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If it's in the same physical location as your primary data it isn't really a backup. Yeah, it may help in the event of the first drive failing but there are numerous other conditions it fails to protect against.

Considering that most people don't do any backups at all, using only TimeMachine is better than what most people do. :)

But I agree with offsite backups. I've got at least 4 copies of every critical file -- on the computer, on a TimeMachine backup, and on two off-site disk backups.
 
If its any consolation iMovie has similar problems. My imported Projects have sound file problems that it wont play .. and when I first ugraded it wouldnt even start ..hanging when it was 'Generating Thumbnails' .... for over an hour. I traced this to particular file .. moved that file from its Folder on to the Desktop .. restarted iMovie 11. It did the trick. Then I had to delete half the stuff in the moved folder which hadn't converted properly ... THEN it worked.

THEN new Warning Triangles telling me the Frame Rate differed in some imported video and how Sound Files weren't find-able .. not good.

Luckily all my Projects are completed and Saved. BUT the problems that look ahead is NOT good. Apple clearly have not Beta tested iLife 11 properly.

WHen I moved from 08 to 09 this was not a problem....as a previous chappie said earlier in this thread .. we are not talking about v.1.0 now.. this is a later release .. and as others have said the features arent mind blowing in iMovie at least.

Next .... Garageband!!! :-(
 
Sorry but these seems flawed if i read wrong and so much work. You store your photos on a harddrive and mention about swapping that hard drive and not to store them on your internal drive plus all these naming files etc??

If you use aperture you can import plus name the files in one step, keep them on the specified drive you have for photos BUT back up using timemachine. You mention that older back ups are wiped, this is correct but im sure you know after one or two months if you got rid of a photo you needed. This way you have a copy on the drive plus one back up, the back up goes you still have your drive and visa verca.

You also mentioned storing it on DVD but that in fact has a shelf life, my understanding is 7 years, you dont want to trust it after that.

Dont get me wrong not having a go at you here I just think you are doing way to many steps and you are setting yourself up for a large loss of data (if i read everything correctly)

With my workflow, you have 2-2 backup (2 medias, 2 locations). And allows easier transferring of data from old storage device to new storage device (which should be done every 2 - 3 years anyways).

My macbook pro unfortunately has smallish HD. And I shot about 4000 photos/videos, in 2009 alone. There's no way I can keep ALL my photos on internal HD. I have to limit to favorite ones or last few month or current year. Hence I require an external HD for storing ALL my photos/videos.

Aperture is a good option that I'm actually evaluating but I already spent $ for iLife. And it doesn't help with backup anyways. My workflow isn't that burdensome, especially when you consider you are preserving the precious/irreplaceable photos/movies.

Yes DVDs have limited shelf life, and HDs have even shorter one. I use DVDs as last resort backup. My plan is never having to pull them out for restoring photos, more explained later.



Hardware preparation
-Get at least 1, preferably external 2 HDs (maybe 1 HD and 1 HD Dock). Preferably Firewire enclosures so you can daisy chain and worry about plugging in/out just 1 cable. With new Macbooks coming with only 2 USB ports, you may want to get Firewire external HD enclosures.
-The 1st external HD I use for Time Machine isn't big enough so it backs up just my Macbook internal HD.
-The 2nd external HD is for storing photos/video/iMovie projects long term.
-I initially suggested using 1 external HD (for both Time Machine and long term storage of photos) because I figured people who don't have an external HD for backup already will be reluctant to buy 2. But I strongly suggest having 2.
-Plan on swapping out the external HDs every 3 years, maybe 2 if you are paranoid and can afford $$$.


Software preparation
-Get familiar with Image Capture which comes with OS X. Instead of Image Capture you can use tools that come with camera makers. I prefer Image Capture.
-Get and install ExifRenamer and keep it in Dock. It's a FREE app. One time procedure, takes 5 min.
-I recommend iPhoto Buddy (FREE). I won't include what I do with it to keep this short but it's a great tool. It allows me to keep one iPhoto Library for a single year, keeping iPhoto library size to more manageable size, allowing easier backup.


Cloud backup service
-If you think you require offsite storage, sign up with Amazon S3 or any other cloud service.


Activity to do whenever you download photos/video from camera.
-Download photos to internal HD, into say laptopHD:~/Pictures/new.
-Drag and drop the folder ~/Pictures/new onto ExifRenamer icon. This is a 2-click operation. All pictures in the folder will be renamed according to date/time taken. Now just looking at the file name allows you to figure out where the photos are from. No need to check thumbnail, view Exif data within iPhoto etc etc. It allows easier backup/restore of photos also. Imagine that each picture has a unique serial, that also allows me to quickly identify where it came from, without having to use iPhoto or Finder to see the thumbnail.
-Having all photos renamed to date/time take will be a HUGE help with organizing photos. No need to view thumbnails. I can't say enough about how crucial this is for easier organizing/backing up photos.
-I move content of laptopHD:~/Pictures/new/ --> laptopHD:~/Pictures/2010/quarters1-4. That way new photos go into an empty folder. Upto individual preference. Key is that laptopHD:~/Pictures/new/ remains empty for next photo downloading.
-If I want to create a slideshow or do other things that iPhoto allows, I import them into iPhoto.
-I upload photos to cloud storage for offsite storage. Due to limited upload speed, I do this overnight.


