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Why is nobody testing the most important scenario? When you just wake up and need to quickly use your phone in the dark while in bed.
 
How do you know what the intent was? I have a finger registered on my moms phone so I can easily access it. Since I’m the one setting the phone up for her I need a way to get into it. It’s not like I’m telling strangers on the street to add a fingerprint.

How do I know? Because you also get a choice of phone unlock password or pin and you can only set one and not 2 ( one for you and one for another) It’s fine and tandy sharing a mobile device with someone but mobile phones in general are meant to be personal. Everyone I know have 1. Sure a family member can answer calls and view stuff occasionally but I personally don’t get the need of my family member to have frequent access to my phone when they can use theirs, that happen to be similar to mine.
 
Why though? Not different than putting your finger on the home button
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Verge are just looking for attention..no credibility at all

It's 2 actions, raising the phone (or positioning face) to unlock with face ID then swiping. Versus a single action with touch ID. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's the end of the world, but I can just predict it becoming extremely annoying. Yeah I'm that guy that is constantly unlocking his phone during the day. I'm already going to be annoyed that I can't turn my phone on reliably when it's sitting on my desk, in my car holder, or in my charger on my nightstand now that I have to get my face in front of it. If I'm forced to use face ID I prefer how Android phones handle it where it automatically opens up the phone, at least Apple could have given us a toggle to choose how it works.
 



Apple has lifted its embargo for iPhone X reviews today, but many of the articles and videos are more like early impressions, given that it provided many media outlets with less than 24 hours of lead time with the device.

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iPhone X via The Verge

We've rounded up some notable excerpts from iPhone X reviews below. The general consensus is that the smartphone has a gorgeous design and that Face ID works well. However, the smartphone definitely isn't for everyone, and using an iPhone without a Home button seemingly takes some time before feeling natural.

The Verge's Nilay Patel said Face ID "mostly works great," but he noted authentication was inconsistent in certain lighting conditions.Patel added that apps that haven't been updated for the iPhone X's display have "ugly" black borders along the top and bottom.Wired's David Pierce took the iPhone X for a test drive while bouncing on a trampoline in the video below.


TechCrunch's Matthew Panzarino took his iPhone X to Disneyland in California to test the device in a real-world scenario.

Panzarino also noted that Face ID "works really well" and was "incredibly easy to set up."Panzarino shared some photos shot with iPhone X. In good lighting conditions, he said there is almost zero difference between the cameras on the iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone X, given the devices have the same sensors and image signal processors.

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Shot on iPhone X by Matthew Panzarino via TechCrunch

Panzarino said he hasn't seen any screen burn-in on the iPhone X yet, a problem Google's new Pixel 2 XL has faced, but he hasn't been using the device long enough to say it's "burn-in proof" with confidence.

The Washington Post's Geoffrey A. Fowler said Face ID worked "nine times out of 10" in his initial testing, but not with a fake beard.CNET's Scott Stein said it takes time to get used to the iPhone X's new gestures and button combinations for returning to the Home screen, multitasking, and invoking Siri and Apple Pay.Since many reviewers were provided with less than 24 hours of time with the iPhone X before Apple lifted its publishing embargo, we'll have to wait for a truly in-depth look at performance, cameras, and other features.

We've rounded up a list of many other iPhone X reviews, first impressions, and videos, and we'll be sharing more tidbits throughout the day.

Article Link: iPhone X Review Roundup: Face ID Works Well as Life Without Home Button Takes Getting Used To
I don't think Gruber got a review unit and he seems a little pissy about it by making snide remarks about others getting them. If true, good---he's an arrogant little a$$.
 
It's 2 actions, raising the phone (or positioning face) to unlock with face ID then swiping. Versus a single action with touch ID. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's the end of the world, but I can just predict it becoming extremely annoying. Yeah I'm that guy that is constantly unlocking his phone during the day. I'm already going to be annoyed that I can't turn my phone on reliably when it's sitting on my desk, in my car holder, or in my charger on my nightstand now that I have to get my face in front of it. If I'm forced to use face ID I prefer how Android phones handle it where it automatically opens up the phone, at least Apple could have given us a toggle to choose how it works.

