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iphoto 08 does not save noise correction and sharpness

congratulations one person can share and understand my problem

sophia seeker at least you can see what i am talking about. It doesn`t save noise and sharpness correction outside the edit window. I sware some ppl must work for apple here or are sorry to say it....too stupid to identify the problem. Any one that can identify the problem please tell everyone that they can using mac because that is the only way the problem will get fixed. Tell mac support on the phone or email them. Tell camera magazines. Tell macs competion. What ever it takes. You should not have to purchase aperture for basic quick photo editing that iphoto should do just fine. Anyone buying a mac will have the same problem.
yours truely
iphotonut
 
jerryrock said:
You don't know what you are talking about.
Edits in iPhoto are stored in the data folder, not with the original file as you suggest. Try deleting the modified file from the modified folder and then open the original in iPhoto. You will see the changes are still there.
The results are not "sticking" because the changes are proprietary and only work within iPhoto. You need to export the edited file to keep the changes made.
Click to expand...

Edits are stored as data, but iPhoto still renders a new jpg based on the edits. I think we are not in disagreement, but are looking at two sides (I am saying iPhoto renders a new jpg based on the edits stored in the database, you are saying they are stored in the database -- we are not in disagreement on this)

However, you are missing the OP's point. It is not about diving into the modifieds folder, or understanding how iPhoto stores edits, or even about exporting. It's about making changes in sharpness or NR, and then going back to the photo later while still in iPhoto, and not seeing the changes they just made. It's also two posters with the same problem.

You should read the threads and understand a) what the OP's issue is, and b) that there are more than one person posting here. There is no reason to slog around inflammatory statements like "you don't know what you are talking about."
 
i stand by what i say

I started this topic and exporting does not save a noise corrected photo when i exported it to desktop from the edit window. It simply does not save noise or sharpness where it counts. You can go to the modified folder and it is not saved. All original noise as well as sharpness remains. Its a logical problem i am stating. Yes it must save it somewhere if you go back to the edit window it is saved. It just doesnt save outside the edit window within iphotos opening window. All slideshows, apple photo albums , apple prints work from this not the edit window. so it is a problem. I don`t care to talk crap on the workings of the filing system and i guess you are right and very knowledgable in what you say. Its however a different to the topic i set. I couldn`t give 2 hoots about that topic. Apple support have addmited the problem to me. People sticking up for mac are not helping the problem Mac support are no help at all.
Iphoto 08 does not save noise or sharpness like ilife 08 promotes. Your final photos that get printed will not have any changes to noise or sharpness even if you print from the modified folder. Simply looking at the nice change in the edit window is no help if what you see there does not appear on your prints. please try to understand my point.
your sincerely
iphotonut
 
Well said and explained. My problem exactly!

Part of the communication problem might be simply language issues....in that, I mean, some of you are technically very savvy and have a tendency to post responses that assume a knowledge some of us (like me) just don't get.

At the same time, I (along with the original postperson), keep trying to say a simple thing about a simple problem that should not be happening to anyone trying to use iphoto. If saving these sorts of changes are THIS hard, well, that means only a VERY techno savvy person can use iphoto. And that makes no sense at all.
 
iPhoto noise reduction problem

I am having the same problem as 'iPhotonut' (noise reduction changes are not saved). I read the whole thread but it doesn't look like anyone has found a solution.Please let us know if anyone has solved this problem or would I have to call Apple to fix the problem :(
 
I just called Apple Customer Care and they told me that i need to pay up to find a solution to this problem. I'm new to Apple and this sux!!!! How on earth do people solve their problems with Apple? HELP!!
 
same problem

hi,

I am having the same problem as iphotonut - was a solution ever found - its really annoying me that I cant use reduce noise and my old mac this was never a problem. I just spend a fortune on this new mac and iphoto is one of the main things I use and so this is a BIG deal to me!

Thanks

Kaz
 
Okay, since we are talking about modifying photos in iPhoto, what will happen if I drag my modified or non-modified image to a finder folder? Does it retain the changes or it brings up the original photo?

Oh yea, and I head iPhoto changes something about your photo, if Im not mistaken it has to do with the appearance of the photo like coloring and etc. Care to elaborate on this?
 
iPhotoNut is absolutely correct. I'm not a novice mac user, and I've used iPhoto for years, but I guess I never had photos as low light as the ones I took at a Superbowl event over the weekend, and they are very very noisy. iPhoto is not saving the Noise Reduction changes. I've run the gauntlet he described, and then some, both with phone support and, today, for nearly six hours in-person at the Apple Store. The only place the Noise Reduction edits show is in the edit mode of iPhoto itself, and this is not terribly useful.

If anyone has better luck with a fix for this than I did, I'd sure love to know. Meanwhile, I am embarking on re-editing the noise reduction facet of these nearly 800 photos with Adobe Elements, a program I find cumbersome and difficult but, at least, it works. But be prepared: You will spend about an hour with each rep convincing them that this issue actually exists before they hand you off to another so you can start all over again. At no point will any of them admit that there is an issue here. As a diehard Mac advocate, I find this very disappointing. And, iPhotoNut? Don't bother buying the new iLife software package, as one rep suggested to you. We tried it today at the Apple Store and it has exactly the same problem...although, even then, they didn't call it a problem, didn't acknowledge that there's no logical reason for this option to even be in iPhoto if it's of no use, just tried to steer me toward purchasing the $200 Aperture 2.0.

:(
 
Mmm ... my 2 cents

When you <file><export> you have the choice to export <original> or <actual> (not sure of this, cause I have iPhoto in french) or <jpg> <tiff> ...
If you export <original> you will NOT export the ajustments you made to the picture. You have to export <actual>.
 
