iPhone X Clone 'Leagoo S9' Will Cost $150 and Include 'Face Access' Biometric Security Feature

[spetznatz]

It doesn’t say if it has an iOS skin... to be honest, some of these clones have done amazing jobs with their skins: I bought one when I was in China as a souvenir, and it’s remarkable how much they resemble the real thing (apart from the speed, of course...)

 

[sracer]

Strange. Others following Apple designs and implementation with ‘Face Access’? Amazing how Apple is ridiculed for the Notch and others follow later.

I don't find it amazing. Apple knows that they'll get ridiculed for any change they make. They also know that they can weather the storm. Once the storm dies down, people are more accepting.

Apple was ridiculed for the notch as they should be. But they spin it into something that is PREFERRED over bezels. They can get away with it because they have a reputation for being "innovative" and "courageous". It doesn't matter how impractical the change, the thinking goes, "well if Apple did it, then it must be good."

When Samsung tries something to be different, Apple fans brush it off as a gimmick. They were one of the first to dive into the phablet waters. Many here ridiculed that decision. Once Apple produced a phablet, suddenly many of those detractors became fans.

All that to say, fandom and tribalism is alive and well in the tech world. There's nothing amazing about that.

 

[filmantopia]

That notch is wider, taller, and has a horrible curvature.

Definitely a sub-par notch.

 

[Sweetcheetah]

But it's an Android which I do not use, don't like using, nor Windows, etc. I have all Apple products and very much deep into the eco system of it all and used to it, I'm very productive with it, everything just works, no worries. So, doesn't matter what the clone looks like or costs, if it runs on an android system, it's a COMPLETELY a deal breaker. I love the experience, and I just love the hardware software integration that I've lived with since the last 20 years of using Apple and I'm sticking to it till the end, either my life or Apple's.

 

[CarlJ]

Having a bezel on the bottom kind of defeats the purpose of the notch.

But how else could they possibly display their company name 24/7?

 

[timborama]

Strange. Others following Apple designs and implementation with ‘Face Access’? Amazing how Apple is ridiculed for the Notch and others follow later.

Not really. I wouldn’t even buy an real X for $150. No Touch ID, no buy.

 

[SoN1NjA]

How is the Notch a “Design flaw” if it successfully functions as intended in protecting one’s security?

Because it shouldn't be there. It's not natural to have a weird bar on the side of a video that cuts it off, and websites shouldn't have to be designed around a specific screen. Apple clearly doesn't like it considering they plan on reducing the notch.

 

[IJ Reilly]

The main difference between this phone and the iPhone X is the "face access" feature involves banging it on your forehead until it breaks.

 

[Superhai]

The notch is a necessity as there is no technology yet to remove it. You can of course stretch it out, but then there is more blank space instead.
What these copycats seem to think is that it is a feature, which it is not.

 

[44267547]

Because it shouldn't be there.

You can’t make the above statement statement:


And then make this statement listed below stating that “Apple doesn’t like it”. Unless your an Apple engineer, you can’t cite reasons why unless you understand the technological changes. It’s just you personally don’t agree with the Notch and its implementation. You’re conflating two different things.

Apple clearly doesn't like it considering they plan on reducing the notch.

[doublepost=1519671064][/doublepost]

Apple knows that they'll get ridiculed for any change they make. They also know that they can weather the storm. Once the storm dies down, people are more accepting.

It’s called you have choices, if you don’t like the nature of Apples design implementation, that’s the nature of how this company is . They make changes not everybody agrees with when it comes to the 30 pin connector being changed, deleted 3.5 mm Jack, the notch, etc.

Apple is not afraid to take the risk other companies won’t do and when they do, Apple is chastised for the decisions they make. Long term, other manufactures tend to follow their own footsteps. I give Apple credit for making the changes they do that no one else will in most cases, but it doesn’t make them any less successful of company because of what not everybody agrees with.

Also, I don’t necessarily believe more consumers are accepting once the hype dies down about something controversial with the deleted 3.5 mm Jack or the notch design , I think people simply move on because you can’t sit and complain forever about what one company did. Technology moves so fast, you either accept or move on to something that meets the consumers expectations.
[doublepost=1519671317][/doublepost]

He specifically said a design flaw not a functionality flaw. It is a design flaw because it contradicts Apple's own basic human interface design guide.