Actually Touch ID (at least on my 6 plus) also requires 2 actions - but with less movement:

1. Press home button with finger/thumb

2. Hold finger/thumb over home button

So they are both 2 actions. Also, faceID does NOT require raising phone to face (see gif in this thread). Also if you turn off the attention feature, you don't even have to look at it. So I think your thinking more annoyance than reality.
 
It's 2 actions, raising the phone (or positioning face) to unlock with face ID then swiping. Versus a single action with touch ID.

This is ApplePay all over again. People nitpicking to the smallest thing to put down a technology they haven't even used. "But ApplePay, you have to pull out your phone, then put near the terminal, rest your finger on TouchID, wait for TouchID, ... I'm losing my previous half a second and it's so inconvenient to have to do that extra step".
 

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Why are the reviewers always people who seem to have no idea how to use the phone? I don't consider that to be a good review. I prefer people who already know how its supposed to work, so they don't waste review commentary on things that are the result of them figuring out how it works....or worse...drawing conclusions and still not knowing how it works.

you don't think customers should be warned the UI is a mess? A phone shouldn't requore people to "know" how to use it.
 
It sounds like the lack of home button is a bigger issue than FaceID.

Edge gestures from the top/bottom are not convenient or comfortable. If I’m walking, holding the phone in one hand, it’s going to take some extreme bravery to reach down to the very bottom for the home “bar”.

I was already inclined to skip this phone, and now I’m absolutely sure that I don’t want one. Cool. On with my day...

Specifically it’s the lack of a bottom bezel that makes it more difficult to reach the bottom of the screen (whether there’s a home button on it or not).

Bezels are useful, people seem to not realize or care. The top bezel houses the camera, sensors, and earpiece/speaker. The bottom bezel elevates the screen from the comfortable palm position so that it’s easier to reach the bottom with your thumb, and it can optionally house a touch id/home button and a front-facing speaker (if Apple were so inclined). Either the top or bottom bezel allows you to more easily grip the phone in landscape. Even the tiny side bezels help prevent accidental touches of the palm when reaching across with your thumb, not to mention protective cases need something to overlap. They’re all functional. (The top bezel could have stood to be slimmer in past iphones but I understand Apple wants symmetry.) And palm/accidental touch rejection isn’t 100% reliable like a bezel, and it doesn’t help with your fingers covering the screen.

As I see it, getting rid of bezels ultimately puts form over function.
 
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What the hell is Apple doing?

- No home button
- No touch ID
- No 3.5mm headphone jack
- Stupid notch

iPhone X looks horrible. It's not even "bezel-less."

There are currently no bezeless phones out there. I would say the iPhone X is closer than most
 
Ugly software bezels... LOL. I'm dying. We cannot comment on Android's fragmentation issues ever again.

Sadly I have to agree with this comment. Apple is now dealing with 4 screen sizes, different aspect ratios, and one notch. I am willing to bet the notch will be gone in the next model. Developers are going to be dealing with this catastrophe for years because of one model.
 
You are forgetting one thing -- faceID is also more secure. Drops mic.
LOL. Was TouchID not secure enough for you? Are you a secret agent? No one was asking for some 1:1,000,000 level of security and TouchID is perfectly secure enough for the average user.

Why is nobody testing the most important scenario? When you just wake up and need to quickly use your phone in the dark while in bed.
This is actually one scenario where I can think FaceID has an advantage over TouchID in that you don't need to try and find the home button in the dark, just bring the phone up to your face. FaceID works better in the dark.
 
If you can see 458ppi fuzziness than you have superman vision.
What are you 5mm away from the screen?
It doesn't take super vision. I can easily see fuzziness on the Galaxy S5, which was 432ppi with its 1920x1080 display, the fuzzy text was very apparent. It took 577ppi at 2560x1440 from the S6 and S7 to not see the fuzziness, which are also pentile displays. The S8/S8+/Note 8 are no longer pentile.
 
Couple of points.
If you go to John Grubers Daring Fireball it's pretty obvious he is upset that HE didn't get an early iPhone X to review LOL
Secondly, does one HAVE to use Face ID to open the phone? If so that means there is no way my wife could use my phone in an emergency assuming my face isn't able to unlock the phone? Or for that matter even for regular use if she needed to borrow my iPhone?

