Iphone X Fast Charging 29W vs 12w Ipad Charger

macmaninnj07652

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I Just purchased my iPhone X and was wondering what kind of experiences people have had with the USB C 29 watt charger vs the standard 5 watt and the Ipad 12 Watt chargers time wise, I am not really in a hurry to charge the phone but once in a while, I am more concerned that it may damage the battery longterm. Let me know what experiences you have had with both the 12W and the 25 W, I know from reading the 5 is a crawl as is the wireless even at 7.5. Just how much of a charge you get in say 60 min and then after 90 min

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TrueBlou

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First of all, don’t worry about damage, they’re designed to be fast charged.
As for speed the best bang for buck is probably the 12w for most people.

You’ll get a 10-20 minute speed advantage with the 29w adapter but if you don’t already have one, is it really worth the extra expense? And that’s from someone with the 5W, 12W, 29W and 87W adapters.

Honestly I’m just using wireless all of the time now (7.5W.) I charge my phone overnight when I’m sleeping and it gets plonked onto another wireless charger when I’m at my desk if the battery is needing a top-up.

But if you often find yourself in need of a faster charge, go with the 12W if you have it.
If you have the money burning a hole in your pocket, get the 29W. It’s a decent bit faster, especially going from 0-50%.
 

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plenty of articles and topics on this but i wouldn't splurge at buying the separate cable/brick combo for the "fast charge" gimmick. if you have an iPad 12w brick, use it and be done with it. it will charge it a lot faster than the 5w the iPhones come with (IMO should be eliminated completely).

if you don't have the iPad brick, i'll recommend the Anker Elite Dual Port 24W (https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-PowerPort-PowerIQ-Foldable/dp/B071YMZ4LD/ref=sr_1_5?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1512840822&sr=1-5&keywords=anker+usb) for $10.99 shipped (with prime). charges faster and has 2 ports for cheaper than buying the iPad brick (if you don't have the iPad brick).
 
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plenty of articles and topics on this but i wouldn't splurge at buying the separate cable/brick combo for the "fast charge" gimmick. if you have an iPad 12w brick, use it and be done with it. it will charge it a lot faster than the 5w the iPhones come with (IMO should be eliminated completely).

if you don't have the iPad brick, i'll recommend the Anker Elite Dual Port 24W (https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-PowerPort-PowerIQ-Foldable/dp/B071YMZ4LD/ref=sr_1_5?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1512840822&sr=1-5&keywords=anker+usb) for $10.99 shipped (with prime). charges faster and has 2 ports for cheaper than buying the iPad brick (if you don't have the iPad brick).

I’ll second that, Anker chargers are pretty damn good. I’ve got a four port 40W one and it powers everything I need it to at a good speed.
 

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I agree ☝ with all post above. I bought the 12W adapter from walmart for $19. There is small difference between charging speeds between the 12W and 29W. I still use my 5W near my bed for overnight charging (What’s the rush when while sleep). I personally use my 12w in my office since I spend most of my time there and most use of my phone. Placing it on the charge for 15 - 30 minutes makes big difference the first week using the 5W. Go 12W for the cost savings.
 

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Considering you can get a fast charge cable as well as an adapter for around $30 on amazon, it may be worth having a fast charger around for those emergency times you need it.

For me the iPhone X gets me through the day usually without a problem. So my current uses have been to use my iPhone X throughout the day, wireless charge over night, and if I am need of some quick charge to get me through the rest of the day I’ll use my fast charger to give me 50% in 30 mins which will usually get me through the rest of the day. Battery life has been great for me on the iPhone X running iOS 11.2.
 
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For most, the iPad charger will be the best bang for the buck. The charger is only a portion of the consideration. At $35 for a 2m USB-C cable vs. $10 for a standard 2m lightning cable, it’s a worthy contender.
 