It’s not a design flaw. You think Apples engineers who Who are paid millions of dollars to design something failed at the concept of what it executes to do? I don’t Understand what’s difficult for others to accept that the notch exists because the technology is not a advanced far enough yet to reduce or eliminate it all together.

Not to mention, I’m not sure how you can specifically say it contradicts Apples own basic human interface design, when They don’t follow a specific pattern because they changed a physical feature based on a technological advancements for security purposes.

 

[djlythium]

Looking forward to the day we have worldwide copyright laws.

 

[Marekul]

You can’t make the above statement statement:


And then make this statement listed below stating that “Apple doesn’t like it”. Unless your an Apple engineer, you can’t cite reasons why unless you understand the technological changes. It’s just you personally don’t agree with the Notch and its implementation. You’re conflating two different things.


[doublepost=1519671064][/doublepost]

It’s called you have choices, if you don’t like the nature of Apples design implementation, that’s the nature of how this company is . They make changes not everybody agrees with when it comes to the 30 pin connector being changed, deleted 3.5 mm Jack, the notch, etc.

Apple is not afraid to take the risk other companies won’t do and when they do, Apple is chastised for the decisions they make. Long term, other manufactures tend to follow their own footsteps. I give Apple credit for making the changes they do that no one else will in most cases, but it doesn’t make them any less successful of company because of what not everybody agrees with.

Also, I don’t necessarily believe more consumers are accepting once the hype dies down about something controversial with the deleted 3.5 mm Jack or the notch design , I think people simply move on because you can’t sit and complain forever about what one company did. Technology moves so fast, you either accept or move on to something that meets the consumers expectations.
[doublepost=1519671317][/doublepost]

It’s not a design flaw. You think Apples engineers who Who are paid millions of dollars to design something failed at the concept of what it executes to do? I don’t Understand what’s difficult for others to accept that the notch exists because the technology is not a advanced far enough yet to reduce or eliminate it all together.

Not to mention, I’m not sure how you can specifically say it contradicts Apples own basic human interface design, when They don’t follow a specific pattern because they changed a physical feature based on a technological advancements for security purposes.

Lets‘s just say, from an engeneering point of view it is bad design. As worse as it can get bad. An from marketing perspective it is the best design.

 

[sonamo]

How is the Notch a “Design flaw” if it successfully functions as intended in protecting one’s security?

I think the point is: the screen didn't need to wrap around it like that. Of course you can disagree.

 

[44267547]

I think the point is: the screen didn't need to wrap around it like that. Of course you can disagree.

But you can’t say the notch can’t exist because it houses all the sensors, the microphone and camera. Unless you have a more feasible solution that would have Incorproated Face ID differently without making the necessary sacrifices, I’m sure Apple would be willing to listen to you.

 

[Kabeyun]

$150 vs $1000. That's why Apple makes billion$.

Of course, Apple had to, y’know, actually come up with the ideas, R&D the thing, make it out of high quality materials, support it with award-winning customer service, warrant it, and certify the apps that run on it. Besides just those tidbits and the price difference you astutely pointed out they’re exactly the same.

 

[Will.O.Bie]

Strange. Others following Apple designs and implementation with ‘Face Access’? Amazing how Apple is ridiculed for the Notch and others follow later.

It's all about the money. They look at Apple's earnings with the X and decide they want a piece of that pie. So, imitating a phone that almost everyone despises with the notch, yet Ligoogoo Note S9 is their counter to that, notch and all. If generates some revenue for them, why not? Try and try as they may only to fail as usual.

 

[shareef777]

I don't find it amazing. Apple knows that they'll get ridiculed for any change they make. They also know that they can weather the storm. Once the storm dies down, people are more accepting.

Apple was ridiculed for the notch as they should be. But they spin it into something that is PREFERRED over bezels. They can get away with it because they have a reputation for being "innovative" and "courageous". It doesn't matter how impractical the change, the thinking goes, "well if Apple did it, then it must be good."

When Samsung tries something to be different, Apple fans brush it off as a gimmick. They were one of the first to dive into the phablet waters. Many here ridiculed that decision. Once Apple produced a phablet, suddenly many of those detractors became fans.

