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nouveau-apple

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When using the iPhone at night the phones lowest setting is always too bright. I think most people would agree. So what could be done to solve this and why hasn't it been addressed?
 

I7guy

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I can't say most people would agree and I don't agree. You can reduce contrast and white point; turn auto brightness off and set brightness at the lowest level. You can use the zoom controller to set a low light filter as well. If it is still too bright after all of these; you can put a sheet of neutral density photographers gel on the screen.
 

nouveau-apple

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How does putting a sheet on the screen stop the iPhone from being too bright? It's still too bright. Using up unnecessary battery power.

There is no dim mode or night mode on the iPhone.
 

I7guy

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You didn't say in your original post you cared about power consumption; you can web search a neutral density filter and see what it does.

And yes in iOS 8 there is a low light filter under accessibility.
 

gewawd

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When I still use my iPhone at night I either use the full screen low light zoom filter to further dim the iPhone 's lowest brightness setting or invert colors so white backgrounds become black.

I also have them as my triple click accessibility shortcuts for easy access.
 

I7guy

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Iphone under ios8 is too bright. Nobody should have to get an ND filter to solve it.

"Too bright" is such a broad statement, that it can't be agreed with. Too bright when? In the sun? In a movie theater? As sunking said the screen can be adjusted so it can barely be seen in a dark room.

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Iphone under ios8 is too bright. Nobody should have to get an ND filter to solve it.

If that's what it takes you do it...or else get a different phone.
 

cynics

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I agree with your for iPads. I hate being on a long flight and the person next to me using an iPad while I'm trying to sleep. Years ago I was on flight next to lady that was wearing sunglasses and adjusting the brightness up because she couldn't get it low enough otherwise. lol.

With Android I used a 3rd party app to dim it further over the stock settings. It was just a screen overlay.

With iOS devices I've gotten used too it. I don't know if its just my particular iOS device but I wish they got as dim as my Macs.

This is a very minor issue for me though. Not overly concerned with it.
 

nouveau-apple

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I can reduce the brightness of my 6+ so that I can barely see the screen.

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When I still use my iPhone at night I either use the full screen low light zoom filter to further dim the iPhone 's lowest brightness setting or invert colors so white backgrounds become black.

I also have them as my triple click accessibility shortcuts for easy access.

That is too much work. Why invert the colors so that everything looks funky? The phone should have a straight up night mode.

If we all dimmed our screens now, it would become pretty dim. But somehow at night, it's too bright.

It would be great for theaters and late night browsing.
 

I7guy

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I agree with your for iPads. I hate being on a long flight and the person next to me using an iPad while I'm trying to sleep. Years ago I was on flight next to lady that was wearing sunglasses and adjusting the brightness up because she couldn't get it low enough otherwise. lol.

With Android I used a 3rd party app to dim it further over the stock settings. It was just a screen overlay.

With iOS devices I've gotten used too it. I don't know if its just my particular iOS device but I wish they got as dim as my Macs.

This is a very minor issue for me though. Not overly concerned with it.

With the low light filter you can dim the 5s so that it barely can be seen in a dark room; as well as reduce white point and increase contrast.
 

cynics

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With the low light filter you can dim the 5s so that it barely can be seen in a dark room; as well as reduce white point and increase contrast.

Admittedly I didnt know that was a feature until I read up. Very cool. I really wish the settings were organized a little differently.

That doesn't help me on a flight or in a theater or something though. I can't lean over "Excuse me if you could just goto settings, accessibilities, then turn zoom on, now I need you to triple tap the screen with three fingers, ok now choose a filter....etc". Might as well just smack the device out of the persons hands..."stop it!" :D

EDIT: The low light setting in accessibilities does show something interesting. That is a filter over the screen, its gray like an ad popping up in safari. This most likely means that the LCD backlight at its lowest setting is at its technical limit. Dimming from that point has to be done with color manipulation.
 

I7guy

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Admittedly I didnt know that was a feature until I read up. Very cool. I really wish the settings were organized a little differently.

That doesn't help me on a flight or in a theater or something though. I can't lean over "Excuse me if you could just goto settings, accessibilities, then turn zoom on, now I need you to triple tap the screen with three fingers, ok now choose a filter....etc". Might as well just smack the device out of the persons hands..."stop it!" :D

EDIT: The low light setting in accessibilities does show something interesting. That is a filter over the screen, its gray like an ad popping up in safari. This most likely means that the LCD backlight at its lowest setting is at its technical limit. Dimming from that point has to be done with color manipulation.

That feature is very handy especially since I have it hooked to the home button triple click.

As far as the inconsiderate people with full on brightness on an airplane, can't they be android users as well. :)
 

cynics

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That feature is very handy especially since I have it hooked to the home button triple click.

