iPhone 7/Plus iPhones; turn them over, all the same

[jeyf]

my iphone 5.0 died, front glass became detached.

got a new Craigslist red iphone7. Met the seller in the Apple store. Swap sim card & restore the backup, paid $350 ready to go

using the new phone:
Just an observation; I expected things to be a little different, just a little bit faster better. but really not so

 

[Vermifuge]

did you run a geekbench to check the CPU score?

 

[jeyf]

If I remember I’ll post it

 

[44267547]

my iphone 5.0 died, front glass became detached.

got a new Craigslist red iphone7. Met the seller in the Apple store. Swap sim card & restore the backup, paid $350 ready to go

using the new phone:
Just an observation; I expected things to be a little different, just a little bit faster better. but really not so

You said the Red iPhone 7 was "New." As in brand new? What wasn't 'faster'?

 

[macTW]

iPhone 7 should be faster and better in day-to-day use than the 5, unless all you do is text and call.

 

[jeyf]

bought my old iPhone5 the fall of 2012
we are talking about years difference. Every preceding year a fabulous iPhone release just huge totally magic.

i use my phone to organize my average life. yes; talk & text but my iPhone5 also did contacts & calendar, pdf ScannerPro, macJournal, camera, VPN into the home, street GPS. Watch read the evening away on Game of Thrones and paper back fiction.

just thought for average peeps there would be a larger functionality gap between the phones. not.

 

[newellj]

The thing I would have thought you'd notice is that TouchID works much faster and much more reliably on the 7 than it did on the 5S (and 6). Other than that, for most of us, honestly I think the year-over-year speed improvements often aren't really noticeable in everyday use.

I will say that the one place I notice the speed of the 8 that I'm trying to replace my 7 with (but probably not going to succeed - huge problems with notifications) is that the reboot time is amazingly shorter with the 8 than the 7 (which in iPhone terms was no slouch). The A11 is much faster than the A10 and you can see it in how fast the two phones restart.

 

[jeyf]

... Other than that, for most of us, honestly I think the year-over-year speed improvements often aren't really noticeable in everyday use...

a new iPhone is a must have if you are a developer or if your into designer labels. Otherwise switching iPhones eats up personal time. Like my gmail locked out a day after the switch and my journal app dropped the cloud sync.

the iPhone7 finger print sensor seems to work better faster than the sensor in my 2016 macBook. than again, you wind up typing in the password most of the time so difficult to tell

just thought there would be more magic. Set apple expectations low & be happy

 

[noobinator]

Same can be had for almost any purchase in life. Why buy any car over a few grand when there's plenty that will get you from point A to B? Why buy a nice house when there's cheaper with 4 walls and heating/cooling? Why buy a watch when you can look at the sun? Why buy those Nikes when Walmart sells shoes?

 

[jeyf]

... Why buy a watch when you can look at the sun? ...

Excellent, well said. But they took down the iPhone5, no further IOS updates possible.

no revision control on cars, real estate, Nikes and the sun. they all function as initially anticipated.

Maybe Volkswagen should have just made their older cars slower?

 

[Paddle1]

The iPhone 5 ran the previous version of the operating system so that has a lot of the changes over time included. Exclusive features and speed are the biggest differences. 3D Touch, AR functionality, etc.

 

[BigMcGuire]

I think we’re getting to the point in the life of computers where things don’t change as much. I remember as a kid growing up that going from a 200Mhz computer to a 233, it was noticeable. Going from a 200Mhz to a 500mhz was night and day on speed. Windows 98 to Windows XP was pretty big. Now, things are so optimized that we’re not seeing a ton of advancement in CPU speed - Windows 7 and Windows 10 aren’t that different. In fact, I used to think how cool XP was versus 98 - but almost everyone I know complained about Windows 10 from 8...

But iPhone 5 to 7 or 8? Big difference in camera quality/features, screen responsiveness and readability, Touch ID speed is vastly improved, etc...

 

[44267547]

As BigMcguire mentioned, it's to a point where our phones are so powerful and they can do so many things, that you become numb to every upgrade after so often. The features that change the most is the camera and added functionally like 3D Touch or stereo speakers, that are implemented or rationalized for each iPhone upgrade. But smart phones in general every year increasingly become faster, but does the consumer really notice how fast they are based on how they're using their phone? Likely not. But for a tech user, they might appreciate the speed more often.

