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iPhone vs Android - why I came back
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Using a combination of BiteSMS, Notified Pro, and statusbar notifications for notified, you can get substantially better notifications
Obviously, this solution isn't free, and does require a jailbreak...but it works wonderfully
What phone do you own, then, troll?
The Vibrant. T-Mobile's version of the Galaxy S. Stock except for rooting (to delete bloat apps) and I added Android's stock Mobile AP (wifi tethering) back in.
My roommate has the iPhone 4 and we compare them often.
I am new to iPhone. I just bought my iPhone 4 3 days ago. I'm coming from Blackberry.
Anyway, whoever says the retina display is not all that and the android phones out there have as good resolution hasn't really used and iPhone 4.
I put a Galaxy S next to mine and the Super Amoled is a joke compared to my iPhone 4.
You don't have to believe me. Go to the nearest samsung store with someone that owns an iPhone 4 and see for yourself.
Also, as the OP says, the "antennagate" thing is a none issue. Unless you are a troglodyte and have a mass of bananas for hands, it won't really make any difference.
The iPhone 4 is hands down the best smart phone out there, regardless of what the Android fan boys say( they can be 100 times worse than Apple fan boys ).
Anyway, whoever says the retina display is not all that and the android phones out there have as good resolution hasn't really used and iPhone 4.
I put a Galaxy S next to mine and the Super Amoled is a joke compared to my iPhone 4.
You don't have to believe me. Go to the nearest samsung store with someone that owns an iPhone 4 and see for yourself.
Also, as the OP says, the "antennagate" thing is a none issue. Unless you are a troglodyte and have a mass of bananas for hands, it won't really make any difference.
The iPhone 4 is hands down the best smart phone out there, regardless of what the Android fan boys say( they can be 100 times worse than Apple fan boys ).
I tried using the Nexus One for a while, but I missed my iPhone too much so I switched back after a few days. The Android OS is nice but I prefer iOS's style and bigger selection of apps. I also think the iOS app store is cleaner looking than the Android Market.
Also I think flame wars are very gay.
Just buy the phone you like. That's it. No need to fight about it.
I still love my BB. My wife uses it.
Reason I have the iPhone? It has 3G. Here in Thailand the iPhone is the only phone that has unlimited 3G with TrueMove. Thailand still doesn't have 3G and the only 3G they have is TrueMove and they offer it in the 850mhz band.
Not many phones here do that. Plus it has unlimited 3G. My BB has a 1GB limit.
So I bought it. And I love it. Especially iBooks.
Build quality is the best.
You like android? So go get it. Who cares anyway. It's just a stupid phone.
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Just buy the phone you like. That's it. No need to fight about it.
I still love my BB. My wife uses it.
Reason I have the iPhone? It has 3G. Here in Thailand the iPhone is the only phone that has unlimited 3G with TrueMove. Thailand still doesn't have 3G and the only 3G they have is TrueMove and they offer it in the 850mhz band.
Not many phones here do that. Plus it has unlimited 3G. My BB has a 1GB limit.
So I bought it. And I love it. Especially iBooks.
Build quality is the best.
You like android? So go get it. Who cares anyway. It's just a stupid phone.
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+1 to all you say, including the tip-o-the-hat to CoPilot, which has evolved into a very nice GPS system indeed.
The 4 is just an incredible upgrade to an already groundbreaking product. Isn't the display a wonder? The camera is first-rate, too. And such nice sound quality. "Antenna-gate" meanwhile has been a total non-issue for me. All in all, the 4 works well and is such a pretty thing.
I don't begrudge Apple it's approach to multitasking, as it was architected to maximize battery life and, as you say, lets developers do appropriate things in the background. Having jailbroken my previous iPhone 3G in order to enable "real" multitasking, I can attest that it reduces battery life and stability. The approach in iOS 4 works very well in its intended use. Besides CoPilot doing its thing in the background, and Pandora too, hings such as slow-loading web pages load in the background while I'm doing other things, thanks to the 512MB system RAM too. I really don't see what "real" multitasking would do for me besides send me running for my charger more often.
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The 4 is just an incredible upgrade to an already groundbreaking product. Isn't the display a wonder? The camera is first-rate, too. And such nice sound quality. "Antenna-gate" meanwhile has been a total non-issue for me. All in all, the 4 works well and is such a pretty thing.
I don't begrudge Apple it's approach to multitasking, as it was architected to maximize battery life and, as you say, lets developers do appropriate things in the background. Having jailbroken my previous iPhone 3G in order to enable "real" multitasking, I can attest that it reduces battery life and stability. The approach in iOS 4 works very well in its intended use. Besides CoPilot doing its thing in the background, and Pandora too, hings such as slow-loading web pages load in the background while I'm doing other things, thanks to the 512MB system RAM too. I really don't see what "real" multitasking would do for me besides send me running for my charger more often.
