iPhone X OLED burn in - who is concerned?

[ET iPhone Home]

I can only speak to my own experience with Plasma TVs but both that I’ve owned have had image retention but not burnin.

The first TV I had from 2005 until 2009. The other from 2008 until now. I play a lot of video games with HUDs that are static, used to play for 8 -12 hours straight when I didn’t have a family. On the old model, that would cause image retention but I would white out the screen with a sleep timer for 30min when going to bed. Cleared out the image retention.

On my current TV, it rarely shows image retention because it does the pixel orbiter like the iPhone X all the time. Moving the picture slightly by a pixel in another direction. Once in a while there is a slight image retention but watching any video will clear it out.

Neither TV ever had burn in. I have seen it on static screen monitors used for business dashboards that displayed the same image for days. I don’t see that as being normal use though, days of the same image.

I’m sad people gave up on plasma TVs due to misinformation about them. They have had the best picture of any TV I’ve ever owned. I’ll probably go with an OLED when my current one burns out if I can’t find a used plasma in good condition.

When I bought it they said the display brightness cuts in half after about 10 years but mine is still bright as hell when I turn on game mode. Hopefully I’ll get another 9+ years from it. I only sold my old one to upgrade in size.

Hey thanks for your reply. Also, with Plasma, it was high energy consumption, which is why LCD came to the picture. Nevertheless, I'm hoping to still get my hands on a Sim-Free X. I have a work trip to Portland, Oregon on Dec. 22nd. to help save on tax. I'm hoping the Sim-Free will be out by then.

 

[eoblaed]

I love the X so far, but my one major concern is burn in. I wasn’t worried before as it seemed like Apple had a good handle on burn in prevention and you don’t tend to hear about S8/Note 8 burn in issues.

With Apple saying some burn in issues are “normal” (which seems to mean that AppleCare won’t cover burn in) with the new OLED screen, I’m getting concerned. I watch a lot of video at high brightness and I’m hesitant to now, especially TV episodes that have the network logo on the corner of the screen the whole time.

Otherwise I love the phone, but I’m wondering if burn in risk means I should consider sticking with my 7 Plus.

Not concerned at all. I've had my X for 2 weeks today. Zero burn in so far and only 50 weeks (or less) to go until it gets upgraded. Loving it so far!

 

[D.T.]

Also, with Plasma, it was high energy consumption, which is why LCD came to the picture.

It was mostly because of price and LCD based tech being so ubiquitous (phones, laptops, car audio/nav, etc.), but just an an FYI, the difference in costs over a year on a plasma vs. an LCD (LED lit) TV of the same size is about $35-40.

 

[legioxi]

Hey thanks for your reply. Also, with Plasma, it was high energy consumption, which is why LCD came to the picture. Nevertheless, I'm hoping to still get my hands on a Sim-Free X. I have a work trip to Portland, Oregon on Dec. 22nd. to help save on tax. I'm hoping the Sim-Free will be out by then.

Just watch out for cheap LCDs, I have a cheapo TV from Walmart, 42", for our basement rec room and it pulls more power than my 55" plasma. I assume that isn't the norm since my Dell 34" LCD monitor barely registers on my power meter.

 

[Gryzor]

I love the X so far, but my one major concern is burn in. I wasn’t worried before as it seemed like Apple had a good handle on burn in prevention and you don’t tend to hear about S8/Note 8 burn in issues.

You won't tend to hear about burn-in on the X either. It's they scaremongers and android fan boys spreading FUD mainly.

For a start, to get burn-in means you need a to stay static on a given screen for a very, very long time. On a smartphone - highly unlikely. Even then, chances are you'll just observe mild image retention which is normal on any display, but yes slightly more so on an emissive one like OLED. Any image retention will disappear very quickly with normal use. It's pretty safe to say though, that you'll encounter neither.

You hear the same crap spread about OLED TVs. I've got two of them, one SONY and one LG. I watch movies on the SONY and game on the LG, and neither have experienced anything of the sort, even after long pauses. I doubt my X will either.

 

[DesertSilver]

You won't tend to hear about burn-in on the X either. It's they scaremongers and android fan boys spreading FUD mainly.

For a start, to get burn-in means you need a to stay static on a given screen for a very, very long time. On a smartphone - highly unlikely. Even then, chances are you'll just observe mild image retention which is normal on any display, but yes slightly more so on an emissive one like OLED. Any image retention will disappear very quickly with normal use. It's pretty safe to say though, that you'll encounter neither.

