iPhone 7/Plus iPhones; turn them over, all the same

[jeyf]

Again (and again, and again) thing that surprised me was that all apps still worked, exactly like on the iphone5.

so just to help out here the iPhone5 apps, not updated in a while worked efficient. I have a small business and i rely on my iphone (street gps, personal VPN, PDF scaNNING. I still uase VLC & eBook. I bought a $450 craigslist iphone and you know it works just fine too.

odd thingy the iPhone5 and the 7 are amazingly similar, just i am out $400
incremental increases in processing power really dosnt effect people's lives

 

[Dented]

X is far from a cosmetic repackaging, compared to current levels of technology. Phones like the X, like Galaxy S8, like Pixel 2 - they are really pushing the tech and are advancing at insane speeds. Anything more is just unrealistic.

It’s a cosmetic repackaging. The only big new technology in the X is Face ID and the related Animoji, which is cool and all but no great leap forwards. In every single other respect it works the same as any other iPhone from about the iPhone 4 onwards, it does all the same stuff largely the same way, it fulfils the same function, most apps won’t really feel any different on it and there’s no big thing that it allows you to do that wasn’t there before, it’s just... an iPhone.

Seriously, what do you people expect? Mind-controlled devices installed behind your retinas? You do understand that ALL phones will just be "cosmetic repackages" in the same way for years to come?

Yes. That’s kind of the point I’m making.

Set expectations to realistic. I mean, they literally changed everything compared to iPhone 5.

They really didn’t. It’s a secure device that runs iOS, you interact with it by touch or by Siri, it comes with a bunch of standard apps and iCloud, you can install millions of games and apps for pretty much anything which all run quickly, it has cameras front and back, you can use it as a satnav or connect your Apple Watch to it, it has fast data, Wi-fi, Bluetooth... which am I describing, the 5 or the X?

The X is cosmetically different, but essentially the same. It doesn’t send an email, answer a phone call, or perform a lot of other functions any better than a 5 or similar. It’s Apple’s best and most concerted effort at recreating some of the wow factor over earlier releases, but the wow is pretty short lived, once you get over the slightly different look and feel you’re just left doing the same stuff in much the same way as you were before you upgraded; I think that’s what the OP is getting at.

 

[aevan]

It’s a cosmetic repackaging. The only big new technology in the X is Face ID and the related Animoji, which is cool and all but no great leap forwards. In every single other respect it works the same as any other iPhone from about the iPhone 4 onwards, it does all the same stuff largely the same way, it fulfils the same function, most apps won’t really feel any different on it and there’s no big thing that it allows you to do that wasn’t there before, it’s just... an iPhone.

Ok.... What phone hasn’t been “just a repackaging” in the past few years then? I mean, Galaxy S8 is just a Galaxy, Pixel 2 is just a Pixel....
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They really didn’t. It’s a secure device that runs iOS, you interact with it by touch or by Siri, it comes with a bunch of standard apps and iCloud, you can install millions of games and apps for pretty much anything which all run quickly, it has cameras front and back, you can use it as a satnav or connect your Apple Watch to it, it has fast data, Wi-fi, Bluetooth... which am I describing, the 5 or the X?

You hand-picked the features that suit you. I could make a similar argument: It’s a device that recognizes your face and is aware of your attention. It uses an always active screen that can be woken from sleep by touch. It can understand depth and differentiate between close and far objects. It can run augmented reality applications. By the way, it can be charged without plugging any wires in it. What phone am I describing, the 5 or the X?

 

[jeyf]

all for > $1000

 

[noobinator]

And cars all have 4 wheels and an engine.

 

[Dented]

Ok.... What phone hasn’t been “just a repackaging” in the past few years then? I mean, Galaxy S8 is just a Galaxy, Pixel 2 is just a Pixel....

Yup. Again you’re just making my point for me, yes all the recent phones are just rehashes of the same thing, as exciting as the latest model of washing machine. They all contain improvements, refinements, but fundamentally they do all the same things as the last model in largely the same way.

You hand-picked the features that suit you. I could make a similar argument: It’s a device that recognizes your face and is aware of your attention. It uses an always active screen that can be woken from sleep by touch. It can understand depth and differentiate between close and far objects. It can run augmented reality applications. By the way, it can be charged without plugging any wires in it. What phone am I describing, the 5 or the X?

Nope, I hand-picked the features that actually make up the core functionality of the product. The aspects you’ve selected are the window dressing, the cosmetics, the stuff you play with once and then ignore. They simply don’t matter the way you think they do.

 

[aevan]

They simply don’t matter the way you think they do.

Because you are the one who determines what matters and what doesn’t.

The arrogance of some people here.

 

[JM]

my iphone 5.0 died, front glass became detached.

got a new Craigslist red iphone7. Met the seller in the Apple store. Swap sim card & restore the backup, paid $350 ready to go

using the new phone:
Just an observation; I expected things to be a little different, just a little bit faster better. but really not so

I went from 5s to 7. I noticed:

- better screen colors/saturation/contour/ whatever. It's better
- faster app load times
- more ram = less app refreshes
- faster Touch ID
- better camera/photos
- (not a thing really to compare, but my typing accuracy is better on the larger keyboard)
- Touch ID is great!
- I can run my phone under running water to wash off dirt.

 

[barjam]

Just because YOU do not use your phone to it’s fullest extent and YOU do not take advantage of a far faster phone doesn’t mean others don’t.

 

[44267547]

all the recent phones are just rehashes of the same thing, as exciting as the latest model of washing machine.

Not interested in being involved in your argument with Aevan, however; we all know the smart phones are genuinely refinements over each other every single year in terms of incremental improvements and iOS typically functions the same throughout. But, with case of the iPhone X, gesture controls and Face ID are an entirely different experience that you don't find exciting, but you also don't speak for the majority.

So, my thoughts are anecdotally, those who make these assumptions about recent phones being 'rehashes' or 'not exciting', are those who have absolutely no experience with the latest iPhone to even make that assertion to begin with. It's usually just someone not approving of the latest iPhone because it does not Fit their script. That's how I interpret your post.

 

[Dented]

Not interested in being involved in your argument with Aevan, however; we all know the smart phones are genuinely refinements over each other every single year in terms of incremental improvements and iOS typically functions the same throughout. But, with case of the iPhone X, gesture controls and Face ID are an entirely different experience that you don't find exciting, but you also don't speak for the majority.

So, my thoughts are anecdotally, those who make these assumptions about recent phones being 'rehashes' or 'not exciting', are those who have absolutely no experience with the latest iPhone to even make that assertion to begin with. It's usually just someone not approving of the latest iPhone because it does not Fit their script. That's how I interpret your post.

No, not at all. I don’t “not approve” of the X, it’s a perfectly fine phone, I’m just recognising it for what it is - not the earth shattering new technology that people crave and wish it was. As for my view not being the “majority”, I guess the sales figures will decide that.