iPhone X Thoughts

[Tinmania]

There are 6 months worth of industry rumors about a 6.46”-6.6” X Plus as wide as a 8 Plus and with 2800 × 1242 resolution.

There were six months worth of rumors that the iPhone X would have under-the-glass TouchID. How did that work out?

More importantly, the industry in general seems to be moving away from "wide as an 8 Plus.". The Note 8 has great reviews, lauded for its excellent big screen, yet is over 3mm skinier than the iPhone 8+. I can't see Apple making an X as wide as the +.

That said I am not exactly happy with this "skinny is in" trend. Indeed I would prefer the X a little wider. But I do love that it is easier to manage one handed than the +, and I have large hands. The sweet spot for me would be an X that is just a little wider, without increasing length (or only a little). But I doubt that will happen as it is too close to the existing X. Time will tell...



Mike

 

[Technarchy]

The specs are the specs. Usable real estate is subjective. I never used landscape mode on my 6 plus. I respect your opinion that the X is closer to the 8 in use, but both in my opinion and in math, it is closer to the plus.

Is this a joke post? You must not have been visiting the forum much recently.

Ask yourself a real world question: is the X content below closer to the 8 or 8+?

 

[magbarn]

Is this a joke post? You must not have been visiting the forum much recently.

Ask yourself a real world question: is the X content below closer to the 8 or 8+?

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Your pic sums it up perfectly. My 8+ is a 52" screen, the X feels more like a 46", whilst the 8 is a 42"...
Wish Apple would've done what they did with the 6 release by putting out both sizes at once, I can live with the inconvenience of faceID for myself, but the skinny screen is the deal breaker. At least there's the 8+, just the camera is compromised again....

 

[profets]

Wrong. The X resolution of 2436-by-1125 is closer to 1920 x 1080 pixels of the plus than the 1334 x 750 regular.

The iPhone X has a 5.8 inch display, which is larger than the 5.5 on the plus and huge compared to 4.7 on the 8.

The specs strongly suggest the X is a plus replacement.

For what it’s worth, the UI is driven/designed by points, not pixels.

The 4.7” iPhone point resolution is 375 x 667
The 5.5” iPhone point resolution is 414 x 736
The iPhone X point resolution is 375 x 812

In terms of the UI and size classes, the X is more similar to the 4.7” iPhone (it has identical width in points, but is taller).

 

[BigAppleNYC123]

For what it’s worth, the UI is driven/designed by points, not pixels.

The 4.7” iPhone point resolution is 375 x 667
The 5.5” iPhone point resolution is 414 x 736
The iPhone X point resolution is 375 x 812

In terms of the UI and size classes, the X is more similar to the 4.7” iPhone (it has identical width in points, but is taller).

Multiply out the stats you just gave me. Plus models are 304k. X is 304k. Regular 8 is 250k. Doesn’t look like a coincidence two models are 304k.

 

[giggles]

More importantly, the industry in general seems to be moving away from "wide as an 8 Plus.". The Note 8 has great reviews, lauded for its excellent big screen, yet is over 3mm skinier than the iPhone 8+. I can't see Apple making an X as wide as the +.

“Over 3mm” sounds more like a rounding error than an industry trend.
Also the Note 8 is a different kind of bezel less (fat chins, no sides), it should be expected to be slightly slimmer than a X Plus (slim bezels on 4 sides).

 

[Technarchy]

Your pic sums it up perfectly. My 8+ is a 52" screen, the X feels more like a 46", whilst the 8 is a 42"...
Wish Apple would've done what they did with the 6 release by putting out both sizes at once, I can live with the inconvenience of faceID for myself, but the skinny screen is the deal breaker. At least there's the 8+, just the camera is compromised again....

The X display

For what it’s worth, the UI is driven/designed by points, not pixels.

The 4.7” iPhone point resolution is 375 x 667
The 5.5” iPhone point resolution is 414 x 736
The iPhone X point resolution is 375 x 812

In terms of the UI and size classes, the X is more similar to the 4.7” iPhone (it has identical width in points, but is taller).

