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Now the Xs Max offers more space between the notches, does this mean you can now have the battery percentage displayed?
 
Someone said all they did was zoom the UI, so no battery percentage and still just six rows of icons.
 
Now the Xs Max offers more space between the notches, does this mean you can now have the battery percentage displayed?

That would be nice. In fact, it'd be nice to see some custom XS Max tweaks other than landscape mode. Hoping for a pro edition next year with apple stylus built in.
 
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It’s obviously not out of laziness, rather a design decision.
Why is that obvious?

If it’s a design decision to have the same number of rows of icons, for example, as my 6+ despite a much larger and better screen, it strikes me as a pretty poor one.

What are the upsides to such a decision, design-wise?
 
Well, lazy.
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It’s obviously not out of laziness, rather a design decision.

It's well and truly lazy on Apple's part. Until recently, not all of Apple's own apps were optimised for the X.

They could have offered scrollable icons/text with the X if space was a problem.

With the Xs Max, there's more than enough space to display network/battery info but all they did was scale up the X screen size. A custom UI would have been the icing on the the cake.
 
Why is that obvious?

If it’s a design decision to have the same number of rows of icons, for example, as my 6+ despite a much larger and better screen, it strikes me as a pretty poor one.

What are the upsides to such a decision, design-wise?

Maybe I shouldn’t have said obvious in general. But to me it’s obvious that they’re going for keeping things clean, simple and unified across devices.

Well, lazy.
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It's well and truly lazy on Apple's part. Until recently, not all of Apple's own apps were optimised for the X.

They could have offered scrollable icons/text with the X if space was a problem.

With the Xs Max, there's more than enough space to display network/battery info but all they did was scale up the X screen size. A custom UI would have been the icing on the the cake.

If it’s a design decision that makes it lazy? When you think about ALL the work that went into these phones, all the insane processing stuff they showed on stage, you think the lack of battery percentage is lazy? You truly don’t understand if that’s the case.
 
If it’s a design decision that makes it lazy
Yes, its lazy, or not caring about the smallest details like they used too. When the X came out, there was plenty of examples of how Apple could have put the percentage on the main display, but instead chose not to re-work the interface slightly. Now with the larger phone, they chose not to fully take advantage of the increased screen real estate but rather just increase he magnification - that's lazy.
 
Yes, its lazy, or not caring about the smallest details like they used too. When the X came out, there was plenty of examples of how Apple could have put the percentage on the main display, but instead chose not to re-work the interface slightly. Now with the larger phone, they chose not to fully take advantage of the increased screen real estate but rather just increase he magnification - that's lazy.

They made a choice based on design.
 
Yes, its lazy, or not caring about the smallest details like they used too. When the X came out, there was plenty of examples of how Apple could have put the percentage on the main display, but instead chose not to re-work the interface slightly. Now with the larger phone, they chose not to fully take advantage of the increased screen real estate but rather just increase he magnification - that's lazy.
I think they are not showing the battery % on purpose so people don't obsess over it. I don't really agree with that atleast we should have a toggle to turn it on and off because not everyone obsess over such thing. They did take more advantage with the screen size with the Xs Max in landscape mode which is a good step, the 5.8" inch still doesn't have a good size exploitation but I guess they need "features" to make people buy the Max.
 
Move the wifi icon over next to the clock, boom, battery percentage can fit next to the battery.
 
Yes, the choice was not to do the extra work, i.e., lazy ;)

Nah, disagree. You honestly think with all the work they put into design, Apple who likes to be as clean as possible, simplify options as much as possible, looked at this, and said “% would be cool but we don’t feel like coding that in”?
 
Nah, disagree. You honestly think with all the work they put into design, Apple who likes to be as clean as possible, simplify options as much as possible, looked at this, and said “% would be cool but we don’t feel like coding that in”?
If that's the case, why have the percentage on the other phones they sell?
 
Maybe I shouldn’t have said obvious in general. But to me it’s obvious that they’re going for keeping things clean, simple and unified across devices.
What’s dirty and complicated about a UI that takes advantage of the screen to the fullest extent possible?

Why keep things unified across devices when the devices aren’t the same? They don’t do this when it comes to landscaping some apps, why do they do this when there’s room for more icons and more information on the screen?
 
If that's the case, why have the percentage on the other phones they sell?

Those are older phones with older designs. Still with the home button, control center accessed from sliding upwards, etc.

Also all 3 new phones seem to have improved battery life. I feel that battery life is going to be even less of an issue.
 
Those are older phones with older designs. Still with the home button, control center accessed from sliding upwards, etc.

Also all 3 new phones seem to have improved battery life. I feel that battery life is going to be even less of an issue.
Not by a lot considering Android phones have much better battery life.
 
What’s dirty and complicated about a UI that takes advantage of the screen to the fullest extent possible?

Why keep things unified across devices when the devices aren’t the same? They don’t do this when it comes to landscaping some apps, why do they do this when there’s room for more icons and more information on the screen?

I agree - and I’m not excusing it - I’m merely explaining what would be most logical seeing how Apple operates. We could look at many examples of things Apple has done for design that has affected functionality.
 
Those are older phones with older designs. Still with the home button, control center accessed from sliding upwards, etc.

Also all 3 new phones seem to have improved battery life. I feel that battery life is going to be even less of an issue.
They're selling phones running the latest iOS, yet on some phones they have the battery, and others they don't. Inconsistent, in my view, and many people like/want the battery indicator. This has nothing to do with apple wanting to hide the value because of great battery life but rather choosing not to do the extra work
 
I think what’s most logical is that Apple just didn’t want to take the time to do it. That’s the definition of lazy.

Everything else feels like rationalization.

Now, if there’s some technical reason it couldn’t be done, fine. If there’s some coherent design decision why the extra space wasn’t better utilized, I’m open to hearing it. But, “we know they’re careful about this, so...” does seem like excusing it, to me.
 
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I may be wrong, but I read they kept it at a 3x (like the Plus) to avoid apps having to reworked for the larger screen. I agree though, some changes to the Max would be nice, but I think they pushed all UI changes to iOS 13.
 
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