Oh it does.. so I’m wondering how does the app stay “open” in the background? Is it the thing where Apple allows apps to stay running as long as your phone is changing geolocations? Otherwise, I believe all apps get killed after around 10 minutes.
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iPhone's Car Key Feature Now Supports Select 2022 Genesis and Kia Vehicles [Updated]
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Apple allows apps to declare a Core Bluetooth background execution mode to allow apps to perform actions when a Bluetooth connection is made or broken.
Can CarKit be installed after-market? I haven't heard of a company announcing it yet, but is it even possible or does Apple only work with existing auto makers? I honestly want this more than CarPlay. My wireless iPhone mount with BT works pretty good in lieu of CarPlay, but I hate carrying keys. My house key has been wireless through HomeKit for many years and I only carry my car key now.
I have a 2021 540i; with an iPhone 12 Pro Max I would say the digital key is "finicky," sometimes it works right away, sometimes I have to make quite a few passes to get it to unlock the door. No rhyme or reason, can't figure out if there is a specific way to hold or approach the iPhone to get it to work right away. Also, a Pro Max doesn't it in the charger well if you have any kind of case (though it works as a digital ignition key if you put it head-in). Wouldn't trust it for long trips, but for going to the gym I can now leave my car fob and my wallet at home (using digital drivers license).
edit: OK, I went to my BMW dealership and spoke with their tech Genius (not to be confused with an Apple Genius). Anyway, it seems that the activation point for using an iPhone as a digital key is where the Apple is on the back, in the middle of the phone; not the top edge of the phone as seen in most pictures. So I tried that and it worked much better.
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The Tesla app. All I ever carry with me now is my Watch and iPhone.
I just prefer the CarPlay maps and texting. Personal preference.
Until all the plastics in the engine compartment start to deteriorate from heat requiring an expensive repair. That's the biggest reason I backed out of buying a 2021 BMW back in October. I had paid for the car in full and was supposed to pick it up at 5pm and decided to cancel the deal. It's no secret that the build quality on those cars has decided over recent years.
Previous Accord I owned was a 2014. When I traded it in last May with 115,000 miles, the only things it needed in all those years of owning it was oil, tires, brakes and a battery. Not happening with a BMW. Also the depreciation on BMWs is beyond ridiculous. I bought a 2019 Accord Sport in May for around $20,000. I sold it on October for $28,200. I tool the BMW that I had paid for and put the info into CarMax and they would give me $15,000 less than I was paying for it. When I cancelled the deal, the salesman asked why. I told him the same things that I wrote here and he said it was perfectly understandable especially with the resale values.
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Seems that it can't be after-market. Apple seems to control what is allowed into the Wallet app very tightly.
Ironically it's easy to implement RFID car keys these days but few car companies do it for some reason (it's a cool feature to have a credit card sized key you put in your wallet). And RFID is compatible with NFC so the original version using NFC on the iPhone could have been built into many cars very easily. Maybe the UWB version will be the popular one since it is "wireless" like normal key fobs are. On the other hand, many car makers are using Bluetooth but Apple elected to not use Bluetooth.
App must be opened, the location must be shared, based on Bluetooth. it's not the same, current approach is weak
App doesn't have to be opened. Bluetooth yes, opened no. My phone just sits locked in my pocket. Even if it's weak, it sure is nice.
App has to be open in the background, if you close it you will get a notification saying you are disconnected. CarKey can run from Apple Watch like a credit card, big win
Do you only shop at places that accept Apple Pay? Or do you also have Walmart & Kroger Pay setup?
Shops don’t need to accept Apple Pay, they need to accept the contactless standard. So if they accept contactless bank cards then they accept Apple Pay. That is the beauty of a good implementation.
And yes I only take my phone as well. The only time I used my Polestar 2 keys was as multi factors to enable pairing with my phone as key setup. It’s been flawless.
Polestar also doesn’t use the Apple Carkey and take a similar cross platform approach like Tesla. And no the app doesn’t need to be opened. It needs to be paired and needs to be activated on the car. But you don’t need to open the app, or have it running in the background. That is just not true.
The reason I mentioned Walmart and Kroger Pay was that these are literally at this point the last two holdouts of even turning on contactless payments in the US.
Yup, more fool them. But that is not an Apple Pay problem. They got to get into the 21st century. Amazed that covid regulations hasn’t forced them to enable contactless payments.
Very strange that the EV6s don't have wireless car play. Do they have wired CarPlay?
Not sure about earlier models, but it appears that all of the 2022 KIA Niros (plain hybrid, PEHV, and EV) all have wireless CarPlay capability. Not all apps that show up on the screen behave perfectly--I can't consistently get WAZE to work well on my Niro's touch screen (clearly a 1st world concern).
Again I would think that there would be much better tech integration on the EV6 than the Niro. Despite not having CarPlay, I bet you are having a blast with your EV6!!
They do have wired CarPlay. You can always get one of those USB things I suppose that will convert it to wireless.