iPhone X: Silver or Space Grey?

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PVD is NOT a coating. It is a method used to apply a coating.

I can understand if you want to deflect away from what was directed towards you, but You're incorrect. If You would have researched any of those links that I posted to you, you would understand that PVD is used in multiple applications and is not just a method, it's a substrate method of coating various products and isn't primarily just used as a method to apply. Please read before commenting.

 

[sk8mash]

I can understand if you want to deflect away from what was directed towards you, but You're incorrect. If You would have researched any of those links that I posted to you, you would understand that PVD is used in multiple applications and is not just a method, it's a substrate method of coating various products and isn't primarily just used as a method to apply. Please read before commenting.

I think you are purposefully avoiding my main point i.e. an unspecified PVD coating is unlikely to be DLC.

You seem to contradict yourself in your post which is confusing me, but I think there are two options for what you are trying to say:

1. PVD is a method used to apply a coating (to many products in many applications blah blah blah...).
2. PVD is the actual coating that is applied.

If it's point 1, you are correct and we are in agreement. If it's point 2 then you have misunderstood.

Even your previous wiki says "Common industrial coatings applied by PVD are titanium nitride, zirconium nitride, chromium nitride, titanium aluminum nitride." I.e. PVD is a technique used to apply different coatings.

Can you give me an example of where PVD is not used to apply a coating?

 

[44267547]

I think you are purposefully avoiding my main point i.e. an unspecified PVD coating is unlikely to be DLC. Can you give me an example of where PVD is not used to apply a coating?

Read carefully below. Where you're lacking to understand, is you believe PVD is one specific process to apply a coating. That's not true. PVD can be used in many different forms and is not just a process. PVD is dynamic and doesn't specifically apply just as a process, it can be used separately as a coating, where DLC is only applied in one manner, look at it like it's a paint. The most common applications that PVD does not apply a coating, is firearms. That's a heat treated process that uses electroplating to provide a protective bond to the metal or a thin film that essentially is a protective layer, but does not have the hardness of DLC. Reason being because it's a substrate process that can be used on a variety of different types of metals and finishes, where DLC cannot be applied, because it won't adhere appropriately to the metal. Where a physical source is used for the metal content of the coating that combines with a gas to form the PVD coating, which is not transferable to all products.


PVD coating is particularly recommended for all those innovative quality products which require high chemical and technical features (resistance to abrasion, scratches, and corrosion) and at the same time offers a wide choice of chromatic colors. PVD coatings, with a layer thickness in between 0,2m and 2 m, presents exceptional aesthetical features as well as it guarantees a very long life for the durability over DLC, bought you some of the same techniques, but PVD is more dynamic and how it can be applied to a specific product versus DLC.

 

[sk8mash]

Read carefully below. Where you're lacking to understand, is you believe PVD is one specific process to apply a coating. That's not true. PVD can be used in many different forms and is not just a process. PVD is dynamic and doesn't specifically apply just as a process, it can be used separately as a coating, where DLC is only applied in one manner, look at it like it's a paint. The most common applications that PVD does not apply a coating, is firearms. That's a heat treated process that uses electroplating to provide a protective bond to the metal or a thin film that essentially is a protective layer, but does not have the hardness of DLC. Reason being because it's a substrate process that can be used on a variety of different types of metals and finishes, where DLC cannot be applied, because it won't adhere appropriately to the metal. Where a physical source is used for the metal content of the coating that combines with a gas to form the PVD coating, which is not transferable to all products.


PVD coating is particularly recommended for all those innovative quality products which require high chemical and technical features (resistance to abrasion, scratches, and corrosion) and at the same time offers a wide choice of chromatic colors. PVD coatings, with a layer thickness in between 0,2m and 2 m, presents exceptional aesthetical features as well as it guarantees a very long life for the durability over DLC, bought you some of the same techniques, but PVD is more dynamic and how it can be applied to a specific product versus DLC.

PVD in itself is just a process whereby you heat a material, it vaporises, then cools and deposits on to a substrate to produce a film or coating.

Also PVD coating is not the same as electroplating.

When you PVD coat a firearm you are adding a coating material to the surface, using the PVD technique. Please see the chart below detailing PVD coatings available for firearms - all are applied using PVD but the material that is applied is different.

Anyway, this is all now highly irrelevant to the original topic and my original post. Which I will state again:

The PVD coating on the iPhone X is unlikely to be as durable as the DLC coating on the Apple Watch.

 

[44267547]

The PVD coating on the iPhone X is unlikely to be as durable as the DLC coating on the Apple Watch.

Your chart doesn't even apply to a third of the metals that are commonly used for both PVD and DLC. Besides various metals and temperatures that chart Indicates, that doesn't address anything when I have been discussing to you. I'm not sure why you would even post that, as it doesn't prove anything differently. Feel free to believe in what you want about PVD and or its applications. I'm simply correcting your misconceptions and the technical relations and how they differentiate between processes and how they apply dynamically to both PVD and DLC. That was my whole point. But I understand if it doesn't make sense to you or if you don't want accept what was reiterated four different times.

 

[Diorama]

Please Relentless Power, as an outside observer it seems pretty clear that you are the one having trouble understanding, and then to save face you have been digging a big hole. You’re also being very rude about it. Sk8mash is not having trouble understanding anything, he/she has been very reasonable and taken great steps to de-escalate the situation and provide avenues for you to back down, but you refuse to take them and carry on with this ‘clearly you don’t understand’ nonsense.
You are the one who misunderstood. Fair enough, the original point could have been worded better, but it was explained properly later.

 

[maflynn]

[MOD NOTE]
Please use the existing thread. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-x-which-color-storage-are-you-buying-merged.2066981/