You didn't got it, you need to buy another one for your wife ;)
 
Sorry I didn't get more than 10 seconds into the video with the guy who calls it iPhone Ex, and mentions "this crazy notch thingy".

Good choices Apple. Real class acts here.

I call it the "ex" & most others do too. "10" my ass, the iPhone numbering was for each all new generation. This time they call what's really the 7s the 8 & what should've been 8, 10. Yeah yeah the 10th anniversary, yet they claimed the X being ready for the anniversary was a "coincidence" so.. Of course what will the next models be called? Will there be a 9 that's newer than the 10 what the hell? Apple is better off letting the public brand the X "ex" like it already has.
 
Lol. Literally exactly what you should never do is not a 'non-starter'. iPhones are not shared devices. And certainly not shared so often that you would need to get in with Face ID.

LOL. Some people.

You aren't married, eh? And definitely no kids?

Yeah....
 
My take on the reviewers statements was that some of the gestures are different and take some relearning to forget the old gestures and learn the new ones.

The problem here is if you have an iPad. You need to change the way you use each device. There is clearly a fragmentation in the way you use iOS. The natural move would be to make an iPad X but I suspect that the gestures would be even more difficult to do.
 
It doesn't take super vision. I can easily see fuzziness on the Galaxy S5, which was 432ppi with its 1920x1080 display, the fuzzy text was very apparent. It took 577ppi at 2560x1440 from the S6 and S7 to not see the fuzziness, which are also pentile displays. The S8/S8+/Note 8 are no longer pentile.
The S8/Note8 displays are still technically pentile, it's just a different (and better) arrangement from earlier pentile displays called Diamond. The X screen is using the same arrangement. The S7/Note7 used the Diamond arrangement as well (they've been doing this for awhile, since the S4 I think?). The key is really getting a high enough PPI to counter-balance the lower sub-pixel count.

http://www.displaymate.com/Diamond_39.html
http://displaymate.com/Galaxy_S8_ShootOut_01.htm
http://displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note8_ShootOut_100.htm
 
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Actually Touch ID (at least on my 6 plus) also requires 2 actions - but with less movement:

1. Press home button with finger/thumb

2. Hold finger/thumb over home button

So they are both 2 actions. Also, faceID does NOT require raising phone to face (see gif in this thread). Also if you turn off the attention feature, you don't even have to look at it. So I think your thinking more annoyance than reality.

You can adjust the setting for TouchID in accessibility that allows you to not even have to rest the finger after pushing the button, the one single button push becomes the unlock and snap to home screen.
 
So far it basically sounds like FaceID isn't as fast or consistent as the current gen of TouchID? That's... not particularly encouraging. Though maybe things improve as it learns your face more.
Watch the videos. It unlocks super fast. That whole swiping up is just to enter the phone. It’ll let you see notifications and you have the option to open the phone.
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OLED burn in has always been an issue.

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Speed doesn't seem too bad on Face ID.
IPhone X first wakes up the phone then it unlocks it at the same time as Touch ID. It just looks slower because he swiped up to enter the phone and the graphics are jumpy.
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well I love Touch ID, I was concerned about FaceID not being as good and now I am even more concerned. Luckily I just bought a 6S because the X was too expensive anyway and I still wanted a headphone jack
Lol
 
Sadly I have to agree with this comment. Apple is now dealing with 4 screen sizes, different aspect ratios, and one notch. I am willing to bet the notch will be gone in the next model. Developers are going to be dealing with this catastrophe for years because of one model.

Or just skip this and don't update their apps.
 
The S8/Note8 displays are still technically pentile, it's just a different (and better) arrangement from earlier pentile displays called Diamond. The X screen is using the same arrangement. The S7/Note7 used the Diamond arrangement as well (they've been doing this for awhile, since the S4 I think?). The key is really getting a high enough PPI to counter-balance the lower sub-pixel count.

http://www.displaymate.com/Diamond_39.html
http://displaymate.com/Galaxy_S8_ShootOut_01.htm
http://displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note8_ShootOut_100.htm
Ah thanks for the correction. I thought I'd read somewhere that the Samsung 8's are now RGB array. At >500ppi I can no longer see fuzzy text like I could before. I am a bit concern I will see it on the iPhone X with its 458ppi, because I was able to see fuzzy text on the S5 which I believe was 438ppi..
 
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