As far as the inconsiderate people with full on brightness on an airplane, can't they be android users as well. :)

Uhm....an Android user in first class?!? Hahaha ooookaayyy....

jk

It certainly can be an Android user however when it comes to tablets iPads dominate the market. I didn't mean to make it sounds like its ONLY the iPad or iPhone just that if iPad and iPhones got dimmer it practically fix the problem for me. :)

If Nexus tablets got dimmer I would never know about it because I never see them.
 

eyoungren

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The problem is blue light.

The screen looks the same at night as it does in the day. There is enough blue light in the screen at night as there is at noon outside.

f.lux, which is an app on Mac/Windows AND iPhone solves this by reducing the blue light of the screen at night. It makes the color warmer so it's not so blinding.

The problem with it on the iPhone is that Apple won't let it in to the App store.

So, you need to jailbreak if you want to use f.lux.

If you use f.lux on your Mac then you may already know what I am talking about.

See the difference…
flux-ab.jpg
 

T5BRICK

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When using the iPhone at night the phones lowest setting is always too bright. I think most people would agree.

I disagree, but hey, that's not new. Typically you post threads with broad, sweeping statements to get attention. There really isn't any other excuse.

So what could be done to solve this and why hasn't it been addressed?

Use the method suggested and set a lower brightness level in the accessibility settings, it has been addressed.

http://lifehacker.com/toggle-your-iphones-brightness-with-a-home-button-trip-1651329242

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F.lux is rad. I use it on all of my computers and it's pretty much the only reason I jailbreak anymore. I've been going without for a while though.
 

BigMcGuire

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Jan 10, 2012
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So, you need to jailbreak if you want to use f.lux.

If you use f.lux on your Mac then you may already know what I am talking about.

See the difference…
Image

Is there a noticeable difference in battery life using this?

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When using the iPhone at night the phones lowest setting is always too bright. I think most people would agree. So what could be done to solve this and why hasn't it been addressed?

I also believe phones are too bright. I use my phone a lot before I go to bed (apparently this is bad) - and I find even on the lowest setting it is way too bright. I love the usability outdoors but I'd also like an indoor setting where I could do something like FLUX. I've tried some of the Accessibility settings but they don't darken it enough or make it too dull to be useful. (Settings --> Accessibility --> Increase Contrast) --- I have Darken Colors ON but the other 2 off. If you haven't tried these, I recommend it.
 

C DM

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That is too much work. Why invert the colors so that everything looks funky? The phone should have a straight up night mode.

If we all dimmed our screens now, it would become pretty dim. But somehow at night, it's too bright.

It would be great for theaters and late night browsing.
So is it about just visual brightness or battery savings, you seem to refer to one or the other when it's convenient to try to move away from suggestions that were provided.

If all of this was just to make a point that some sort of dark/night mode would be great to have, then just say so from he beginning--hardly a new idea that has been suggested and discussed by many in many threads already. So what's new?
 

I7guy

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So is it about just visual brightness or battery savings, you seem to refer to one or the other when it's convenient to try to move away from suggestions that were provided.

If all of this was just to make a point that some sort of dark/night mode would be great to have, then just say so from he beginning--hardly a new idea that has been suggested and discussed by many in many threads already. So what's new?

The lifehacker link listed above IS the way to achieve a day night mode without jail breaking.

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The problem is blue light.

The screen looks the same at night as it does in the day. There is enough blue light in the screen at night as there is at noon outside.

f.lux, which is an app on Mac/Windows AND iPhone solves this by reducing the blue light of the screen at night. It makes the color warmer so it's not so blinding.

The problem with it on the iPhone is that Apple won't let it in to the App store.

So, you need to jailbreak if you want to use f.lux.

If you use f.lux on your Mac then you may already know what I am talking about.

See the difference…
Image

Wow, my 5s does not have that blue tint. Is that due to j/b or flux?
 

eyoungren

macrumors Penryn
Aug 31, 2011
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Wow, my 5s does not have that blue tint. Is that due to j/b or flux?

Blue light is naturally occurring and is predominate in LCDs. It's at it's highest at noon outside. Even though you may not see a "blue" tint in your screen the blue light is still there. f.lux just reduces it.

f.lux does not work on non-jailbroken devices so if your device is not jailbroken then it may just be the calibration of your display.
 

nouveau-apple

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Sep 29, 2014
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Admittedly I didnt know that was a feature until I read up. Very cool. I really wish the settings were organized a little differently.

That doesn't help me on a flight or in a theater or something though. I can't lean over "Excuse me if you could just goto settings, accessibilities, then turn zoom on, now I need you to triple tap the screen with three fingers, ok now choose a filter....etc". Might as well just smack the device out of the persons hands..."stop it!" :D

EDIT: The low light setting in accessibilities does show something interesting. That is a filter over the screen, its gray like an ad popping up in safari. This most likely means that the LCD backlight at its lowest setting is at its technical limit. Dimming from that point has to be done with color manipulation.

WOW. I'm not using it at night but this might actually work. How come nobody knows about this? It is too much work though.
 
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