iPhone X Was One of the Top Three Best-Selling Smartphones in December 2017 Across Five Markets

[MacBebe]

iPhones are not selling according to supply chain reports.

 

[deanthedev]

Of course I'm not claiming that. It's why I use words like usually, primarily, etc. I try not to deal in absolutes.

To your claim above, you do the exact same thing. Am I to assume that, because your response to almost any market share thread is to ignore the topic and go off on a tangent about Apple's superiority elsewhere, you don't know about Android's market share domination? Of course I wouldn't assume that, but you're positing that others don't know about Apple's high end domination because they choose to talk about other aspects of the market. You don't see the irony there?

Also, you never answered my question. Say you get the report that you want to see. Then what?

My original stance (as it always has been) is that these market share reports are meaningless. Yet these research companies constantly trot them out as if they’re relevant.

Perhaps you should ask them why they continue to mislead with vague numbers, instead of complaining to someone like me asking for concise numbers.

 

[69Mustang]

My original stance (as it always has been) is that these market share reports are meaningless. Yet these research companies constantly trot them out as if they’re relevant.

Perhaps you should ask them why they continue to mislead with vague numbers, instead of complaining to someone like me asking for concise numbers.

I'm not interested in their vague numbers. I am however interested in your take on numbers and their relevance. It's why I keep asking you about them. What would you do if the numbers you wanted were actually reported? Would they be any more relevant?

 

[deanthedev]

I'm not interested in their vague numbers. I am however interested in your take on numbers and their relevance. It's why I keep asking you about them. What would you do if the numbers you wanted were actually reported? Would they be any more relevant?

They wouldn’t be relevant to me since I already know the truth. It would be interesting to see the responses of people who don’t know the truth. I suspect they’d doubt the validity of the numbers since they no longer align with their beliefs.

 

[bpp85]

Not really surprised with Europe, Apple really brings out the price sensitivity out of many Europeans with their latest offerings. The US and UK are definitely Apple’s sweethearts when it comes to iOS market penetration. Every other country is solidly in Android’s camp and will probably remain so for good given current circumstances. Looks like a iOS device in Spain is the equivalent of a unicorn.

It’s not really a unicorn but it’s rare
In most of Europe iOS is around 10-20% of the market share. Which I personally like, just the other day when I was out and about, all I saw was Samsung phones, from the very cheap to note 8s, I feel a bit different with an iPhone can’t imagine what it’s like in the US where almost every other person has an iPhone

 

[ani4ani]

Sales tax in Europe is stupid high in some countries. Add that plus and a bad currency exchange from $US to euro.

I'll travel to the US later this year and will maybe buy one there and save around 350 $US

Add in that in Europe that there is a minimum of 2 years warranty (e.g. no need to be fleeced with Apple care). I purchased an iPad in the US and when it went wrong, Apple uk had no interest....the savings don’t always materialise.

 

[john123]

Notch...lovers? Are there such a thing?

I have an iPhone X. About the only time the notch enters my consciousness these days is when I read forum posts about it.

Yeah, read the forums more. I've seen so many people actually advocating the notch. That it adds uniqueness, style, etc.

People will tell themselves just about anything to avoid cognitive dissonance.

 

[Tech198]

Everyone liked FaceID, and the better screen. That's why

 

[dampfnudel]

It’s not really a unicorn but it’s rare
In most of Europe iOS is around 10-20% of the market share. Which I personally like, just the other day when I was out and about, all I saw was Samsung phones, from the very cheap to note 8s, I feel a bit different with an iPhone can’t imagine what it’s like in the US where almost every other person has an iPhone

Well, here in New York it depends a lot on the neighborhood/borough. You’ll find some neighborhoods in the city where Android owns that particular “market”. In my neighborhood in Brooklyn, it’s mostly iPhones that roam the streets.

 

[The Game 161]

iPhones are not selling according to supply chain reports.

Only by the analyst super super high expections. Still crushes the comp in sales.

 

[Multiminds]

Well i love Iphone but they are not improving their Batteries At all, Why they don't focus on that?

 

[I7guy]

Yeah, read the forums more. I've seen so many people actually advocating the notch. That it adds uniqueness, style, etc.

People will tell themselves just about anything to avoid cognitive dissonance.

