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iPhone X test shows INTEL outperformed QUALCOMM

rugmankc said:
This has actually been posted and discussed. Minimal difference on a very short term test. Not real world usage.

That said:

I was gonna ask on a new thread. But, while here has anyone used the iPhone X Intel and Qualcomm on ATT, this year.? Did you see any difference in signal strength or call quality?

Seems to be minimal difference this year. Just wondering if the Qualcomm may still do better in low signal areas.Read some posts on reduced call quality with Qualcomm on ATT.
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I have had both, though not at the same time. QC on At&t gets me slightly better signal, but the Intel version got me faster LTE speeds. Just for my usage, not really much difference to me.
 
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George Knighton said:
Well, I hope Apple knows what they're doing.

I was very close to just not buying an iPhone X this year, and after I got one I was close to sending it back...and it had to do with the V30 appearing to be almost as good as the iPhone with processing, and very clearly better with data throughput.
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Considering I bought a V30, then moved to a V30+, I'd say I was beyond it. I have no regrets using this device as my daily driver. I can finally go out in the country and stream YouTube Red. That seems like such a little thing but it can be huge when you can't even text, accept calls, or do anything else either!

There isn't even band 71 deployment in my area either and the difference between my 7 Plus and V30+ are like night and day. Intel may catch up someday but that day is not today. So until Apple gives us the best modems available (Don't care which but I have had good luck with Qualcomm) I won't be getting another iPhone.
 
Septembersrain said:
Considering I bought a V30, then moved to a V30+, I'd say I was beyond it. I have no regrets using this device as my daily driver. I can finally go out in the country and stream YouTube Red. That seems like such a little thing but it can be huge when you can't even text, accept calls, or do anything else either!

There isn't even band 71 deployment in my area either and the difference between my 7 Plus and V30+ are like night and day. Intel may catch up someday but that day is not today. So until Apple gives us the best modems available (Don't care which but I have had good luck with Qualcomm) I won't be getting another iPhone.
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The v30 has 4x4 MIMO and 256? I know it supports tmobiles band 71.
 
Truefan31 said:
The v30 has 4x4 MIMO and 256? I know it supports tmobiles band 71.
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Yes it does.

This risks me sounding like planned obsolescence can be brought up but, the iPhone 8/8+/X could have had the capabilities too. They left out certain antennas on the Qualcomm so it would be on par with Intel.

iFixit even verified this.

So next year they *Might* include it. So if you're in a market that stands to gain the network speed, you'll have to upgrade devices to get it...
 
Lobwedgephil said:
I have had both, though not at the same time. QC on At&t gets me slightly better signal, but the Intel version got me faster LTE speeds. Just for my usage, not really much difference to me.
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Thanks Lobwedgephil,

Info that I was looking for.

Assume that is from this year--

Which iPhone/iphones?
 
Septembersrain said:
They are not in the USA, the difference wouldn't be as obvious unless they had a bad signal.
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It's mostly going to come down to the network quality. The chip makes a difference, but it really gets far more complicated. I -rarely- see bad network coverage, the problem I have is even with full bars of LTE my phone refuses to load anything due to network congestion.

However if you look at the past, the other points you have made are totally correct (adoption of 3G, adoption of LTE, adoption of extra bands for t-mobile (really burned me, my family -hated- the 6 on t-mobile and it would have been a lot better if I had waited an extra year for the 6S with the extra bands) Apple does seem to take a bit longer to upgrade their core phone tech than Android manufactures, so if that is your main goal in the phone it might be best to look elsewhere.
 
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Diminish82 said:
This. Overall speed is not the concern - Apple will make sure both perform similarly with software on this front. The issue is coverage at low signal strength, this is where the QCOM modem excels.

Very week coverage where I work. My coworkers Intel X jumps in and out of no signal, my QCOM X (both on AT&T) sits with a perfectly usable 1 bar.
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Thanks Diminish82 and Lobwedgephil (again),

I have been driving all day back from vacation and only saw the posts. Helps me a lot.

It seems things are pretty close this year. And, hopefully the talk of poor call quality was isolated. Or, impacted by some other issue.
 
My iPhone X has significantly better reception than my iPhone 7 Plus. Coincidentally, the iPhone X sold in Hong Kong uses Qualcomm, while the iPhone 7 Plus uses Intel modem.
 
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acorntoy said:
It's mostly going to come down to the network quality. The chip makes a difference, but it really gets far more complicated. I -rarely- see bad network coverage, the problem I have is even with full bars of LTE my phone refuses to load anything due to network congestion.

However if you look at the past, the other points you have made are totally correct (adoption of 3G, adoption of LTE, adoption of extra bands for t-mobile (really burned me, my family -hated- the 6 on t-mobile and it would have been a lot better if I had waited an extra year for the 6S with the extra bands) Apple does seem to take a bit longer to upgrade their core phone tech than Android manufactures, so if that is your main goal in the phone it might be best to look elsewhere.
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I agree. That's why I moved to the V30+. On T-Mobile, you can't make the best of their service without having a modem that can run all their bands properly.

However, it's still sad to see when they've got a good modem but cripple its functionality.
 
Oh God, now we’re going to have people claiming they had to return 12+ iPhones to get one with the “proper” chip.

Oh well, it means that the stock of refurbished iPhones will grow at a substantially faster rate.
 
Tom G. said:
Oh God, now we’re going to have people claiming they had to return 12+ iPhones to get one with the “proper” chip.

Oh well, it means that the stock of refurbished iPhones will grow at a substantially faster rate.
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Does Apple officially offer any other refurbished phone other than the 6S/S+ for sale? And I always thought that was because the battery shutdown problem when they got an influx of devices almost a year after they were released. It
 
acorntoy said:
Does Apple officially offer any other refurbished phone other than the 6S/S+ for sale? And I always thought that was because the battery shutdown problem when they got an influx of devices almost a year after they were released. It
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They generally offer them a year after they are released I think. Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong.
I think right now they really don't have any. People are buying them maybe?
 
Septembersrain said:
This risks me sounding like planned obsolescence can be brought up but, the iPhone 8/8+/X could have had the capabilities too.
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I believe that they could have too, but for the time and money spend on the IR stuff, and then having the big fight with Qualcomm.

I can understand both sides of the Qualcomm fight, so I'll just sit back and wait for the judges to figure it out. 🙂
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Tom G. said:
Oh God, now we’re going to have people claiming they had to return 12+ iPhones to get one with the “proper” chip.

Oh well, it means that the stock of refurbished iPhones will grow at a substantially faster rate.
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LOL.... 🙂

"Maybe" to both of your premise.

When I bought my T-Mobile iPhone X, you weren't allowed to buy a Sprint or Verizon iPhone X unless you could verify a phone number with that provider.

I suppose they've caught up well with production, because I see that now you can buy a Verizon iPhone X without having to verify the Verizon phone number.

But if it's about data throughput and signal capture, the fact is that the V30's a leg up on both versions of the iPhone X. 0_o
 
If software is crippling Qualcomm’s capabilities, could a jail broken phone unlock its potential?
 
Septembersrain said:
No. They modified the hardware. I don't think a jailbreak would restore full functionality but it could possibly make it function better?
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^^THIS^^

Pretty sure a hardware change, no software.

Plus, if possible, we would have read it here somewhere---🙂
 
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