Gets deeper.

The aspect ratio of the X is 19.5:9, but the notch means you get a small screen for practical use at 18.5:9 in aspect ratio.

With 16:9, the format of shows and YouTube, your effective display size is only a 4.96” screen, which is far below the 5.5” 8+ display.

 

[profets]

Multiply out the stats you just gave me. Plus models are 304k. X is 304k. Regular 8 is 250k. Doesn’t look like a coincidence two models are 304k.

I’m not arguing one way or the other whether the X is meant to be a replacement for the Plus.

But the most significant parts of the UI are identical to the 4.7” iPhone.

 

[AppleRobert]

I own both and let me tell you, in use the extra width alone makes the plus screen visually larger. Actually, since they are measuring from the 'ears' of the X, if you discount the notch, the 8 Plus factually has more surface area than the "larger" 5.8" screen on the X.

If you take an 8, 8 Plus, and X and set them side by side, on top of each other, etc....the X appears to be an elongated 4.7" phone. I am not knocking the X, hell I own it, but given the industry trends there simply isn't any way the next size won't be a larger OLED design similar in size to the modern Plus.

The 'specs' may suggest the X is a plus replacement, but a decade of cell phones has proven that specs seldom tell the entire story. If they did, those 8 core processor 6GB Ram android phones should be blowing the doors off of the measly specs of the iPhone. But we know that isn't the case.

Do you know what the dpi is set to on the X?

One can adjust dpi through developer option setting on lots of android phones. If you had the ability to do it on the X, would you?

 

[Tinmania]

“Over 3mm” sounds more like a rounding error than an industry trend.
Also the Note 8 is a different kind of bezel less (fat chins, no sides), it should be expected to be slightly slimmer than a X Plus (slim bezels on 4 sides).

Rounding error? No industry trend? Wow lol.



Mike

 

[giggles]

Rounding error? No industry trend? Wow lol.

Mike

Ok, no smartphone ever, especially by Apple (who’s not on board with the “no sides” trend), will ever be as wide as an 8+ (78mm) again, because 3mm.

Noted.

 

[BigAppleNYC123]

Your pic sums it up perfectly. My 8+ is a 52" screen, the X feels more like a 46", whilst the 8 is a 42"...
Wish Apple would've done what they did with the 6 release by putting out both sizes at once, I can live with the inconvenience of faceID for myself, but the skinny screen is the deal breaker. At least there's the 8+, just the camera is compromised again....

The math doesn’t support your statement. You pick the metric, it can be inches, resolution, or something else.

 

[magbarn]

The math doesn’t support your statement. You pick the metric, it can be inches, resolution, or something else.

Sometimes math takes a back seat to ergonomics. A 15 inch MacBook Pro Is much more usable for what I use it for vs a dell XPS 15 pc laptop with a 4K screen due to the dells crappier screen ratio. In raw numbers the 4K screen has more pixels but it’s much narrower than the MacBook Pro making it more of a strain to use.

 

[BigAppleNYC123]

The X display


Gets deeper.

The aspect ratio of the X is 19.5:9, but the notch means you get a small screen for practical use at 18.5:9 in aspect ratio.

With 16:9, the format of shows and YouTube, your effective display size is only a 4.96” screen, which is far below the 5.5” 8+ display.

The 5.5” iPhone point resolution is 414 x 736 = 304k
The iPhone X point resolution is 375 x 812 = 304k

Do you think that’s a coincidence?
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Sometimes math takes a back seat to ergonomics. A 15 inch MacBook Pro Is much more usable for what I use it for vs a dell XPS 15 pc laptop with a 4K screen due to the dells crappier screen ratio. In raw numbers the 4K screen has more pixels but it’s much narrower than the MacBook Pro making it more of a strain to use.

it is my opinion that forum users are more inclined to be plus owners than the average American, and that forum users are also more inclined to use horizontal mode more frequently.

