iPhone X Supply Revised Lower Yet Again as TrueDepth System Still Faces Production Issues

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    A new report today yet again suggests that customers looking to get an iPhone X this year might face quite the challenge.


    Jeff Pu, an analyst with Taipei-based Yuanta Investment Consulting, has cut his forecast of the number of iPhone X devices that will be produced this year from 40 million units to 36 million. It's the second time he has revised down his estimate, which originally totaled 45 million earlier this year.

    The underlying reason is that Apple's suppliers are still struggling to perfect manufacturing of the iPhone X's TrueDepth camera and 3D facial recognition system, according to Japan's Nikkei Asian Review. We first heard about the production issues from KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo a few weeks ago.

    Multiple reports have claimed it has taken more time to assemble the TrueDepth system's so-called "Romeo" module than the "Juliet" module.

    The "Romeo" module reportedly includes the dot projector that beams more than 30,000 invisible dots to create a precise depth map of your face, while the "Juliet" module includes the infrared camera that analyzes the pattern. Together, they help power new iPhone X features such as Face ID and Animoji.

    Pu maintained his belief that the iPhone X will enter mass production in mid-October and begin to be shipped from China to the first wave of launch countries next week. iPhone X pre-orders begin Friday, October 27, just over two weeks from now. The device officially launches Friday, November 3.

    Article Link: iPhone X Supply Revised Lower Yet Again as TrueDepth System Still Faces Production Issues
  2. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    Seems to move around faster than the Vegas odds for tonights NLDS game. Ultimately someone will guess right -- but who?
  3. AceFernalld macrumors 68000


    Mar 3, 2008
  4. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    Seems like a string a bad news is constantly following the impending release of the X.
  5. shyam09 macrumors 68020


    Oct 31, 2010
    My prediction: We're (folks on MR, because we're awesome) getting our iPhones on launch day.
  6. MrGimper macrumors 603


    Sep 22, 2012
    Andover, UK
    At what point do those who laughed in the faces of people who decided to buy the 8/Plus and wait for the XI, start eating humble pie?
  7. nfl46 macrumors 604

    Oct 5, 2008
    "But, but, Samsung been had a iris scanner in their phone. Apple is purposely trying to create fake demand."'

    Yeah, sure, Apple wants to sell 5 iPhone X for 1K a pop, instead of 15 million iPhone X for 1K.
  8. Macalway macrumors 68030

    Aug 7, 2013
    Still unsure there dude? :D
  9. recoil80 macrumors 68020

    Jul 16, 2014
    That's what I did, but availability at launch wasn't my main concern.
    I had a good deal with my carrier, I'm enjoying the power of A11 and the dual camera and next year in October I'll be eligible for an update and will be able to trade in my 8+ for X2 or X plus or whatever.
    X has less screen width, smaller keyboard and the notch. No hurry to get it, I'll wait for the plus version
  10. _Refurbished_ macrumors 68000


    Mar 23, 2007
  11. WhoDaKat macrumors 6502

    May 20, 2006
    Does anyone remember when Apple didn't ship a product unless it was ready? Clearly the X is compromise after compromise.
  12. unobtainium macrumors 68020

    Mar 27, 2011
    Estimates aren’t moving around, they’re moving consistently in one direction: down, down, down.
  13. bchery21 macrumors 6502a


    Aug 3, 2009
    Boston, MA
    The plot thickens as our odds get worse and worse...
  14. Casfin macrumors regular

    Feb 17, 2016
    This kind of thing would lead me to not be surprised if the X has a number of issues once released.

    From the ridiculous notch, to the fail at the apple event and production issues this device seems half baked in my opinion. That said, I'd never buy the first iteration of any tech device. Let the early adopters be the beta testers.
  15. OldSchoolMacGuy Suspended


    Jul 10, 2008
    Doesn't matter. MacRumors members made it very clear as soon as the phone was announced that it's far too high priced to ever sell and no one will want to buy it. With no demand for it, supply shouldn't be an issue.
  16. Baymowe335 macrumors 601

    Oct 6, 2017
    There is nothing "clear" about it. I just see rumors about production issues on a device that isn't even released yet. Production times can ramp very quickly.
  17. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    Why would they do that? Those that didn't want an 8, didn't want an 8. I didn't laugh at anyone buying an 8 -- it's good phone. But I also didn't want one being a minute update to my 7. If I can't get an X close to launch day I'll happily wait until the XI. Neither a big deal nor life changing moment. The X is a status symbol and new toy on the block, but plenty of those around.
  18. dmylrea macrumors 68030


    Sep 27, 2005
    So aren't they supposed to be MAKING the iPhone X now, but instead are still perfecting manufacturing of the iPhone X's TrueDepth camera and 3D facial recognition system?

    Does that mean the ones they made already (if they have) don't have good TrueDepth cameras?
  19. DakotaGuy macrumors 68040


    Jan 14, 2002
    South Dakota, USA
    These things are going to be selling for $2,000-3,000 on eBay. Time to max the credit card if you have to have one.
  20. T-Will macrumors 6502a


    Sep 8, 2008
  21. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    But isn't that most new iPhones? Lots of parasites that know anything iPhone is clickbait. And what is even better clickbait than bad news?
  22. Scott6666 macrumors 65816


    Feb 2, 2008
    Good thing I got an 8+. Who knows what kind of software issues they're gonna have with this thing over the next year.

    The Samsung Galaxy 8+ has truly dismal face recognition. It's essentially useless. Hope Apple is much better.
  23. dmylrea macrumors 68030


    Sep 27, 2005
    You do realize the phone is supposed to be in consumers hands in 22 days? They're supposed to manufacture 36M phones in 22 days and they haven't even perfected the TD camera and 3D facial recognition? Seems "clear" to me there will be compromises in the first round of phones.
  24. deany macrumors 68030


    Sep 16, 2012
    North Wales
    Shame in a way its the 10th anniversary of iPhone as Apple felt compelled to release a 'special device' to mark the event.

    It would have been better to delay X to launch when 'ready' sans notch etc.
  25. SoApple macrumors regular

    Sep 21, 2012
    This sucks if true. I’m going to pre-order at midnight. If I can’t get it within the first week or two i’ll probably cancel the order. I don’t know if i’ll wait 6+ (according to rumors) weeks

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