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FYI, if any of you all are wanting to try out Android, might as well wait it out a little bit more until Gingerbread (Android OS 2.3) is out.
If you want to wait for a superphone, grab the rumored MB860 (Droid X successor called the Motorola Olympus). [most likely will be released first quarter of 2011]
Motorola Olympus will pack an NVIDIA Tegra 2 SoC chip that will outshine all competitors (Cortex A9 phone with ridiculous graphical prowess)
Youtube video of Unreal Engine 3 in action
Of course, Unreal Engine 3 will be available for iOS as well, but i'm not sure Apple will be able to compete processor wise with future Android phones. We will see, however.
If you want to wait for a superphone, grab the rumored MB860 (Droid X successor called the Motorola Olympus). [most likely will be released first quarter of 2011]
Motorola Olympus will pack an NVIDIA Tegra 2 SoC chip that will outshine all competitors (Cortex A9 phone with ridiculous graphical prowess)
Youtube video of Unreal Engine 3 in action
Of course, Unreal Engine 3 will be available for iOS as well, but i'm not sure Apple will be able to compete processor wise with future Android phones. We will see, however.
The only phone that will have vanilla Android OS is the Nexus One, which is hard to get these days.
OR...
You can root your phone (essentially jailbreaking the phone) and install custom Android OS onto it. You can also change the look and feel, color of notification bar, overclock your phone, or undervolt your phone for even better battery life. Its not hard to root it, depending on the phone you have, but www.xda-developers.com is a good place to go for Android Rooting information.
in essence, because im able to overclock / undervolt my Droid X, the phone will easily last another 2 years. I can now overclock to 1.3 ghz stable.
Do this for me: hang around until iOS 5. If it still doesn't meet your needs when it's released, then feel free to jump ship. It's worth a try, and it will teach you to stick with one phone longer than six months.
Haha, That's what I'm planning to do, even then I'd probably keep the iphone 4 to run the newer ios stuff..or until it gets too old to do anything.
not me ...staying where i am thank you...having removed myself from apples ass.......you lot are very welcome to stay brown tounges...ta ta
...you lot are very welcome to stay brown tounges...ta taI suspect the android os is simply not all size fits all type. It is always better for a hardware company makes its own hardware and software (i.e. ps3, xbox 360, etc). Plus, perphaps, android os has limits or the original codes were so unrefined that it will take a long time to reach maturity. If froyo is not there, will gingerbread or honeycomb? Or Google's style of "footloose" makes the os never just right. However, they are smart to let it loose for free. Many manufactures are gobbling up and making phones. It will even out. Once the iphone is on all carriers, I bet android os fall like humpty dumpty!!
Well, I'm not considering coming back to iPhone any time soon.
I had the first iPhone, then the 3G, skipped the 3GS and got a HTC magic. Admittedly did come back to iphone after a few months, but have since got a Nexus One, and have forgot about the iPhone 4... I don't seem toi have the same issues people attribute to android...my UI is perfectly smooth, apps are fast and while there isn't as large an app store I find my needs from a phone are covered well.
I have an iPad running 4.2, so I know how good IOS is, but have since acquired a Dell Streak 5" tablet and find that is also quite usable.
I don't think either side can claim to be perfect by any means - both platforms have their strengths and I can't see iPhone struggling anytime soon, but android is certainly improving and from what I see gaining quite a following (I run training courses and naturally the attendees have their phones out at some point - most are iPhones but more and more HTC android devices turning up)
I had the first iPhone, then the 3G, skipped the 3GS and got a HTC magic. Admittedly did come back to iphone after a few months, but have since got a Nexus One, and have forgot about the iPhone 4... I don't seem toi have the same issues people attribute to android...my UI is perfectly smooth, apps are fast and while there isn't as large an app store I find my needs from a phone are covered well.
I have an iPad running 4.2, so I know how good IOS is, but have since acquired a Dell Streak 5" tablet and find that is also quite usable.
I don't think either side can claim to be perfect by any means - both platforms have their strengths and I can't see iPhone struggling anytime soon, but android is certainly improving and from what I see gaining quite a following (I run training courses and naturally the attendees have their phones out at some point - most are iPhones but more and more HTC android devices turning up)
Android is way more customizable than iOS, even without getting root access. It also already offers more features than iOS.
When did you switch? Yeah - I remember you being a Droid X advocate, along with another X user (I think, at least
I switched back in the beginning of October. Don't get me wrong, I'm still a Droid X advocate - its a great phone - little issues (mainly with the music app) caused me to switch back. Still within my 30-day window at Verizon so it all worked out.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Love my Nexus One; it's definitely better than iPhone 4. But I love also love iPad running 4.2. They compliment each other so nicely.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Love my Nexus One; it's definitely better than iPhone 4. But I love also love iPad running 4.2. They compliment each other so nicely.
Especially the part where you tether the ipad to the nexusone for wifi goodness.