Once every few weeks *Add reminder for this in iCal, Google Calendar etc.
-Copy the photos to the external HD for long term storage, maybe to this folder externalHD:/Pictures/2010/. You can create subfolders for each month or quarter such as HD:/Pictures/2010/Jan/ or HD:/Pictures/2010/Q1. Having photos/videos renamed to date/time taken will allow you to quickly move the files to correct place, using rsync or simply drag/drop.
-If you have a Mac Mini or Mac Pro and always have the external HD connected, just do it whenever you download photos/videos.
-After making sure the photos are backed up on External HD (and uploaded to cloud storage), I delete old photos from internal Macbook HD.

Once every few weeks, months, or even annually *Add reminder for this in iCal, Google Calendar etc.
-Burn DVDs of the photos/videos. Backing up on DVD is really last or second to last resort.
-Hopefully you never have to resort to accessing DVDs for restoring files in case of data loss, as you will have the external HD.

Once every 2 or 3 years
-Move data from old external HDs onto new external HDs. Because you have the long term archival files on external HD, you connect the cables and start rsync or drag/drop copy. And walk away.
-If you have the backups on DVDs, you have to sit there to swap them. Depending on how much data you have, that's a full Sat wasted. Hence, it's better to keep long term copy/backup on external HDs. DVDs is really last resort backup.


Again these are your best friends when it comes to managing photos/iPhoto: (FREE)
ExifRenamer
iPhoto Buddy
 
I didn't notice any problems. I just got a new macbook and I'm moving stuff over manually (it's been like 3 or 4 years so I wanted to start from scratch). My old computer had ilife '08. I just copied the photo library to new computer, installed ilife '11 and after a couple minutes to convert the library it's working fine. The item count and event counts are correct. Don't use faces so can't really comment on that.
 
No RAW support for Panasonic DMC-LX5

This blows. Only reason I upgraded. Still no RAW support?:mad:
 
This blows. Only reason I upgraded. Still no RAW support?:mad:

That's not an iPhoto thing, that needs to come as an update to the RAW compatibility files. If that's a newer camera, they'll get to it eventually, and then iPhoto will import your photos.
 
The title of the story made me first think that the program was giving users eyestrain or something, causing physical headaches.

I thought the same exact thing. I was expecting to see the matt vs. glossy screen debate for the millionth time:eek:
 
Solution:

So, I found a way to fix the problem. First, I pulled off the pre-iLife 11 version of the iPhoto Library from my Time Machine Backup (If you don't have this, welp... that stinks.) I then held down Command and Option as I opened up iPhoto. This presented me with the list of library repair tools. I checked everything on the list, and as far as I know, iPhoto both repaired and upgraded my library. All the photos were there and peace was restored to my Mac.
 
and no update should wipe photos' from a user's HD. That is criminal.

No update before and very possibly this one actually deleted any photos from the hard drive. It just appears to because the library is corrupted and won't display them.

but if you actually open up the package the photos are there in the original folder just like always.
 
For my part, I'm kinda disappointed by Apple this time coz' I simply can't find how to add 'Places' to the pictures I took with my wife (with a non GPS camera) last week-end in Venice Italy... I may have missed the how-to but I loved that capability with iPhoto 09'...
 
For my part, I'm kinda disappointed by Apple this time coz' I simply can't find how to add 'Places' to the pictures I took with my wife (with a non GPS camera) last week-end in Venice Italy... I may have missed the how-to but I loved that capability with iPhoto 09'...

Pretty easy actually. Select the pictures you want to change. Click 'Info' and enter Venice, Italy into the Place block. It will show you a map of the location with a pin on it that you can then drag to anywhere more specific you want.
 
well i upgraded and didn't notice anything, but i wasn't really paying attention. i mean, i think all my photos are there.

so you can't buy calendars anymore?
 
Software preparation
-Get familiar with Image Capture which comes with OS X. Instead of Image Capture you can use tools that come with camera makers. I prefer Image Capture.
-Get and install ExifRenamer and keep it in Dock. It's a FREE app. One time procedure, takes 5 min.
-I recommend iPhoto Buddy (FREE). I won't include what I do with it to keep this short but it's a great tool. It allows me to keep one iPhoto Library for a single year, keeping iPhoto library size to more manageable size, allowing easier backup.

