iPhone6, worst camera experience

[Stevessvt]

The app Manual Photo Camera normally I think $2.99 is free today if anyone wants.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/manual-photo-camera/id931239268?mt=8

 

[Meister]

I have a Panasonic GM-1 and Sony A7S for astrophotography.

The A7s has amazing reviews! Damn I'd like one of those, too.

I don't understand how you can endure the crappy shots from cellphone cameras after using a A7s.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

not everyone with a camera is a photographer

A flute with no holes is not a flute. A donut with no hole is a Danish

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I hear ya, I wish I was better too, I have been trying the app Camera+ it has lots of features I know nothing about

also a lot of photography is done in the editing stages which again I know nothing about

Cortex Camera is excellent in some low-light situations.

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I have a Panasonic GM-1 and Sony A7S for astrophotography.

Gonna keep up on the comet landing tomorrow?

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First of all, the OP is the worst photographer in the world!
even if you had a $100K Hasselblad, you couldn't take a decent photo.

try learning photography first, then come back.

That's a little harsh. Did some bully steal your lunch money yesterday?

 

[kalebnate]

Wow the iPhone 6 pics are so much better.

But these are all bad pics though. Sometimes the user needs to learn how to take good pics too.

Ye old folk just love harassing users posting anything negative about your dear apple eh ? It's clear that some of the photos are distorted and look like a wet painting, why are you in such denial ?

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OP I think this is the improved software they talked about during the reveal, it's supposed to make pictures look great with less noise, but while assuming you will take shots with good lighting and no zoom.

 

[Yeezus.]

The problem is, you needed to buy a 6 plus. The reason your pictures look like that is because you settled for second best.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Ye old folk just love harassing users posting anything negative about your dear apple eh ? It's clear that some of the photos are distorted and look like a wet painting, why are you in such denial ?

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I have a great ophthalmologist referral for you.

 

[lordofthereef]

A donut with no hole is a Danish[

Plenty of donuts without holes...

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

How about some true side-by-side comparison?

Shot with the 5s

Shot with the 6+

The problem is, you needed to buy a 6 plus. The reason your pictures look like that is because you settled for second best.

False. According to the professional photographer in the above link, photos taken with the 6 and the 6+ are equally impressive. That's because OIS doesn't necessarily make a significant real-world difference as camera shake isn't a given, as illustrated in the following example:

iPhone 6, no OIS

iPhone 6 Plus with OIS

 

[kalebnate]

How about some true side-by-side comparison?

Shot with the 5s
Image

Shot with the 6+
Image

Image



False. According to the professional photographer in the above link, photos taken with the 6 and the 6+ are equally impressive. That's because OIS doesn't necessarily make a significant real-world difference as camera shake isn't a given, as illustrated in the following example:

iPhone 6, no OIS
Image

iPhone 6 Plus with OIS
Image

I'm not sure how this is of any relevance to OP. They shared a bad experience with their camera, which can be seen the samples they provided. How does posting a comparison of different samples help them ? Or are you just trying to show that they're wrong to think their camera's quality is bad, according to their OWN preferences ?

 

[JayLenochiniMac]

I'm not sure how this is of any relevance to OP. They shared a bad experience with their camera, which can be seen the samples they provided. How does posting a comparison of different samples help them ? Or are you just trying to show that they're wrong to think their camera's quality is bad, according to their OWN preferences ?

Previously the OP didn't provide any side by side comparison but I now see he's updated his post. However, one of the comparisons actually show the 6 giving less blurry image compared to the 5s so that throws his claim out of the window.

 

[Donoban]

Previously the OP didn't provide any side by side comparison but I now see he's updated his post. However, one of the comparisons actually show the 6 giving less blurry image compared to the 5s so that throws his claim out of the window.

Agreed. The 6 is superior to the 5s in those side by side comparisons.

 

[Gathomblipoob]

Plenty of donuts without holes...

Not a Caddyshack fan, I take it?

 

[Megalobyte]

Not a Caddyshack fan, I take it?

You forgot to end with nanananananananananna

 

[lordofthereef]

Not a Caddyshack fan, I take it?

Apparently not.

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I'm not sure how this is of any relevance to OP. They shared a bad experience with their camera, which can be seen the samples they provided. How does posting a comparison of different samples help them ? Or are you just trying to show that they're wrong to think their camera's quality is bad, according to their OWN preferences ?

I asked, but never got an answer from the op, whether the pictures he posted were cherry picked or typical results.

If they were cherry picked I would suggest he simply gets over it. I am positive one could cherry pic bad photos in just about any device. If they are typical results, something is obviously amiss with his device. Or there is some other outside factor immeasurable to us. The iphone 6 camera is not worse than the 5. That is simple fact.

 

[I7guy]

The camera on the 6 is better than the 5s, albeit by a small amount. If you want studio quality in 100% of your shots, you need the right equipment. Otherwise you are dealing with variability. I think the 6 camera and software is better than the note 4, because as a photographer I appreciate that it blows out less of the highlights.

