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iPhone XS Max Ranks 'Among the Best' in DxOMark’s Selfie Camera Test, but Loses Points for Low-Light Performance
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It is more separated, but incorrectly, ie. not what real camera with wide open lens would do. The fencing to the left should be as sharp as objects face, when at the same distance from the lens...
I just remembered a quote from some movie... “you look so much better in the dark...”
On a serious note.. I hate portrait mode on iPhone. While I do like bokeh effect, the quality of the image of the person is degraded quite a bit. If I want bokeh, I use my A7ii.
Ignoring color because I think everyone has their own opinion on that, this one example of the pixel photo is far worse that the iPhone. I'm assuming the Pixel 3 is improved compared to this Pixel 2. The glaring thing would be for this example, the iPhone processes it far better than the pixel 2, yet they're pretty close in score..
The photo attached shows the area of concerned in case you didn't realize at first glance.
I do find it entertaining to click on the links and look at all their test selfie shots. Would it be difficult to find some people that smile/look presentable for a photo compared to the 'I just accidentally took a photo with my phone' face.
The photo attached shows the area of concerned in case you didn't realize at first glance.
I do find it entertaining to click on the links and look at all their test selfie shots. Would it be difficult to find some people that smile/look presentable for a photo compared to the 'I just accidentally took a photo with my phone' face.
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No. The Pixel's photo looks like a gaussian blur, with no depth.
Apple wins this time IMO, although the narrower angle of the camera. The blur is more realistic, the colors are more natural, although having a slight orange tint, and the dynamic range of course is better.
Nobody's testing it because it's such an oddly specific niche circumstance that it provides no value to the average consumer. 15 minutes of 4K on a smartphone?
Whoever wrote this needs to look up what bokeh is. It is certainly not visible in either image.
iPhones have always sucked for low light level performance, and even moderate non bright lighting. My Xs Max is an improvement, but still pretty crappy even in moderate lighting. I have a ton of pictures which are just very grainy, kind of bums me out that's all I have to look at in the future.
These tests and eventual threads are becoming silly. It's not like they're helping you find a phone with a great camera. At this point it just confirms that phones with excellent cameras all have excellent scores. Probably any camera in the top 10 would be a fantastic camera to carry around in your pocket.
For the record, I'd say the same (and believe I did when the Max was king of the hill) if Apple was on top.
For the record, I'd say the same (and believe I did when the Max was king of the hill) if Apple was on top.
Oh joy, a thread about selfies. I’m sure people won’t use this to say stupid things about young people.
The Google bokeh is far worse though. The railing right next to him should not be so out of focus.
I'm not sure I like the iPhone's liver-failure-yellow white balance, but I don't think either phone does a great Bokeh effect. If they were truly creating a 3D map of the scene, they'd keep the fence in focus for a short distance in front of the face and for quite a long way behind it. But the iphone only blurs behind while the pixel just blurs everything it detects as 'not face'.
We're just going to pretend that whatever is going on with the subject's shoulder in the Pixel 2 image is not there? Also why did MacRumors post pics from the Pixel 2 and not the 3?
Also a blurry background from short depth of field is not the same thing as bokeh. Bokeh is the more subjective description of the nature of the blur shapes and blobs of light created by different lenses.
Also a blurry background from short depth of field is not the same thing as bokeh. Bokeh is the more subjective description of the nature of the blur shapes and blobs of light created by different lenses.
As a photographer, I disagree.
The Pixel photo is dark and dreary, absorbing less light and ultimately taking a very good, yet bleak photo.
However, Apple's XS Max photo you can clearly see a more vibrant color palette, indicative of a much more open shutter and more light coming in. Although the photo is fuzzier, it is lighter and I have a better emotional reaction to the exposure from the iPhone than I do the Pixel.
If this picture alone made me choose which phone to buy, I'm buying Apple. Who wants a camera that through software exchanges light for clarity? Sometimes you need it to be a bit fuzzy to get better lighting. You'd do that with your camera settings manually, however, they don't let you do that.
I think the Pixel photo looks dark and dreary.
It's amazing how drastically different I react inside to a photo shot on the same day and same location, yet two different cameras.
The Pixel photo is dark and dreary, absorbing less light and ultimately taking a very good, yet bleak photo.
However, Apple's XS Max photo you can clearly see a more vibrant color palette, indicative of a much more open shutter and more light coming in. Although the photo is fuzzier, it is lighter and I have a better emotional reaction to the exposure from the iPhone than I do the Pixel.
If this picture alone made me choose which phone to buy, I'm buying Apple. Who wants a camera that through software exchanges light for clarity? Sometimes you need it to be a bit fuzzy to get better lighting. You'd do that with your camera settings manually, however, they don't let you do that.
I think the Pixel photo looks dark and dreary.
It's amazing how drastically different I react inside to a photo shot on the same day and same location, yet two different cameras.
right, the pixel 2 overdid it so well, separating the person from the background, that it happily and uniformly bokehed anything out of the way apart from the guy, even objects within his exact same distance ...
that portrait looks so fake and photoshopped, not photographed
They need a reference shot from DSLR for comparison. Not a fan of the hepatitis skin tone and color oversaturation.
DxOMark hasn't been trustworthy of late either when devices with different individual scores lead to same combined score as the case with iPhone Xr and Google Pixel 3.
iPhone Xr
Photo 103
Video 96
Combined 101
Google Pixel 3
Photo 103
Video 98
Combined 101
DxOMark hasn't been trustworthy of late either when devices with different individual scores lead to same combined score as the case with iPhone Xr and Google Pixel 3.
iPhone Xr
Photo 103
Video 96
Combined 101
Google Pixel 3
Photo 103
Video 98
Combined 101
I’ve no interest in selfies. I’m more impressed with the score for the rear camera. Second only to the Mateo 20 and p20 pro both of which have 3 rear cameras.
Why oh why don't they include a photo of the same "selfie" taken with a top of the line professional SLR so we can actually compare.
This (The article) means nothing without one.
Should be the same.
This (The article) means nothing without one.
Should be the same.
Machine learning for portrait improvement is such a game changer. It's only going to get better.