Besides the fact that apparently I have a bad attitude that I am currently sxxxxing on, or something to that effect. I am confused why you use Image Capture. What format are your images. And are you changing that as you import. Can't you simply open Finder, navigate to the folder in your attached camera, select (or select all) and copy into your ~Pictures/whatever folder. I do that all the time. I import all photos into iPhoto but drag and copy movie files directly into a Video folder ~Video/Footage/Year/Event. Yes, OMG, non-iPhoto storage system. :eek: Call the attitude police on me and report me for my hypocrisy.
 
No real reason to keep both on your computer since neither can read the other's library. The first thing iLife '11 does is modify the library. After that previous versions of iLife won't be able to use it.

Back up your library -- it should be backed up anyway -- and then install '11. If something does go haywire, you are covered. I don't think this is a wide spread problem -- lots of loud voices in a 2 x 4 room. I certainly didn't have any problems coming from '09.

Thanks for that. Never had any problems with Apple software or updates in the 2 years since switching, so seeing this thread made me think about holding off.
I was impressed by the demo that Schiller gave.
 
Upgrade went fast and perfect

Just to chime in, but my upgrade from iLife 09 to iLife 11, specifically iPhoto 11, went very smooth and actually quite fast. About 20 mins to install all apps and about 5 mins to update the library. All there and all attributes of albums, events, projects and edits were intact. Even iMovie 11 upgrade and updates in the library went very well.

Whew!

MBP 2.8 C2D [2009] for what its worth.
 
Lost 1/2 of my iPhoto Libraries on upgrade

When I loaded iLife 11 about 1/2 of my iPhoto libraries just disappeared!
WTF? I mean the Library packages are just GONE...:eek:

I am lucky I have a Time Machine BU of the drive... but what the heck can just remove the datafiles... I can see it corrupting files... but making them just disappear? :confused: Crazy!
 
Imported photos don't appear in Events

I just did my first import of photos (from an SDHC card, via the slot in my brand-new iMac desktop Intel i5) into iPhoto '11 version 9.1. They imported and appeared in the normal way in "Last import" but they simply aren't there in "Events".
Yet another bug in this new '11 version. :(

Now what? I am not about to set up a whole new library if that means losing all my albums and slide shows. Those are really important, and represent hours of labor.

I do have a backup from before the conversion, but don't know how best to proceed. It seems likely that if I do reload the backup the same thing will happen all over again.
 
I just did my first import of photos (from an SDHC card, via the slot in my brand-new iMac desktop Intel i5) into iPhoto '11 version 9.1. They imported and appeared in the normal way in "Last import" but they simply aren't there in "Events".
Yet another bug in this new '11 version. :(

AHA! The imported photos have appeared--but they are in the wrong place. They appear near (not at) the very beginning of my Events. In the past new imports always have appeared at the end of the Events, a more logical place. NOT an improvement.
 
AHA! The imported photos have appeared--but they are in the wrong place. They appear near (not at) the very beginning of my Events. In the past new imports always have appeared at the end of the Events, a more logical place. NOT an improvement.

Happened to me, and several people reported in this and other threads, that the sort method is reset or changed during the upgrade. Go to View->Sort Events and check, and then pick the one you want to use, and the descending/ascending.
 
Happened to me, and several people reported in this and other threads, that the sort method is reset or changed during the upgrade. Go to View->Sort Events and check, and then pick the one you want to use, and the descending/ascending.

Many thanks, primalman. Before the upgrade, I had been using Manual to sort Events; perhaps the "reset" made it go to Descending. Anyway, to reset it to Ascending (which I hope will put new events at the bottom) I had to go to Sort by Date first, thus losing my elaborate manual sort!
Apple needs to think these things through. It didn't happen the last time they did an iPhoto upgrade.
 
iPhoto no longer recognizes library

Upgraded to iPhoto 11. Worked fine after library conversion. After rebooting machine after Thanksgiving holiday break, iPhoto indicates that the library is not compatible with iPhoto. WTF? 6000 photos lost. Should have stayed with Ver. 9
 
Upgraded to iPhoto 11. Worked fine after library conversion. After rebooting machine after Thanksgiving holiday break, iPhoto indicates that the library is not compatible with iPhoto. WTF? 6000 photos lost. Should have stayed with Ver. 9

Any backups?
 
Upgraded to iPhoto 11. Worked fine after library conversion. After rebooting machine after Thanksgiving holiday break, iPhoto indicates that the library is not compatible with iPhoto. WTF? 6000 photos lost. Should have stayed with Ver. 9

two things
1. have you looked inside the package to see if the photos are still there. When this happened to me I looked and all the originals were still there

2. have you installed the update. I tried again with the update installed and everything sorted out. I have read of many folks that did the same on a botched library and it came out fine
 
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