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Nope. I haven't. In fact, this is my first camera in the history of my life. I didn't even know what they were until I got this phone. I'm gonna come clean and admit I didn't even know what a phone was until I got this phone. And quite frankly, still figuring out this whole "internet" thing...and more to the point, I'm not even sure if I'm commenting to a person right now?

No worries, mate. You not only have a decent camera, you have a great camera! Go out, make a lot of photographs, and have a ton of fun!
 
is that your girlfriend/wife?
If so, you are one lucky man! (she's got beautiful eyes!) ;)


Ha, she will be happy to hear you said that. She's my ex-girlfriend. But still one of my besties and we still hang out when we have time.
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No worries, mate. You not only have a decent camera, you have a great camera! Go out, make a lot of photographs, and have a ton of fun!

Thank you sir. I LOVE this camera :)
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Is that what you use for a camera?

And who is pretending it's better than it is, or is better than what you referenced above?

This guy is a very angry guy lol. Me thinks he couldn't get an iPhone X lol.
 
In the end, compelling photographs do not come from the gear one uses. Rather, it's the photographer's eye, life experiences, curiosity, imagination, ability to read light, ability to compose, ability to selectively reveal and hide information, ability to edit and post-process, and more drives what makes a strong image that stirs a viewer's imagination.

But you're limiting yourself to one style of photography and trying to pretend it's all anyone needs. Street photography, life journalling, etc work that way.

I will say, for me, if the photo cannot be perfectly exposed and printed razor-sharp at 20x30 inches, it may as well not exist. Of course you need a skilled photographers eye *and* a lot of purely technical skills to make it happen. But without the gear all you're going to get at 20x30 is a blurry, grainy mess. No amount of curiosity or imagination is going to make up for the shoddy gear.

You can say it's the photographer more than the gear as much as you want. Nothing changes the fact that a half-kilogram of glass gets me a razor-sharp image and a half-gram of glass gets me a blurry mess (at decent print size).

I have sold prints in that size which are hanging right now in client sites. I love taking beautiful pictures. I have zero interest in documenting little life details on instagram, I am way to busy actually enjoying my life for that. So an iPhone camera literally has zero usefulness *in my opinion* beyond a note-taking device (like photographing price stickers in stores)

People like you are so insistent that the iPhone is basically on par with the DSLR for all practical purposes, that's absurdly false. It's only on par for jobs where quality doesn't matter.

Now, Apple and it's fans really want to pretend the iPhone is on par with a modern DSLR in non-ideal lighting doing massing enlargements.
 
I can tell a lot about a photographer by asking just a simple question:

"What do you shoot?"

If the answer is: "I like making photographs of <insert what you like making photographs of>." That tells me something interesting, and will likely have an interesting conversation. And will probably talk about projects, which really interests me.

If instead the answer is, something like: "I shoot with a Canon 5D IV with a 70-200mm f/4 zoom (or whatever, could be any brand camera or lens)," that tells me something very different. And will likely be bored to tears trying to have an interesting conversation with that person.
 
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I haven’t even gotten in the camera settings. I had just received the phone that day and left for a guys weekend out at a buddy’s cabin after I was able to get it activated. That was the very first picture I took with the X. I will definitely have to check more features out!
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How does one do a long exposure? I just checked settings and there isn’t anything for a long exposure shot.

You can do it post, if you have shot it as a Live Photo. Just swipe down to access photo effects.

https://iphonephotographyschool.com/long-exposure/
 
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But you're limiting yourself to one style of photography and trying to pretend it's all anyone needs. Street photography, life journalling, etc work that way.

I will say, for me, if the photo cannot be perfectly exposed and printed razor-sharp at 20x30 inches, it may as well not exist. Of course you need a skilled photographers eye *and* a lot of purely technical skills to make it happen. But without the gear all you're going to get at 20x30 is a blurry, grainy mess. No amount of curiosity or imagination is going to make up for the shoddy gear.

You can say it's the photographer more than the gear as much as you want. Nothing changes the fact that a half-kilogram of glass gets me a razor-sharp image and a half-gram of glass gets me a blurry mess (at decent print size).

I have sold prints in that size which are hanging right now in client sites. I love taking beautiful pictures. I have zero interest in documenting little life details on instagram, I am way to busy actually enjoying my life for that. So an iPhone camera literally has zero usefulness *in my opinion* beyond a note-taking device (like photographing price stickers in stores)

People like you are so insistent that the iPhone is basically on par with the DSLR for all practical purposes, that's absurdly false. It's only on par for jobs where quality doesn't matter.