All that to say, fandom and tribalism is alive and well in the tech world. There's nothing amazing about that.

No need to look any further then these forums. But yeah, a phone for $150. I wouldn't expect much out of it. Seems to be a device geared toward those that only care to appear as if they owned the latest and greatest.

 

[SoN1NjA]

You can’t make the above statement statement:


And then make this statement listed below stating that “Apple doesn’t like it”. Unless your an Apple engineer, you can’t cite reasons why unless you understand the technological changes. It’s just you personally don’t agree with the Notch and its implementation. You’re conflating two different things.


[doublepost=1519671064][/doublepost]

It’s called you have choices, if you don’t like the nature of Apples design implementation, that’s the nature of how this company is . They make changes not everybody agrees with when it comes to the 30 pin connector being changed, deleted 3.5 mm Jack, the notch, etc.

Apple is not afraid to take the risk other companies won’t do and when they do, Apple is chastised for the decisions they make. Long term, other manufactures tend to follow their own footsteps. I give Apple credit for making the changes they do that no one else will in most cases, but it doesn’t make them any less successful of company because of what not everybody agrees with.

Also, I don’t necessarily believe more consumers are accepting once the hype dies down about something controversial with the deleted 3.5 mm Jack or the notch design , I think people simply move on because you can’t sit and complain forever about what one company did. Technology moves so fast, you either accept or move on to something that meets the consumers expectations.
[doublepost=1519671317][/doublepost]

It’s not a design flaw. You think Apples engineers who Who are paid millions of dollars to design something failed at the concept of what it executes to do? I don’t Understand what’s difficult for others to accept that the notch exists because the technology is not a advanced far enough yet to reduce or eliminate it all together.

Not to mention, I’m not sure how you can specifically say it contradicts Apples own basic human interface design, when They don’t follow a specific pattern because they changed a physical feature based on a technological advancements for security purposes.

It's not a choice made because they had the option to, it's a choice made because they had no other option

 

[mazz0]

Hahahaha! They’ve really captured the look there haven’t they! I particularly like having the notch but also having that bottom bezel with the company’s name written on in a tacky font!

 

[44267547]

it's a choice made because they had no other option

Exactly. Which is called technological advancements to further refine the hardware and ultimately implement a different solution until the Notch can be changed or altered. Thats the nature and evolution of technology as a whole, not just the notch.

 

[csurfr]

Leá Goo - Maybe it's French for "Not Good"

 

[NT1440]

Because it shouldn't be there. It's not natural to have a weird bar on the side of a video that cuts it off, and websites shouldn't have to be designed around a specific screen. Apple clearly doesn't like it considering they plan on reducing the notch.

If your playing a video in full screen (the only time the notch would cut in) YOURE ALREADY CUTTING OFF PARTS OF THE VIDEO BY BEING THAT ZOOMED IN.

 

[caoimhin]

Because it shouldn't be there. It's not natural to have a weird bar on the side of a video that cuts it off, and websites shouldn't have to be designed around a specific screen. Apple clearly doesn't like it considering they plan on reducing the notch.

Doesn’t bother me one bit. I don’t notice it. And for the few times I watch video in landscape mode, I quickly forget about it.

So, it may irk your tastes, but it doesn’t inhibit the utility of the device in any meaningful way.

 

[AdamJD]

He specifically said a design flaw not a functionality flaw. It is a design flaw because it contradicts Apple's own basic human interface design guide. Having a notch cut out of a full frame picture or video? That would have been simply unacceptable in Apple's (former) design style book, and should be unacceptable in Apple's style book now.

Not to mention the rounded corners that cut off part of the image as well. I still can't justify the features and cost when they come comes with a loss of practicality and good design. In the past, if it couldn't be done right, Apple would wait until it could.

 

[caoimhin]

Lets‘s just say, from an engeneering point of view it is bad design. As worse as it can get bad. An from marketing perspective it is the best design.

From an engineering point of view, it’s a very pragmatic solution. You may not like the looks of it, but it’s a functional design characteristic of the device that was deemed (by people, I reckon, smarter than you or me) to be the optimal way of fitting those sensors on a display with a small bezel. As far as engineering goes, it’s exactly what I expect. Maybe an industrial designer would have something different to say, but it’s functional. It hasn’t disrupted my enjoyment of the device one bit.