 

[Dented]

my iphone 5.0 died, front glass became detached.

got a new Craigslist red iphone7. Met the seller in the Apple store. Swap sim card & restore the backup, paid $350 ready to go

using the new phone:
Just an observation; I expected things to be a little different, just a little bit faster better. but really not so

It’s been this way for a while, there’s a whole industry in pushing benchmarks and speed tests but in genuine everyday use, one generation feels very much like another. The newer phone may be doing a little more in the background and it may be running games a little faster etc, but as far as texting/calling/browsing/facebooking etc goes it’s a case of meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Unless of course the old boss has been told to run slower because of its bad battery of course

That’s why the iPhone sales juggernaut will derail for Apple sooner or later; they know that very well. Cosmetic repackages like the X are just attempts to delay the inevitable.

 

[jimbo1mcm]

Iphone 7 has nice and loud stereo speakers.

 

[JPack]

The same app that runs on iPhone 5 runs on iPhone 7.

There hasn't been a fundamental shift in technology, nor the way we interact with the iPhone. Apple is trying to revitalize the industry with iPhone X but augmented reality still has a long way to go.

 

[aevan]

just thought for average peeps there would be a larger functionality gap between the phones. not.

That really depends on your expectations.

Compared to a 5, the 7 has a larger, higher resolution screen with almost twice the maximum brightness, pressure sensitive touch system, a force-feedback home button with a biometric sensor, completely new haptics, stereo speakers, a much better camera and is several magnitudes faster. It runs a newer iOS, has Augmented Reality and is faster than some laptops.

On the other hand, it's still a phone with a touch screen. If you expected holograms or something, yes, the gap is "small". What would make the gap larger? I can understand that, if you're not into technology and care little about CPU speed or the Taptic Engine or AR, for "phone things" like calls, messages or email - at the end of the day it's a similar experience. Don't expect that to change anytime soon.
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That’s why the iPhone sales juggernaut will derail for Apple sooner or later; they know that very well. Cosmetic repackages like the X are just attempts to delay the inevitable.

X is far from a cosmetic repackaging, compared to current levels of technology. Phones like the X, like Galaxy S8, like Pixel 2 - they are really pushing the tech and are advancing at insane speeds. Anything more is just unrealistic.

Seriously, what do you people expect? Mind-controlled devices installed behind your retinas? You do understand that ALL phones will just be "cosmetic repackages" in the same way for years to come?

Set apple expectations low & be happy

Set expectations to realistic. I mean, they literally changed everything compared to iPhone 5.


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Maybe Volkswagen should have just made their older cars slower?

Ok, this is just one of those "negative for the sake of negativity" posts Macrumors is full of.

I should've seen it coming when you said there is no big gap between the 5 and 7, but I thought that perhaps you're not into tech that much so I tried to explain.... but now I see this is just classic hate post. Never mind.

 

[jeyf]

-my inference here is if Apple was not slowing down the old iPhones there would be even less difference.
-with personal computers; you would not update your portable or desktop every year, same principle applies to phones. Unless you develop or enjoy the status like Prada shoes.

.... but now I see this is just classic hate post. Never mind.

this is the "rumors" forum not apple.com

 

[tomjleeds]

They aren't slowing down 5s... if anything it might be the opposite, that you have a 7 with a ruined battery and it's being slowed down as a result.

I went from a 5 to a 7, software functionality wise it was a nothing upgrade, but the speed difference was ridiculous. I still use both on a daily basis, and the 5 is frustrating as hell.

 

[jeyf]

They aren't slowing down 5s... if anything it might be the opposite, that you have a 7 with a ruined battery and it's being slowed down as a result..

all good but
?what were you trying to say?

 

[tomjleeds]

all good but
?what were you trying to say?

You implied that Apple is slowing down old iPhones. The recent battery hoopla relates only to 6S and newer. There is no conspiracy (that we know of) to slow down older iPhones.

You also stated that you bought a 7 from Craigslist. We don't know the condition of this device. If it's used, its battery may be significantly degraded. This would leave it susceptible to the recent battery hoopla.

Were it susceptible to said hoopla, performance would be reduced. This might explain your impression that performance hasn't moved on a great deal.

 

[jeyf]

... You also stated that you bought a 7 from Craigslist. We don't know the condition of this device. If it's used, its battery may be significantly degraded. This would leave it susceptible to the recent battery hoopla...

its the red iphone7 so really not that old.

 

[C DM]

its the red iphone7 so really not that old.

Age isn't necessarily the only or even the main thing when it comes to battery condition.

 

[jeyf]

Battery is fine. Again thing that surprised me was that all apps still worked, exactly like on the iphone5.

 

[jav6454]

That's how the App Store works, provides the most stable apps for your iPhone.