Scenestealer...you worded that perfectly. It's very frustrating that I can only see my noise and sharpness edits when I go into edit mode. It actually took me some time to realize that the photos I was uploading to Flickr weren't retaining my edits. This pretty much blows, at least others are feeling my pain. I'm not about to drop the 200 on Aperture. ****...Well at least some of the other tools in iPhoto are of some use to me...Still a disappointment
 
I think it works this way be design. It is NOT a bug.

Here is why. Color, exposure and cropping should "stick" because those adjustments are independent of image size. But sharpening and de-noise apply ONLY to the one image size where you made the adjustment. In other words the sharpen/de-noise you would apply to a print made with 3000 pixels across is very different to the sharpen/de-noise adjustment you would make if the image were going to a DVD.

In any correct digital work flow you must always sharpen after you re-size the image. Sharpen and de-noise should always take into consideration the final resolution.

Don't drop $199 in Aperture unless you understand WHY both sharpening and de-noise are image scale dependent. Aperture NEVER stores your corection in the image. It is non-descructive even in the way it handles crops. If you dislike iPhoto your will really dislike Aperture.
 
I found a FIX

I myself have had this same problem...and i hated it! But, i believe i just figured out a way to quick solve this...

When you are in edit view and the effects are are on, simply press comman-shift-4 to use the screen shot "custom selector" and fit it to your image and it will save perfectly on your desktop, effects and all
 
tlslvt said:
I myself have had this same problem...and i hated it! But, i believe i just figured out a way to quick solve this...

When you are in edit view and the effects are are on, simply press comman-shift-4 to use the screen shot "custom selector" and fit it to your image and it will save perfectly on your desktop, effects and all
Click to expand...

Would it be at full resolution, or just the resolution of your screen?
 
Well if your working with huge photos no it probably doesnt get full resolution unless you have a MASSIVE monitor, but it still has very good quality if you have a nice camera...i mean think about it...background images are like 1,000 by 1,500 or somethin, and thats pretty big...
 
me too

I've had my powerbook g4 for several years now. Just took a class on picture editing. Thought I'd try out my Iphoto version 5.0 for once and try out the editing feature. Now I'm not a photo tweaker per se but yes, when I go ahead and change saturation, contrast and then use the the sharpness slider, all other edits to the picture are saved except the sharpness. This really blows in my opinion. I notice that a split second after you hit the "Done" button, you can see the editing window lose your saved sharpness setting right before the window closes. Then when looking at the newly modified photo, again, all edits are there except the sharpness. Wow.

It's really simple. If the sharpness works, great. If it doesn't work, it shouldn't have been included in the version of Iphoto. It's false advertising. Please, if anyone has a fix to this, (not a workaround), please post.

Thanks
 
Still No Fix!?

I'm also in agreement that noise reduction settings will *NOT* export on the current photo. Noise reduction settings can only be seen in the edit window. This totally blows... yes, you can Cmd-Shift-4 in the Edit window to "grab" the .png screen shot, but not at the photo's full resolution, only what your monitor allows. This same thread is all over Apple Support forums. :-(
 
None of my edits stick!

After I edit a photo, it shows up edited when I open iPhoto. BUT when I upload the pictures to Facebook, the UNedited version show up; just right back to the crappy originals. NONE of the editing sticks!!! (saturation, sharpness, tint) What the heck is the problem?? I press "done" when I'm done, and do not use the escape key. Why is this happening??
 
iphoto will save noise and sharpness edits

i got my first computer 5 years ago...i am not what you would call a computer person...i am a film photographer that realized i was going to have to add digital photography to my world and did...at first i had a pc and went nuts...i quickly converted to mac and will not go back....i moved from a g4 to a mac mini in oct 09 and luv it!
to the point at hand...i was also having this problem of not seeing my noise and sharpness edits staying put...that is the reason i found this forum...i worked with it this morning and finally found a solution that works for me....if you down size the files before you import to iphoto(to 1024x768,or smaller in preview- you can do more than one image at a time) then the noise and sharpness changes stick. you have a smaller file size to post on facebook, flicker or what ever, but i don't have a problem with this because i don't want my original sized file online for someone to steal!
i know this does not solve it all,but i hope this helps!
 
iphoto 08 does not save noise correction and sharpness

I'm having exactly the same problem. Would buying ilife 09 help?

I'm importing my photos from my camera using iphoto. Then using photoshop elements 8 to adjust the photos. However after I'm done editing, all the thumbnails in my iphoto library are of my original photo - very annoying coz I corrected them for a reason!

When I open the photo (in iphoto) it quickly changes to the edited version. However I am now making a photobook via iphoto and the photos it is using are not always my edited versions!

What's going on? I'm not trying to do anything complicated!
 
Yay! I've just found a way to do it! Went into iphoto - preferences - changed edit program to Adobe. Now it automatically opens using that program when I edit. Then just press save, rather than save as. Its finally changed my thumbnails and photobook to the edited versions of my photos.
 
I have the same proble, I tried all of your suggestions and nothing. I did find the changed versions of my pictures, including noise reduction in the data folder, they were there but they didn't have the right resolution and they looked almost pixelated. It sucks that we have this amazing tool with wich you can edit really fast but you cannot use the pictures for anything cuz it changes the resolution.
 
Iphoto not saving changes

I am also having the same problem with Iphoto 09 Vsn. 8.1.2 not saving changes.
I am running snow leopard 10.6.4

When you go into edit the adjustments like Denoise and sharpness can be seen.
When you click DONE and go back into the picture they disappear. must be a solution to this fundamental problem.

Anyone found a workable fix?
 
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