The 5.5” iPhone point resolution is 414 x 736
The iPhone X point resolution is 375 x 812
The iPhone X and Plus have the same point resolution at 304k. Do you think that’s a coincidence? I think plus owners who want a bigger x might be disappointed. maybe ill be wrong. We shall see.

 

[sumiregusa]

coming from the iPhone 6 and using it for 3yrs - the size of the X is great. i would have gone with the Plus model this time but the size is great in one hand. the speed is welcomed of course along with the battery life. no complaints.

Came here to say pretty much this. I love my Plus but I was ready for a change and the X hits all the marks for me.

When they inevitably come out with a larger form factor in the future then I'll gladly take a 6.4" Plus size phone.

 

[Tthomas612]

I really feel like this phone is the 4.7” iPhone ... don’t get me wrong I love my X. Screen is vibrant. FaceID works great (still miss touchID)...

My apps are small though. Coming from the Plus. There’s no plus features on this phone. No split view on anything. This phone is made as the direct replacement to the 4.7” IPhone... the is size will be next year...

Until then I’ll love my 4.7” iPhone with a 5.8” display

 

[KingslayerG5]

It's actually quite heavy for its dimensions. As heavy as my V20 which is as tall as the iPhone Plus models. My right thumb can't reach the upper left corner at all. I pretty much pictured it as the 5" Pixel with a taller screen. But the X's weight on it was surprising. Then you need to add a case for it which adds even more weight.

I actually like the dimensions of the X. Anything shorter than 145 mm in height is quite easy for me. And I did type on it and had no issues with the narrower width. Just seems like a sleek and very polished phone. Best iPhone ever made.. internally.. so far. Did wish the camera hump wasn't as ugly as the 7 Plus / 8 Plus and was horizontal. And also the ugly gray area where the dock is.

 

[Surf Monkey]

I really feel like this phone is the 4.7” iPhone ... don’t get me wrong I love my X. Screen is vibrant. FaceID works great (still miss touchID)...

My apps are small though. Coming from the Plus. There’s no plus features on this phone. No split view on anything. This phone is made as the direct replacement to the 4.7” IPhone... the is size will be next year...

Until then I’ll love my 4.7” iPhone with a 5.8” display

Agree. There’s no doubt that a Plus sized X is on the way next year. None. Personally, I’m expecting it to be called the iPhone X Pro, but X Plus works too. I also expect it to fully support split screen multitasking and Apple Pencil. I think I said it in another thead: an iPhone X Plus with those features would be the crossover device between iPhone and iPad that the iPad Mini was supposed do be but never really was.

 

[BigAppleNYC123]

Agree. There’s no doubt that a Plus sized X is on the way next year. None. Personally, I’m expecting it to be called the iPhone X Pro, but X Plus works too. I also expect it to fully support split screen multitasking and Apple Pencil. I think I said it in another thead: an iPhone X Plus with those features would be the crossover device between iPhone and iPad that the iPad Mini was supposed do be but never really was.

Lmao. I think you’re gonna be very, very disappointed. Apple has never released a phone bigger than the plus and the notion that they will is wishful thinking.

The point resolution of the X is identical to the plus at 304k. I don’t think you realize how poorly this bodes for your prediction.

I really feel like this phone is the 4.7” iPhone ... don’t get me wrong I love my X. Screen is vibrant. FaceID works great (still miss touchID)...

My apps are small though. Coming from the Plus. There’s no plus features on this phone. No split view on anything. This phone is made as the direct replacement to the 4.7” IPhone... the is size will be next year...

Until then I’ll love my 4.7” iPhone with a 5.8” display

The 5.5” iPhone point resolution is 414 x 736 = 304k
The iPhone X point resolution is 375 x 812 = 304k

The devices have identical point resolutions. This is a sign that the X is a shrunken plus, and not an augmented 4.7.