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For most, the iPad charger will be the best bang for the buck. The charger is only a portion of the consideration. At $35 for a 2m USB-C cable vs. $10 for a standard 2m lightning cable, it’s a worthy contender.
I don’t know how much the iPad charger w/ cable costs but you can pick up 2 lightning cables capable of fast charging for $10 and a ugreen 29w adapter with pd for $16. Total = $26 for a fast charging setup. Forget apple’s rip off $75 setup for fast charging.

USB-C to Lightning Cable, VIPFAN 3ft USB 3.0 Type C to lightning charging & sync cab... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076X3RGSX/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_nTnlAbSPNAZ5R

UGREEN USB Type-C 30W Wall Charger With Power Delivery for iPhone 8/X/8 plus,Samsung Galaxy S8/S8 Plus,Macbook, Nexus 6P/5X,Nintendo Switch,Lumia 950 XL,Google Pixel 2 XL,OnePlus 2,Go Pro hero 5 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GFE90H8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ZVnlAb4V3CH7H
 

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I don’t know how much the iPad charger w/ cable costs but you can pick up 2 lightning cables capable of fast charging for $10 and a ugreen 29w adapter with pd for $16. Total = $26 for a fast charging setup. Forget apple’s rip off $75 setup for fast charging.

USB-C to Lightning Cable, VIPFAN 3ft USB 3.0 Type C to lightning charging & sync cab... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076X3RGSX/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_nTnlAbSPNAZ5R

UGREEN USB Type-C 30W Wall Charger With Power Delivery for iPhone 8/X/8 plus,Samsung Galaxy S8/S8 Plus,Macbook, Nexus 6P/5X,Nintendo Switch,Lumia 950 XL,Google Pixel 2 XL,OnePlus 2,Go Pro hero 5 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GFE90H8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_ZVnlAb4V3CH7H
Go read up a bit more on this USB-C to Lightning wired fast charging for iPhone.
You need a MFI cable that supports PD (Power Delivery) to fast charge and at the moment only the expensive Apple brand cable supports it. All other third-party USB-C to Lightning cables cannot provide true fast charging.
 

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As far as I know only Apple’s USB-C to Lightning cable supports fast charging.
Apple has confirmed that third-party devices, well I should say power supplies, which adhere to the USB-PD spec will also work. Here’s the support document if you want a read. So I’d expect 3rd party cables to show up.
 
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Probably, but for now only Apple brand USB-C to Lightning cable support true fast charging.

If anyone want to buy that VIPFAN brand cable from Amazon as suggested by Meltdownbiltz to try fast charging, go ahead, at your own risk of causing your iPhone X to meltdown (pun intended).
I’ve tested a few of the third party cables for friends with my meter. There’s been some, it’ll shock no-one to hear, the cheapest of the cheap that I wouldn’t use to tie a bin bag, let alone plug into my phone.

On the other hand, some you could almost tell before plugging them in, just from the sheer quality of construction. That I would happily use myself.

Electrically they test out perfectly fine and they’ve had strong, durable (more so than my Apple ones) construction. But, for now you are looking at about a 60% deficit in the charging stakes, sometimes as much as 80% in the ones I’ve had my hands on.

So no, for now nothing’s as quick as an Apple cable. Power supplies, suit yourself, there’s plenty to choose from. Just don’t be like me and spend well over £200 on Apple chargers and cables to then end up going wireless :D
 
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I’ve tested a few of the third party cables for friends with my meter. There’s been some, it’ll shock no-one to hear, the cheapest of the cheap that I wouldn’t use to tie a bin bag, let alone plug into my phone.

On the other hand, some you could almost tell before plugging them in, just from the sheer quality of construction. That I would happily use myself.

Electrically they test out perfectly fine and they’ve had strong, durable (more so than my Apple ones) construction. But, for now you are looking at about a 60% deficit in the charging stakes, sometimes as much as 80% in the ones I’ve had my hands on.

