed is usually around 250KB/s- or under so it's almost wgas at this point?
 
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I could care less about any monetary damages from AT&T. I just want them to live up to their end of the bargain, unlimited 3G.

And with that said, should they start/keep throttling me, then I too will file in small claims court. But again not for cash.
 
How to help the cause?

I am on the unlimited plan and might try turning off wifi and bounce up against the 2 to 3 GB threshold to see what happens.

Any one have ideas how to help the individual user cause?

I believe we need to work together on this in order to achieve the unlimited
data that we signed up for. and NOT in the way of a class action lawsuit.

OK YouTube wheres that Honey Badger video.
 
Your comment is a bit hard to understand, but I'll take a crack at what I think you mean. First, I think I noted 17 million POTENTIAL... It is possible that many of those 17 million haven't been throttled, and I doubt they would have a case if they did not get throttled.

However, given the quite low 2GB limit, if they are indeed cracking down based on that criteria alone, I'd guess a LOT of people with that plan have been affected. Also, the idea here isn't so much to get the $850 (and it appears it could be more or less depending on the length of the contract remaining), but to hurt AT&T as much as possible to teach them a lesson.

I suffer from terrible communication skills. what I mean is.AT&T is probably not going to try and kill the unlimited data with a number that high.So if you are one of the FEW throttled suing isn't going to spoil the fun for the rest of us ie.Grandfathered plans revoked due to lawsuits
 
$1.5b

If only 10% of those 17 million customers with unlimited plans sued in small claims court and were awarded $850, that would be $1.5 billion ATT would have to pay. Get in line, folks! It's time to show ATT that they can't keep screwing customers!
 
I hope there is a decent service for data when I return to the states. AU in Japan has a great unlimited plan.
 
The only thing I can think of happening is the end of cellular phone contracts. Ultimately, if a cellular company can change the rules in the middle of the two year contract, then the customer should be able to leave without a fee. In this case, everyone loses because then all cell phones default to their factory price.

That's exactly what the law is here, if they change terms of contract in such a way that it would cost the customer more/give them less of something, then they can walk away from it without penalty.
 
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