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No one here seems to have passed their basic math class. 60% + $999 only accounts for a price of $1599.

This is greedy Apple's fault by adding another $500 to the price!

And perhaps you missed all the prior posts where people properly pointed out that there are a lot of other factors that affect price as well (other taxes besides the import tariff, exchange rate... just to name a couple). I know that after reading one entire article you feel fully informed and qualified to render judgements...but you are not.
 
While the Brazilian government situation sucks, this phone is not even meant for minimum wage workers in the US. That’s a pointless metric since this a luxury item.

That’s like being triggered because a minimum wage worker can’t buy a Mercedes AMG GTC convertible.
I agree, the iPhone would be a luxury item in Brazil even without the 60% tax, also the iPhone X is already ~50% more than the iPhone 8, 7, 6.

From Kantar's numbers, in Brazil Android is 90+% and iOS is ~5%, these 5% would mostly be wealthy and can probably afford the iPhone even with the 60% tax.

Screenshot-2017-11-28 Smartphone OS sales market share – Kantar Worldpanel ComTech.png

https://www.kantarworldpanel.com/global/smartphone-os-market-share/
 
Brazil is how some people from other countries refer to Brasil, like how some people call the US the EEUU. Sometimes people refer to Krung Thep Mahanakhon Amon Rattanakosin Mahinthara Ayuthaya Mahadilok Phop Noppharat Ratchathani Burirom Udomratchaniwet Mahasathan Amon Piman Awatan Sath as “Bangkok” too.

Saúde, Saudade!
[doublepost=1511711937][/doublepost]What Brazil lacks in cheap iPhones it makes up for with caipirinhas on the beach, Carnival, pao de queijo, amazing food and scenery, and diverse culture.

We should be friends. Ruim da cabeça ou doente do pé?
 
I hope the situation improves there someday. I always wanted to visit after seeing all of the documentaries and travel shows which often depict Brazil as a troubled country with strong people, distinguished culture and beautiful scenery. I've visited several countries in South Amerca, but never Brazil. Part of the reason was concern over the security situation there in recent years. My concern is probably overblown to some degree given my own experience growing up in New York City during the 1980s, when crime was really bad here, taking the subway at night was a rather risky endeavor and a lot of people actively avoided coming here or staying. Despite that, my family and I had a good life here and people found a way to adjust, move/stay here and eventually improve the situation.
Yes, Brazil has a high crime rate, but the worse situation is in big capitals like São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. If you're afraid but want to visit Brazil, try to visit some of the cities in the south region. You'll be welcome.
From what I heard (and this from multiple sources, even though I never went there - it's too far from here, almost 2 thousand miles), the best places to visit are from the South Region:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Region,_Brazil

And a few places from São Paulo. The South Region (surprise!) had strong influence from European immigrants, so it's better than the rest.

However the media will never tell tourists to visit the South, only Rio de Janeiro (Southeast), which in a very distant past was no differerent than major cities from first world countries. In modern times it has become an embarrassment, and if you visit there be prepared to not go back. Visiting Rio is nowadays like going to Syria, Afghanistan or Iraq.

Forget anything good said about this place, it's all 100% lies masked by propaganda. Nobody likes it. Saying that Rio represents Brazil is the same as saying North Korea represents Asia.

Most cities from the Northeast Region (where I live) are equally bad compared to Rio, and the North, unless you are interested in the Amazon rainforest, is completely forgotten by the rest of the country (and like the Northeast also underveloped). Asking people from other regions if they know someone from the North is like asking if you know someone from another planet.

I just came here to tell that ANATEL (our FCC) has released the documentation for the iPhone X and it will also be assembled in Brazil (which exempts it from some taxes). And there are people refusing to believe that our government isn't the only to be blamed in the history.
I heard Apple was due to stop until the end of the year:

http://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/econ...rrada-ainda-em-2017-ddybv7t8zsd57kf6nulmwbgf6

Meaning all iPhones sold in Brazil will not even have that. The report says the final costs are increased by 25% (not including all the taxes) with this idea of assembling them here. The components are all manufactured and imported from China.

And there's also another graph that shows Apple is selling less devices in the country each year...

https://tecnoblog.net/210954/smartphones-market-share-brasil-2016/

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For all the reasons I stated it's no surprise that no one wants (or is able to continue) investing in Brazil. There's no way to survive in a hostile environment for business.

My personal example is all you need to understand how Brazil barely works and can't evolve in any way.

If I were forced to pay all the taxes the government wanted for that IPP 10.5 then I would have to forget buying anything else from Apple and my only alternative would be Samsung products, which I already dismissed:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/what-would-you-do-in-this-scenario.2078736/#post-25253181

And don't think for a second Samsung smartphones are cheap, it's just that most people can barely have them, while for ALL Apple products their only alternative is to not pay most taxes the government asks. Unless you have a lot of money, of course.

But even fooling customs won't last, iPhones/iPADs aren't selling anywhere near what they used to 5 years ago.
 
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After all this time these are the prices I was able to find here for the iPhone X (256 GB - Space Gray):

6000 BRL = US$ 1822
6500 BRL = US$ 1974

In the local eBay (Mercado Livre).

Apple from Brazil (apple.com.br) sells this model for
7019 BRL = US$ 2131

*******
I sold today the iPAD Pro 9.7 (2016), 128 GB wifi-only, Space Gray, with the charcoal gray silicone case from Apple. I was lucky, someone bought for

2866 BRL = US$ 870

It was used for almost a year, 10% battery degradation. In excelent condition.

I already had the iPad Pro 10.5 (256 GB wifi + cel, Space Gray, from BHPhotoVideo). The price at the time from this newer iPAD was US$ 829. As I explained here I used a freight forwarder and paid lot less taxes (perhaps 10 times less than I would have paid if the true prices were informed).

I noticed most ads don't offer the Space Gray version, too. Not sure if the sellers are retarded or can't get them.

Suffice to say I won't be buying from Apple anymore (or it will take a lot of time, 3, 4 years), their devices can't sell here with so many taxes. There's a high risk this trick to fool customs might not work (forcing me to return the package to the U.S.) or that I lose/damage the package during transit, you may consider yourself with the same luck as someone who won the lottery when the "trick" isn't discovered.

And if the package is lost or damaged no one will be able to complain if the original price was not informed to the USPS.

And since I don't want to gamble so much money it will take a long, long time before I get another iPAD or think about these new iPhones. I replaced the iPAD 4 (2012) with the Pro 9.7 (2016), and now I am thinking I should wait the same period.
 
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All that for FaceID over TouchID and no bezel (in a nutshell). Really people, the 8 is the same thing for all intents and purposes.
 
All that for FaceID over TouchID and no bezel (in a nutshell). Really people, the 8 is the same thing for all intents and purposes.
My only concern with these Apple devices is that we can't replace their battery, and in the future the only option is to ditch them.

I fear for a future where you have to spend a lot of $$$$$ to replace your battery (which will need to be done eventually) or a scenario where no one can do that except Apple. Repairability scores from iFixit indicate that is either complicated or not possible to do such procedures in all these new devices.

No one is going to convince me this iOS 11 fiasco with the battery wasn't intentional to force users to buy new devices sooner than they used to. Planned obsolescence is the only plausible explanation.

And when you have a country where these items are sold for extortionate prices to feed all parasites from the government the only alternatives would be Samsung products which can't be compared, or old/used iPADs and iPhones. I hope everyone wakes up before this place becomes another Venezuela.
 
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