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I have a feeling the battery in the Max will be plenty for me but how does the Note 9 fit a 4000mAh battery? I know following this will be comments about being too big and past issues but surely they learned their lesson. Maybe the phone is bigger?

As for the RAM, I don't think 3 or 4 will be a big difference if you're wondering about the XR, it will be a fantastic phone and although I am going for the Max most of my recommendations to people have been for the XR.
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For the last decade or so, every article about OLED display technology has said that it saves power vs. LCD. And yet, now that OLEDs are actually a thing, it's the opposite? I don't understand.

When you have a very bright and vibrant operating system, where a lot of the design relies on white as well as offering very bright displays, OLED actually will be more power hungry than anything. To make it efficient you need to be able to use the OLED advantage of shutting off power to pixels with black. MacOS should not have been the first to get the dark theme.
 
Not impressed. Android phone has 4,000mAh battery at the same or lower price.
That’s a dumb comparison.
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Honestly can't say Android is less efficient anymore, for sure 5 years ago it was but nowadays it seems fine. My Note9 is a daily media device through the day for background music and video, about 10 hours of my day (8 hours streaming audio on cellular and 2 hours video streaming on cellular). I get home with it at 60%+. My X's could never dream of such good efficiency
That’s longevity, not efficiency.
 
I thought OLED screens were more power efficient than LCDs because they don't require a backlight? This sounds like a crock.

Correct. The issue isn’t oled vs led. The issue is the number of pixels that need to be driven. For each pixel on the display you need display driver circuitry, RAM, etc. You also have to perform many more calculations, and every time one of those wires transitions from a 1 to a 0 or vice versa, in order to decide what color to make that pixel, it consumes energy.
 
That’s a dumb comparison.
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That’s longevity, not efficiency.

Seems like efficiency when the same process with an X equal 10% battery remaining in under 5, sometimes 4, hours. Battery use per hour (in mah) between both of those devices is less on the Note
 
Unless I'm mistaken, my 8+ has 3GB and iOS 12 is perfectly fine. I have a feeling XR with the LCD will not want more RAM. But I could be mistaken. Its not like I plan to return 1GB to the store. Ha.
I agree that the 3GB will be perfectly fine, just like the 2GB will be perfectly fine, but I think there is a significant difference between the 3 and 4GBs of RAM.
 
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I have a feeling the battery in the Max will be plenty for me but how does the Note 9 fit a 4000mAh battery? I know following this will be comments about being too big and past issues but surely they learned their lesson. Maybe the phone is bigger?

As for the RAM, I don't think 3 or 4 will be a big difference if you're wondering about the XR, it will be a fantastic phone and although I am going for the Max most of my recommendations to people have been for the XR.
they have bigger battery but android battery management sucks. I used to loose 20-30% overnight just standby when i had a nexus
never had this issue with ios
 
The most important owner-facing spec is the resolution of the display. Display resolution matters.
Why? Because the information (textual and/or media) is unchanged across physical displays.
Apps "write" to a virtual display abstraction.
This display abstraction is mapped by the underlying hardware, and is independent of the physical display size.
So? Resolution matters.
And, here we are:
  1. ("Budget" Max) Xr: 1792-by-828-pixel resolution at 326 ppi (6.1-inch)
  2. ("Lowly" deprecated) SE: 1136‑by‑640‑pixel resolution at 326 ppi (4-inch)
  3. ("Pricey") Xs: 2,436-by-1,125-pixel resolution at 458 ppi (5.8-inch)
  4. ("Pricey" Max) Xs Max: 2,688-by-1,242 pixel resolution at 458 ppi (6.5-inch)
 
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On paper, the battery life between the Xs and Max is pretty big between the 2 but in reality it will depend on how each person use their phone. For my use, I don't think I will hit near 3GB Ram but good to know the size for all 3 models.
 
For the last decade or so, every article about OLED display technology has said that it saves power vs. LCD. And yet, now that OLEDs are actually a thing, it's the opposite? I don't understand.

because analyst and companies overhype things sometimes in order to sell units
 
Seems like efficiency when the same process with an X equal 10% battery remaining in under 5, sometimes 4, hours. Battery use per hour (in mah) between both of those devices is less on the Note

Your note 9 has a bigger battery, but let’s assume for the sake of argument that you are right that it uses less mah per hour. That’s still not efficiency.

I leave my Porsche idling in the driveway playing mp3s on the radio and it burns less fuel per hour than my Toyota which is driving down the highway also playing mp3s. So clearly the Porsche is more efficient?
 
I have a feeling the battery in the Max will be plenty for me but how does the Note 9 fit a 4000mAh battery? I know following this will be comments about being too big and past issues but surely they learned their lesson. Maybe the phone is bigger?

As for the RAM, I don't think 3 or 4 will be a big difference if you're wondering about the XR, it will be a fantastic phone and although I am going for the Max most of my recommendations to people have been for the XR.
agreed. You probably don’t even need 4G in the XR.
 
Your note 9 has a bigger battery, but let’s assume for the sake of argument that you are right that it uses less mah per hour. That’s still not efficiency.

I leave my Porsche idling in the driveway playing mp3s on the radio and it burns less fuel per hour than my Toyota which is driving down the highway also playing mp3s. So clearly the Porsche is more efficient?

That's a great example of what I didn't say. Consuming the same content with an X, as I've had to figure out since they both are secondary background phones, kills the 2700 mah battery in about 4-5 hours. It takes about 20 hours to do the same on the Note9. Lets say it takes 17 for the Note and 6 for the X with my exact same workload, for a worst/best scenario: the iPhone consumes battery at a rate of 540 mah per hour, the Note would consume its battery at a rate of 235 mah per hour. That's efficiency, not longevity.
 
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That's a great example of what I didn't say. Consuming the same content with an X, as I've had to figure out since they both are secondary background phones, kills the 2700 mah battery in about 4-5 hours. It takes about 20 hours to do the same on the Note9. Lets say it takes 17 for the Note and 6 for the X with my exact same workload, for a worst/best scenario: the iPhone consumes battery at a rate of 540 mah per hour, the Note would consume its battery at a rate of 235 mah per hour. That's efficiency, not longevity.

Give me a break. In dreamland you are getting 20 hours of continuous use on the Note9.
 
Wait, is the article implying OLED is “power hungrier” than LED or is it correctly pointing out the power implications of managing so many more pixels or is it unsure so it is hedging its bets?
But... OLED is more power hungry at high brightness settings than LED.
 
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Give me a break. In dreamland you are getting 20 hours of continuous use on the Note9.

I've seen several posts on here of people getting a day plus of usage on iPhones. Just because you don't believe it or see it doesn't mean it's not possible to happen. Screen off streaming music most of the time is all these phones do for me and that's what I get. When I daily drove it as a primary I get about 10-12 because I was doing more with it.
 
How in the world does the XR have better rated battery life than the XS Max considering the battery is smaller and it has a LCD screen?
 
And I was hoping for a 4.000 mAH battery like the Note 9 with a smaller screen. Perhaps in 2090 :rolleyes:
Initial reviews have shown that the XS Max outperforms the Note 9 in the battery department anyway:
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