 

[Zwhaler]

OP has a point. The weird noise reduction "feature" makes the images look worse in a lot of instances. I would have preferred more grain because then it doesn't smear the image. In the side by side comparison, the 5 looked better to me than the 6 except for the third one, but all 3 of the sixes in the side by side had the smearing effect.

 

[packers85]

The blotchy effect is most noticeable on skin tone. Below you will see two photos comparing the terrible 6 camera to just the 4s. Yes, I zoomed in to magnify the differences.

iPhone 6 mirror selfie
http://i.imgur.com/F1t30ng.jpg

iPhone 4s mirror selfie
http://i.imgur.com/WMkLTMO.jpg

 

[Small White Car]

iPhone 6 mirror selfie
http://i.imgur.com/F1t30ng.jpg

iPhone 4s mirror selfie
http://i.imgur.com/WMkLTMO.jpg

Great example. The iPhone 6 is the first time an iPhone camera has taken a step backwards.

Doesn't mean the camera itself is worse, but the way they've changed the software makes the end result worse in many cases. The 3rd party apps are somewhat better but even they aren't entirely free from this. I suspect some of this is built into that photo-processing part of the A8 that they spoke about.

It's a result of Apple's zero-tolence policy towards gain noise. It's absurd. Of course you want to lower the noise, but killing it across the board leads to this effect which is much, much worse.

 

[thekev]

The blotchy effect is most noticeable on skin tone. Below you will see two photos comparing the terrible 6 camera to just the 4s. Yes, I zoomed in to magnify the differences.

iPhone 6 mirror selfie
http://i.imgur.com/F1t30ng.jpg

iPhone 4s mirror selfie
http://i.imgur.com/WMkLTMO.jpg

Huh... I wouldn't have expected that. It could be partly the software stage. I noticed the 6 photo has lower noise, yet the lack of noise is a downside there because you see banding. Noise reduction always costs you some detail, so the image would be better with a lighter noise reduction algorithm. It also has too much sharpening, possibly to compensate for the heavy handed processing of the prior stage. You can tell by the halo in the hair. Basically you can sharpen by taking the inverse of an anti - aliasing operation, but both can result in some edge reversals, which tend to be worse with non-linearly encoded data.

Anyway that's nerd talk for today.

 

[packers85]

Great example. The iPhone 6 is the first time an iPhone camera has taken a step backwards.

Doesn't mean the camera itself is worse, but the way they've changed the software makes the end result worse in many cases. The 3rd party apps are somewhat better but even they aren't entirely free from this. I suspect some of this is built into that photo-processing part of the A8 that they spoke about.

It's a result of Apple's zero-tolence policy towards gain noise. It's absurd. Of course you want to lower the noise, but killing it across the board leads to this effect which is much, much worse.

It's ridiculous. I can't get a refund/exchange from AT&T because it has been more than 14 days. Ugh, I'm just furious that I paid so much for an inferior product to the 5s. I've had it for about 26 days and just want my money back at this point.

The Apple Store was dumbfounded by issue. We tried to set the phone up as new and the phone produced the same exact problems. I don't know what to do at this point.

 

[Small White Car]

I don't know what to do at this point.

I would suggest playing with some of the 3rd party apps like 'Manual,' 'Camera+,' and '645 PRO.'

(Particularly 645 PRO. I've found that setting the file size larger in that app leads to some pretty decent results.)

While they're not perfect I find that they're better than the stock app.

 

[Gmcube]

I would suggest playing with some of the 3rd party apps like 'Manual,' 'Camera+,' and '645 PRO.'

(Particularly 645 PRO. I've found that setting the file size larger in that app leads to some pretty decent results.)

While they're not perfect I find that they're better than the stock app.

None of that matters since they are still using the same source images. Until some app circumvents the processing apple does automatically we're still going to be left with these smudgy mossiacs for photos.

 

[heisenberg123]

None of that matters since they are still using the same source images. Until some app circumvents the processing apple does automatically we're still going to be left with these smudgy mossiacs for photos.

I dont understand what you mean by same source image?

 

[Apple fanboy]

Friend of mine has a Nikon D300 DSLR. I've never seen a good photo of his.

Personally I don't use my iPhone 6+ camera that much, but I find it is better than the iPhone 5 camera I had.

 

[pdxa4]

None of that matters since they are still using the same source images. Until some app circumvents the processing apple does automatically we're still going to be left with these smudgy mossiacs for photos.

Yup I agree, I'm hoping that Apple will address this issue on a new software version.

I've been disappointed by my 6 plus camera so far. Depending on the lighting etc sometimes it does appear smudged when one zooms into the photo.

On a somewhat separate note, have any of you noticed how the camera app reacts if you access it from the locked screen vs opening the app when the camera is unlocked. To me if I have the phone unlocked first and open the camera app then it appears to take better photos, and have less of the OIS waviness.