 

[markp-a]

I picked up an X at lunch today at a Verizon retail store. Wasn’t expecting them to have any to sell. I like it. Fast and smooth. New gestures are easy to get used to. And the notch is nothing.

 

[GermanSuplex]

I love it. Screen is nice, battery life seems fine, I'm fine with Face ID thus far, and the size is perfect. I'm coming from a Plus model. Much smaller phone with a screen just slightly smaller (I enjoyed the Plus' screen and great battery, but it is a little hard to handle sometimes). Great compromise for those who loved the size of the screen on the Plus but sort of missed a smaller, more easy to handle phone.

 

[tonyy]

Lmao. I think you’re gonna be very, very disappointed. Apple has never released a phone bigger than the plus and the notion that they will is wishful thinking.

The point resolution of the X is identical to the plus at 304k. I don’t think you realize how poorly this bodes for your prediction.



The 5.5” iPhone point resolution is 414 x 736 = 304k
The iPhone X point resolution is 375 x 812 = 304k

The devices have identical point resolutions. This is a sign that the X is a shrunken plus, and not an augmented 4.7.

I’ll mark this thread to remember next year. You have your opinion and others have there’s. Nothing wrong with that.

The numbers are the numbers but why so adamant about the point resolution? So the X is the same as the Plus..that says nothing about what’s coming out next year.

In real world usage and having literally all 3 size phones in front of me, the X is a lot more similar to the 7/8 than the Plus variant. In fact, the X is almost identical to the 7/8 except taller.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Lmao. I think you’re gonna be very, very disappointed. Apple has never released a phone bigger than the plus and the notion that they will is wishful thinking.

When did I say it would be bigger than the Plus? I didn’t.

The point resolution of the X is identical to the plus at 304k. I don’t think you realize how poorly this bodes for your prediction.

Because Apple has never altered point resolution or aspect ratios. Sure. You stick with that.

The 5.5” iPhone point resolution is 414 x 736 = 304k
The iPhone X point resolution is 375 x 812 = 304k

The devices have identical point resolutions. This is a sign that the X is a shrunken plus, and not an augmented 4.7.

Dandy. My prediction stands.

https://www.macworld.com/article/3236255/iphone-ipad/iphone-2018-rumors.html

 

[BigAppleNYC123]

I’ll mark this thread to remember next year. You have your opinion and others have there’s. Nothing wrong with that.

The numbers are the numbers but why so adamant about the point resolution? So the X is the same as the Plus..that says nothing about what’s coming out next year.

In real world usage and having literally all 3 size phones in front of me, the X is a lot more similar to the 7/8 than the Plus variant. In fact, the X is almost identical to the 7/8 except taller.

The X is wider than the 6..

I also know plenty of people that prefer small phones. They use SEs. Eventually, apple will put Face ID in a smaller phone, or people won’t upgrade. Heck, apple released the SE because people thought the 6 was too big.

There is definitely a market for both smaller and larger models. Well see which apple enters into.
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Dandy. My prediction stands.

https://www.macworld.com/article/3236255/iphone-ipad/iphone-2018-rumors.html

I’ve changed my mind. But it’s not because of rumors. The best argument for a jumbo iPhone is that faceID components are expensive and limited in quantity, and therefore Apple should place them in the most expensive devices possible. An 1800 dollar iPhone does that trick.

But remember - Apple brought out the SE because some people thought the 6 was too big. Eventually faceID components will be cheaper and easier to produce, and my friends with SEs can enjoy faceID as well.

 

[Surf Monkey]

I’ve changed my mind. But it’s not because of rumors. The best argument for a jumbo iPhone is that faceID components are expensive and limited in quantity, and therefore Apple should place them in the most expensive devices possible. An 1800 dollar iPhone does that trick.

But remember - Apple brought out the SE because some people thought the 6 was too big. Eventually faceID components will be cheaper and easier to produce, and my friends with SEs can enjoy faceID as well.

More likely: iPhone Xs gets a price drop. iPhone X Plus gets the same price as the current X.