Advocating the notch vs making the phone bigger. Hmmm. You’re correct, discussing those options tend to make people avoid cognitive dissonance, on all sides.

 

[john123]

Advocating the notch vs making the phone bigger. Hmmm. You’re correct, discussing those options tend to make people avoid cognitive dissonance, on all sides.

Didn't have to be a bigger phone either. It could have had (gasp) a bezel. Or the ears could have always had a black background and deactivated in landscape model. Various options.

Anyway, if someone has decided they actively like the notch, far be it for me to try to convince them.

 

[I7guy]

Didn't have to be a bigger phone either. It could have had (gasp) a bezel. Or the ears could have always had a black background and deactivated in landscape model. Various options.

Anyway, if someone has decided they actively like the notch, far be it for me to try to convince them.

Well i was wondering why a sardonic generalization of a group of users (people who like a notch rather than a bigger phone or less bezels) needed to be made, rather than just stating your opinion of the design.

 

[john123]

Well i was wondering why a sardonic generalization of a group of users (people who like a notch rather than a bigger phone or less bezels) needed to be made, rather than just stating your opinion of the design.

Because I didn't want to comment on the design. And more than that, my comment was a reply to the question of whether anyone actively LIKES a notch. In that context, me sharing a personal opinion about the design would actually be irrelevant.

 

[I7guy]

Because I didn't want to comment on the design. And more than that, my comment was a reply to the question of whether anyone actively LIKES a notch. In that context, me sharing a personal opinion about the design would actually be irrelevant.

People have said they did like notch, if that is the question, as opposed to what one would like to have apple do instead of the notch.

Point stands about a not-so-subtle dig for this generalized group of people.

 

[Jimrod]

That's funny, I was making a comment a few days (or weeks?) ago, mentioning that I don't understand why it is so popular in the US and UK.
Cause here in central Europe (Austria), almost nobody has an iPhone anymore.
Since years, actually.
The most iPhones I see are the 4s, 5s. Sometimes a 6.
But people here enjoy using open standards, different brands and open software in general.
Maybe "we"just don't have that much of brand loyalty here...nobody cares.

I also switched to month ago... Apple just doesn't offer what it did in the past and, most importantly, the prices here are a joke. People pretty much make fun out of "new apple" :/

I think UK popularity is starting to sink - I've yet to see an iPhone X and I'm from a fairly large techy town. For me it's not price or design as such, it's the size, the 6/7/8 was as large as I'd ever want a phone.

 

[The Game 161]

I think UK popularity is starting to sink - I've yet to see an iPhone X and I'm from a fairly large techy town. For me it's not price or design as such, it's the size, the 6/7/8 was as large as I'd ever want a phone.

dunno about that. I think size wise the X is the perfect size for the average person. Until the sales fiqures are out all this is impossible to know. Can't really judge things on who you see out with one as for one it isn't always easy to know as not everybody has their phones out regularly.

 

[Jimrod]

dunno about that. I think size wise the X is the perfect size for the average person. Until the sales fiqures are out all this is impossible to know. Can't really judge things on who you see out with one as for one it isn't always easy to know as not everybody has their phones out regularly.

Well I also don't know anyone with an iPhone X and that's the first time I've known that of a new iPhone, so anecdotally it's not rocking the world of anyone I personally know.

I have large hands and went from the 6 to the SE when the battery started dying because I only ever use a phone one-handed and I felt even the 6 needed shuffling around at times (not to mention power button opposed to volume button being poor ergonomically when you naturally squeeze to press them), it just meant it always felt more "droppable". The X is bigger in every dimension and now has more pull down gestures so doesn't really appeal to me.

 

[saile]

the analysis of the figures shows that it is still a great success and the product is a very good smartphone. But one thing is for sure, it does not sold as much as expected ... Apple expected more sales overall, but, the period of dominants smartphones is over, there are too many different models and rates of new releases are such that people do not hesitate to wait to see.


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[Shanghaichica]

dunno about that. I think size wise the X is the perfect size for the average person. Until the sales fiqures are out all this is impossible to know. Can't really judge things on who you see out with one as for one it isn't always easy to know as not everybody has their phones out regularly.

In the last 3 days I’ve seen 8 iPhone X.