Interesting to see that there are a few iPhone-to-Android-and-back-again switchers here, myself included.
Had the iPhone 3G and 3Gs, switched to a Nexus One and swore I'd never return to iPhone and turned into somewhat of an Android fanboy.
I loved the high customisability, the widgets, notification system, and the overall euphoric hippy feeling associated with it being an open platform.
And then Froyo came out.
I was massively excited about the imminent prospect of updating to Froyo. But despite reports of it being delivered over the air to other Nexus One devices, mine didn't seem to be receiving the update. Then I dug a little deeper, done a bit of research, and it turned out I wasn't receiving the update because Vodafone were busy preparing their own version of Froyo, tinkering it to be "optimised" for their network, with no ETA and an indefinite waiting time. That's when I stopped seeing Android through rose tinted glasses.
HTC Desire users on Vodafone had it much worse. They received an OTA update which done nothing but riddled the device with Vodafone's proprietary crapware.
Eventually, a couple of months later, the Froyo update came but I had already ended up arguing my way out of the contract and returning the phone.
All of a sudden the prospect of a walled garden, especially one where carriers and their interference and bloatware weren't allowed, didn't seem like such a bad thing after all.
The updates in iOS 4.0 were, in my eyes, enough to narrow the lead Android had over iOS, and in my opinion there is simply no Android smartphone out there which comes close to the design and build quality of iPhone 4.
Now that I have an iPhone 4 I couldn't be happier. I forgot about lots of iOS' little nicities which I missed while being on Android, such as the way better implementation of copy and paste, the overall buttery smoothness of the UI and most importantly for me, the far better Mail application.
Having said all that, I think it's great that we've finally got decent alternatives to iPhones such as Android and WP7 to give Apple a bit of a kick up the butt and increase competition, (for a while I really didn't like Apple's attitude and the hints of a monopolistic monster they appeared to be turning into) and I'm really looking forward to seeing Gingerbread and future iterations of Android to see if they can tempt me back.
Had the iPhone 3G and 3Gs, switched to a Nexus One and swore I'd never return to iPhone and turned into somewhat of an Android fanboy.
I loved the high customisability, the widgets, notification system, and the overall euphoric hippy feeling associated with it being an open platform.
And then Froyo came out.
I was massively excited about the imminent prospect of updating to Froyo. But despite reports of it being delivered over the air to other Nexus One devices, mine didn't seem to be receiving the update. Then I dug a little deeper, done a bit of research, and it turned out I wasn't receiving the update because Vodafone were busy preparing their own version of Froyo, tinkering it to be "optimised" for their network, with no ETA and an indefinite waiting time. That's when I stopped seeing Android through rose tinted glasses.
HTC Desire users on Vodafone had it much worse. They received an OTA update which done nothing but riddled the device with Vodafone's proprietary crapware.
Eventually, a couple of months later, the Froyo update came but I had already ended up arguing my way out of the contract and returning the phone.
All of a sudden the prospect of a walled garden, especially one where carriers and their interference and bloatware weren't allowed, didn't seem like such a bad thing after all.
The updates in iOS 4.0 were, in my eyes, enough to narrow the lead Android had over iOS, and in my opinion there is simply no Android smartphone out there which comes close to the design and build quality of iPhone 4.
Now that I have an iPhone 4 I couldn't be happier. I forgot about lots of iOS' little nicities which I missed while being on Android, such as the way better implementation of copy and paste, the overall buttery smoothness of the UI and most importantly for me, the far better Mail application.
Having said all that, I think it's great that we've finally got decent alternatives to iPhones such as Android and WP7 to give Apple a bit of a kick up the butt and increase competition, (for a while I really didn't like Apple's attitude and the hints of a monopolistic monster they appeared to be turning into) and I'm really looking forward to seeing Gingerbread and future iterations of Android to see if they can tempt me back.
Turning Android into a walled garden is the right of a carrier or manufacturer such as Dell etc.
But having little or no options for the full Android experience is a real issue (Developers not included, users i am speaking of). Add to that the fact that you never really know when or if a carrier's phone will be updated and you have more problems. I still want to get one to play with though. Maybe this week.
But having little or no options for the full Android experience is a real issue (Developers not included, users i am speaking of). Add to that the fact that you never really know when or if a carrier's phone will be updated and you have more problems. I still want to get one to play with though. Maybe this week.
I recently owned an HTC HD2 running android just to play around with the os and see if it suited me better than iOS. In just under a month i sold it and went back to using my iphone. Its just so much easier to use. There were a few things i really did like about android (apps like itching thumb, wifi hotspots and the ability to swap roms to whatever u want) but in the end i dont want to spend my life tinkering with my phone to make it work. I want it working from day 1, and iphone does that. Sticking with my 3GS as iphone 4 doesnt really offer anything new that i need. Really missing the 4.3" screen but typing is still better on iOS. Like others have said, iOS is simply more polished than android