Some people take better care if their phones than others though, I've seen way too many shattered ip's as of late.
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iPhone with Sapphire Display Glass Reportedly in Trial Production
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Some people take better care if their phones than others though, I've seen way too many shattered ip's as of late.
Or....
What if the entire exterior of the phone is made of sapphire? Could the entire phone then be the display also?
I'm asking because it sounds cool, but I don't know if that's even possible.
What if the entire exterior of the phone is made of sapphire? Could the entire phone then be the display also?
I'm asking because it sounds cool, but I don't know if that's even possible.
All serious (expensive) watches use sapphire to cover the dial. No matter how careful you are, you WILL bump into things with your watch if it's constantly on your wrist.
Having said that, I do think all this investment into sapphire is for an iWatch where the scratch resistance properties would actually be worth the effort.
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Who says this is for the iPhone?
there is no way that apple is making this entire manufacturing facility for just a 1.5" screen. They can outsource that especially since they will not sell as many iWatches as iPhones.
The sapphire screens will be incorporated into iPhones and iPads as well (maybe later on). I wouldn't be surprised if eventually MacBooks get the sapphire screen as well.
The sapphire screens will be incorporated into iPhones and iPads as well (maybe later on). I wouldn't be surprised if eventually MacBooks get the sapphire screen as well.
This is Apple we're talking about here. It's all about value.
If you look only at the material cost of saphire vs. gorilla, saphire looks more expensive. But, if you include the cost of repairing the face of broken iPhones, it becomes more cost effective to use something that is far more resistant to breakage. This may have a lot of value after all.
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Perhaps the new Apple Campus and Store exteriors will be built using saphire glass. The New York store needs it now!
Yes, Apple should make an exception and do a production run of ONE unit with the same screen as the current for you when they make the change
OK, OK, sheesh. I can only speak from my own experience. I didn't know this was an issue. I never thought I was all that ginger with my device.
Liquid metal, sapphire glass, what about the arm band. Bio sensors, sure, but what is the strap made of? Unicorn leather?
Right, and a lot of watches use it and have for years, so it certainly makes sense.
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Well, if they're going to make an entire phone out of a gemstone, I'm holding out for the all-diamond version.
My cousin bought this watch with sapphire glass I think it was a Seiko *that had anti-reflective coating. Usually you can see this as the reflexions are tinted green or blue. But on this watch I literally couldn't see the glass at all. It looked incredible. Usually sapphire glass is quite prone to reflexions as the refractive index is higher (something like 1.8 I think. Glas is usually around 1.5), so this is probably something Apple might want to add.
Sapphire use:
2012 - iSight lense
2013 - Touch ID home button
2014 - iWatch
2015 - Full screen
I spoke to someone who worked at GT and a sister company a few years back when they were in direct talks with apple about using sapphire. He alluded to bigger plans, but said they were focusing on small steps first. It seems pretty clear that they are working to ramp up production and get the cost down before committing to something bigger and that AZ facility would make sense for a late 2014 iWatch.
2012 - iSight lense
2013 - Touch ID home button
2014 - iWatch
2015 - Full screen
I spoke to someone who worked at GT and a sister company a few years back when they were in direct talks with apple about using sapphire. He alluded to bigger plans, but said they were focusing on small steps first. It seems pretty clear that they are working to ramp up production and get the cost down before committing to something bigger and that AZ facility would make sense for a late 2014 iWatch.
The timeline looks fairly possible..I think the iWatch would be the initial candidate because it would allow apple to make the device better (its gonna take a bigger beating compared to a pocketable phone) and would allow them to slowly ramp up production as it would probably not require the ammount of sapphire as an iPhone would.
Just fanwanking,
If Apple went with an edge to edge display, possibly rendering a lot of cases/bumpers useless, the screen better be a lot stronger.
That said, this looks like iWatch territory. While I could not see Apple making the iPhone waterproof, I sure hope they can for the iWatch.
More fanwanking, but Apple likes to make products that can complement each other. The current AppleTV is great when paired with an iDevice/Mac, using AirPlay to extend functionality of an application. You want a bigger screen? Get an iPad. You want to take a device in the shower? Get an iWatch?