Now, Apple and it's fans really want to pretend the iPhone is on par with a modern DSLR in non-ideal lighting doing massing enlargements.


Oh man... Your "photography" is about gear and sharpness. That's OK, there are a lot of photography forums that are full of that and the search for "the best."


"People like you are so insistent that the iPhone is basically on par with the DSLR for all practical purposes, that's absurdly false. "

Nope. Not my view at all. I don't expect you to understand where I'm coming from, your photography being about gear and sharpness. Mine isn't. We have absolutely nothing in common and nothing to talk about.

Have a good one...


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Oh man... Your "photography" is about gear and sharpness. That's OK, there are a lot of photography forums that are full of that and the search for "the best."


"People like you are so insistent that the iPhone is basically on par with the DSLR for all practical purposes, that's absurdly false. "

Nope. Not my view at all. I don't expect you to understand where I'm coming from, your photography being about gear and sharpness. Mine isn't. We have absolutely nothing in common and nothing to talk about.

Have a good one...


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I understand exactly what you mean, but what's wrong with wanting excellent quality. In my opinion the creative side is harder to nail and takes more skill than having good gear. But having good gear is a must for many. I think that's what he's trying to say
 
I understand exactly what you mean, but what's wrong with wanting excellent quality. In my opinion the creative side is harder to nail and takes more skill than having good gear. But having good gear is a must for many. I think that's what he's trying to say

There's nothing wrong about wanting excellent quality, to the extent that you need it.

But for many, it seems that's what their photography is mainly about. And that plopping one's credit card down on the counter for a better body or lens is magically going to make one's photography better. The internet is full of photography forums where that's the culture; the seemingly endless quest for the best. And that's OK. But it's not for me.

I'd rather talk about almost anything other than that. Such as subject matter, projects, approaches, people, ethics, techniques, light, context, respected/favorite photographers, etc. For example, some respected photographers of mine are Daido Moriyama, Richard Avedon, Robert Frank, Manuel Alvarez Bravo, Mary Ellen Mark, Arnold Newman, Kikuji Kawada, Graciela Iturbide, Dorthea Lange, Diane Arbus, André Kertész, and many more. I could give two trucks on what kind of camera they used or how sharp their photos are (many aren't).

As an aside, if a viewer looks at one of my photographs hanging on the wall, and says something like, "Wow, your sharpness is amazing!" I would know my photograph has failed if that's what was communicated. Fortunately, that hasn't happened yet.
 
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There's nothing wrong about wanting excellent quality, to the extent that you need it.

But for many, it seems that's what their photography is about. And that plopping one's credit card down on the counter for a better body or lens is magically going to make one's photography better. The internet is full of photography forums where that's the culture; the seemingly endless quest for the best. And that's OK. But it's not for me.

I'd rather talk about almost anything other than that. Such as subject matter, projects, approaches, people, ethics, techniques, light, context, respected/favorite photographers, etc. For example, some respected photographers of mine are Daido Moriyama, Richard Avedon, Robert Frank, Manuel Alvarez Bravo, Mary Ellen Mark, Arnold Newman, Kikuji Kawada, Graciela Iturbide, Dorthea Lange, Diane Arbus, André Kertész, and many more. I could give two trucks on what kind of camera they used or how sharp their photos are (many aren't).

As an aside, if a viewer looks at one of my photographs hanging on the wall, and says something like, "Wow, your sharpness is amazing!" I would know my photograph has failed if that's what was communicated. Fortunately, that hasn't happened yet.

I totally get it. I think your last paragraph is hilarious too!!
 
First off I'm a 100% android user never owned an iPhone. And whilst I do love my Samsung phones which have great cameras I, have always looked at the photos my friends have shared which were taken on a iPhone and thought they produce excellent photos and with very little effort. Some fine examples in this thread bar the original post.

And whilst I agree with those that say it does not compete with a DSLR because well you can't beat good glass, the fact is most people don't print any more so if a phone takes a good enough photo it has done the job. Professionals and hobbyists will always use mirrorless or DSLR which is the tool of the trade but for everyone else the mobile is convenient, always with you and produces a good enough shot
 
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Thanks :) I'm finding this camera is grabbing images that are really gorgeous in nature settings, as well as indoor settings. Just back from dinner and wanted to test the shallow depth of field in low light capabilities. These are some of those images...

i find it amazing that in every photo thread people try to show off the picture quality by posting lots of close-ups...
 