You hear the same crap spread about OLED TVs. I've got two of them, one SONY and one LG. I watch movies on the SONY and game on the LG, and neither have experienced anything of the sort, even after long pauses. I doubt my X will either.

Would you be at all concerned if you were to take, let's say, a 14 hour road trip from Portland to San Francisco and leave the X with the screen on with Google Maps the entire time? Honest question.

I know we have the option to turn the screen off and still have navigation running but with previous iPhones there would be no concern with leaving the screen on the entire time.

 

[OneMike]

I'm not worried about it. It's not a problem, yet and I'm not going to stress about hypotheticals.

If it does become a problem, it will have to be addressed.

 

[iJustiney]

Would you be at all concerned if you were to take, let's say, a 14 hour road trip from Portland to San Francisco and leave the X with the screen on with Google Maps the entire time? Honest question.

I know we have the option to turn the screen off and still have navigation running but with previous iPhones there would be no concern with leaving the screen on the entire time.

Why would you need the screen on with google maps the entire time from SF to PD? The drive is I-5 the whole way.

 

[DesertSilver]

Why would you need the screen on with google maps the entire time from SF to PD? The drive is I-5 the whole way.

My point is not that I NEED it on the entire time, but with an LCD there is zero concern with leaving it on for that long, no matter what's on the screen. I guess Lyft/Uber/taxi drivers should stay away from the X and any future OLED phones.

 

[redman042]

My point is not that I NEED it on the entire time, but with an LCD there is zero concern with leaving it on for that long, no matter what's on the screen. I guess Lyft/Uber/taxi drivers should stay away from the X and any future OLED phones.

Like you, I'm very happy to have an OLED display in my new iPhone. It has many advantages over even the best LCDs. But, unfortunately, the nagging worry of burn-in sticks with me too. I've found myself sleeping the iPhone display while navigating because of that concern. With LCD, I left it on whenever without a second thought. Thankfully Apple Maps functions really well on the lock screen, but to have to sleep the phone is still a compromise.

It would be nice if we had better info from Apple on exactly what conditions would result in burn-in, so we could make more informed decisions. We don't know what software measures they have taken to mitigate it. We don't really know if Uber drivers should worry. Maybe there's some drivers out there who have used Samsung devices for a year or more that could comment on whether they've seen burn-in on Samsung OLED displays. Not the same as Apple's implementation, but close enough to be a data point.

 

[maka344]

I don’t care because it will go back to Apple regardless of what they say. If they won’t cover the screen for burn in, they’ll cover the device for randomly restarting, simple as.

It’s a non-issue.

 

[CreatorOfWorlds]

I personally find it quite rude when people on a forum board tell other people to get a life. But that is just me.

I find that I don’t care lol

 

[GBlansten]

OLED burn in is what you worry about when you are deeply and unfathomably fortunate enough to not have any real problems. Honestly that’s not a bad place to be in life.

 

[ET iPhone Home]

Just watch out for cheap LCDs, I have a cheapo TV from Walmart, 42", for our basement rec room and it pulls more power than my 55" plasma. I assume that isn't the norm since my Dell 34" LCD monitor barely registers on my power meter.

Well, I'm seeing these new Samsung QLED being advertised on TV. I'm ready to upgrade my LCD to something better and bigger so I have to do my research QLED's and these Curved Panels. Thanks.

 

[44267547]

Well, I'm seeing these new Samsung QLED being advertised on TV. I'm ready to upgrade my LCD to something better and bigger so I have to do my research QLED's and these Curved Panels. Thanks.

QLED is nice. It Used to be called 'Quantum Dot', but they changed their marketing term to try to compete with OLED. But the Quantum Dot/QLED are the same TV, it's Samsungs higher 4K/HDR TV sets. I have one and they are very nice. Personally don't care for the whole curved experience. Partially because, you have to be sitting rather close to fully be immersed and take a advantage of the curved display.

 

[ET iPhone Home]

QLED is nice. It Used to be called 'Quantum Dot', but they changed their marketing term to try to compete with OLED. But the Quantum Dot/QLED are the same TV, it's Samsung is higher 4K/HDR TV sets. I have one and they are very nice. Personally don't care for the whole curved experience. Partially because, you have to be sitting rather close to fully be immersed and take a advantage of the curved display.

Hey Thanks! I'm going to look into it - QLED. Thanks for the recommendation.