Side note: Apparently the lightning connector is waterproof!
If Apple went with an edge to edge display, possibly rendering a lot of cases/bumpers useless, the screen better be a lot stronger.
That said, this looks like iWatch territory. While I could not see Apple making the iPhone waterproof, I sure hope they can for the iWatch.
More fanwanking, but Apple likes to make products that can complement each other. The current AppleTV is great when paired with an iDevice/Mac, using AirPlay to extend functionality of an application. You want a bigger screen? Get an iPad. You want to take a device in the shower? Get an iWatch?
Side note: Apparently the lightning connector is waterproof!
You haven't thought about it, but Apple has. Steve Jobs had to convince Corning to produce Gorilla glas, which they had developed in the 60ies, but never found a commercial use for it. Sapphire is just the newest in material research.
AppleInLVX said:
Hope you're right about the composite. Sapphire's the second hardest light-transmissible material, but when it shatters, it (like a diamond as well) really shatters...
Which is why Apple's implementation of laminating it in/under Gorilla glass makes a lot of sense.
If you don't have a screen protector, I'd bet the house you have tons of little scratches all over the glass. Maybe not big, noticible ones. But rather hundreds of tiny ones. I keep my stuff pristine, but I didn't use a screen protrector on last years iP5 and while the display looked awesome, if you held it at a certain angle under a light, you could see a ton of scratches. Just the way it is. There is just no way possible your screen is not scratched if you use it & carry it with you every day. No matter how careful you are.
Sapphire screens would be a much welcomed addition to the iPhone.
I don't think sapphire is more resistant to breakage. At least, not unless it's made a lot thicker than current smartphone glass, or bonded to it.
According to Corning's FAQ:
IS IT TRUE THAT GORILLA GLASS WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED IN THE 1960S?
"No. That has been a popular myth, which apparently resulted from a misunderstanding of the facts. "
"It’s true that Corning experimented with chemically strengthened glass in 1960, as part of an initiative called “Project Muscle.” In 1961, Corning developed a glass composition it promoted under the Chemcor® brand, which featured state-of-the-art strength and durability. Chemcor glass was incorporated into tableware, ophthalmic products, and applications for the automotive, aviation, and pharmaceutical industries.
"When Corning began developing a tough new cover glass for electronic devices in 2006, Corning scientists, of course, drew upon the company’s prior expertise with strengthened glass. However, Corning Gorilla Glass is a different product and glass composition than Chemcor. (...)"
Industrial diamonds are manufactured as much as mined (if not more). But the application of diamond in a resistance setting is not like growing a crystal per se. It can be applied as a micro-crystalline coating, which, if the electrical properties work, would be fine for a home button, all else being equal. And I don't know that they are.
Shattering sapphire
Oddly enough, I don't have too many problems scratching my phone screens (I cary a 5 and a 5S in the same pocket, one naked and one in a case so I can feel the difference when fishing them out of my pocket, and so they don't beat each other up in my pocket), but I have shattered two sapphire watch crystals, and scratched a few as well. Diamond bracelet means remember not to cross your arms, or your bracelet will remind your watch that while 9 is impressive, it ain't a 10!
Oddly enough, I don't have too many problems scratching my phone screens (I cary a 5 and a 5S in the same pocket, one naked and one in a case so I can feel the difference when fishing them out of my pocket, and so they don't beat each other up in my pocket), but I have shattered two sapphire watch crystals, and scratched a few as well. Diamond bracelet means remember not to cross your arms, or your bracelet will remind your watch that while 9 is impressive, it ain't a 10!
But doesn't sapphire gives a shade of purple? how would that affect the color gamut of the display
iOS and softwares are as important as the hardware's quality of build. Today's iOS is not just good as before, full of bugs and crashes,white colors that eating battery and make you either cry or change your device's angle, things that were not exist before or were exist at its lowest and was a truly advantage over OSes like Android, It is good to see Apple using new materials but they have to fix the ecosystem too...
why? GG was more durable and flexible than glass. and since youve never used a rumored sapphire display, how can it seem a "notable improvement"? youve never touched nor seen one, let alone used or tested one.