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It's a great 8-bit color camera, but since it doesn't support 10-bit color capture, the best I can give it is a B+ grade.

BGR10A2 is the Holy Grail for capture, AND Apple is NOT quite there yet.

I fully expected them to include support for it with (at least) the X, if NOT the entire family of iPhones announced on Sept 12th.

So, Apple still has MAJOR work to do, to offer a Flagship-caliber camera !

What do you mean by not supporting? iOS 11 added support for this, or not? https://developer.apple.com/documentation/metal/mtlpixelformat/mtlpixelformatbgr10a2unorm
 
The worst picture is the Golfing one.
I mean, look at those tree edges... HAHAHA. Like painted with water color.
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yea it's way too over-processed. not sure what they try to cover up beneath.
but i presume there are 3rd party apps that can override this and give a raw image.
can someone PLEASE give it a try? very interesting.
I mean, this is indeed a bit too much. not that it's not nice.. for a painting.
 
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This is exactly what I was referring to in my post earlier in this thread. I have many pictures that look the same. My iPhone 6+ never was that bad. I suspect it was when Apple moved to the 12MP sensors. I thought many photos looked worse for a higher resolution sensor.
 
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while i get the its all about the photographer... and the i need 50MP for mega blowups - one of the reasons i use a DSLR or more recently a Mirrorless is autofocus speed. I have 4 kids 2 dogs and 2 cats. I like to take shots of them doing stuff. yes my iPhone 6+ will do shots sat around a table eating but it won't do - them cycling past me - skateboarding - abseiling - diving into a swimming pool - scoring a goal - that dance move where they look at the camera. I like 6-10fps with great autofocus tracking and enough features to stop the action.

now... can someone with a iPhoneX tell me about how good the subject tracking and autofocus is. I'm less bothered about exposure/sharpness (i want good but not perfect) can somebody post shots of some action? lets see if it can capture the ball going in the hoop or similar

now.. some might say use video with high frame rate.. its not the same for me - i like images. the burst function might help? its not great on the 6+ - will it track focus? or does it lock focus/exp?

the good cameras - can shoot 6-10fps with continuous eye af with low shutter lag and a decent buffer (at least in jpeg)- (I'm thinking of switching to Sony - I'm fuji at moment) and the keeper rate is impressive. how does the iPX compare?
 
Agree that these photos look great. But how good to cell phone cameras really need to be for the typical (or even advanced) user? Maybe Apple should focus on other areas of improvement for a while, although there does seem to be a "camera race" among manufacturers. I would prefer they race and compete on something else.

It's not like the camera is the only feature on this new iPhone model - what's your beef?
 
I dunno, iPhone cameras have been really good for a LONG time. I'd upgrade for the lens hardware and maybe low light performance, I only have a 6+, so the dual lenses in the 8+/X would be a great addition.. But old iPhones can already take nice photos in optimal conditions. They have done incredibly crisp fast exposures for ages.

eg this is from my 6+ .. I'm sure it could be sharper but it's not exactly bad for a 3.5yr approaching obsolete phone.
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What I'm getting at is some people can enjoy what they have rather than chase specs, and they should be happy with that. People still take incredible Polaroids. A lot of photographers still choose to shoot B&W. There was some incredible street photography someone posted in one of these threads taken on the iphone4 of all things. Creativity > Specs. (but specs do sometimes increase your creative options..)

I love my Nikons too, but stuff like surprise beach snaps are not so easy to capture unless you plan the trip around the cameras.. (and dont mind your lenses getting full of sand.. Argghh)

Not trying to be a downer. I'm really glad iPhone cameras are improving steadily and am happy people are enjoying them. Rarely do people go out and take the same photo on multiple devices, so there's a bit of placebo effect going on here though. :)
 
How does one do a long exposure? I just checked settings and there isn’t anything for a long exposure shot.
I can't believe nobody told you how to use Long Exposure on your new baby! :eek:

You need to have Live view turned on first. Take a shot. View it. Swipe up on the image from the centre area, then select from the various modes available from there. Long Exposure works really well on moving water, not so good on fire, where you end up with a blown-out mess. But the loop or Bounce may be interesting with fire.
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Shouldn't matter when taking normal photos. The wide angle lens is the same between 8+ and X
Yes, the wide-angle lens is the same, but apparently the sensors for the X are better (more refined) and the X has new algorithms for better contrast and colour outputs straight from camera.
 
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