So no, for now nothing’s as quick as an Apple cable. Power supplies, suit yourself, there’s plenty to choose from. Just don’t be like me and spend well over £200 on Apple chargers and cables to then end up going wireless
So which cables did you try? There’s only about 3 brands on amazon that I could find. I also have the Metrans cable with usb pd, seems to work really well so far. Goes for about $13. Looks safe and promising, guess time will tell.

What do you guys think of it?

Fast Charging USB C to Lightning Cable, Metrans 3FT/1M USB Type C to Lightning Cable for iPhone X iPhone 8/8Plus Connect to Macbook https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0769RSL5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MmIlAbVR3AQ

Also what meter are you guys using to test your cables?
 
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RavPower sells their 24W Type C charger for like 14 bucks, wonder if that will fast charge using the Apple Type C to Lightning cable. Probably not since it’s not PD specs.
 
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So which cables did you try? There’s only about 3 brands on amazon that I could find. I also have the Metrans cable with usb pd, seems to work really well so far. Goes for about $13. Looks safe and promising, guess time will tell.

What do you guys think of it?

Fast Charging USB C to Lightning Cable, Metrans 3FT/1M USB Type C to Lightning Cable for iPhone X iPhone 8/8Plus Connect to Macbook https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0769RSL5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_MmIlAbVR3AQ

Also what meter are you guys using to test your cables?
It’s been a while so I can’t remember them all. Two that stick in my head as being less than great were (I think) j2cc or something close to that and fanisy, because I’m a big child and the name makes me chuckle.

ESR surprisingly checked out ok, can’t speak for the durability I don’t use them myself. All of my cables are genuine Apple, simply because so far, nothing charges as fast as the Apple cable.

Can’t speak for the Metrans, but I’d be surprised beyond belief if it was as fast as the Apple cable. But like I say, I’ve not tried it and I suppose somebody has to be first making them. Though from what I’ve read on Amazon, this isn’t.
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RavPower sells their 24W Type C charger for like 14 bucks, wonder if that will fast charge using the Apple Type C to Lightning cable
So long as it conforms to the USB-PD spec and you’re using a genuine Apple cable, it will. I’d have no reason to doubt Ravpower’s claims. I’ve bought a few of their products and they’re always good.

Ive actually just bought another Ravpower 4 port 40W charger, albeit not a PD one to charge things like my AirPods, Beats and Apple Pencil. Never had a problem with their gear. I’ve got loads of their battery packs too.
 

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It’s been a while so I can’t remember them all. Two that stick in my head as being less than great were (I think) j2cc or something close to that and fanisy, because I’m a big child and the name makes me chuckle.

ESR surprisingly checked out ok, can’t speak for the durability I don’t use them myself. All of my cables are genuine Apple, simply because so far, nothing charges as fast as the Apple cable.

Can’t speak for the Metrans, but I’d be surprised beyond belief if it was as fast as the Apple cable. But like I say, I’ve not tried it and I suppose somebody has to be first making them. Though from what I’ve read on Amazon, this isn’t.
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So long as it conforms to the USB-PD spec and you’re using a genuine Apple cable, it will. I’d have no reason to doubt Ravpower’s claims. I’ve bought a few of their products and they’re always good.

Ive actually just bought another Ravpower 4 port 40W charger, albeit not a PD one to charge things like my AirPods, Beats and Apple Pencil. Never had a problem with their gear. I’ve got loads of their battery packs too.
The metrans cable has a few safety specs that they state on the amazon page. I tested this cable and the quality is surprisingly good. As far as the charging speeds, it actually matches the Apple cable at 50% battery in 30 mins! I did my test from 0% using the ugreen 29w adapter that I posted above. My phone didn’t melt or blow up, also didn’t get too warm, just normal charging temps. I would say this might be one of the first cables comparable to the genuine Apple usb c to lightning cable. Looking to get an Apple cable to compare them. I’d say if your interested, pick up a metrans cable and let me know what you think and how it compares.
 
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