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Hopefully this will allow data transfer...I just want to offload my CF without it going into any albums or libraries.
Dr. Pookey said:I guess that would be handy. I wonder if you could plug your iPod shuffle into it?
I wonder about that, too... Autofilling the iPod shuffle from a full size iPod would be a killer feature for me. I don't have a laptop, and I intend to buy a 1GB shuffle. I already own a 20GB 3G iPod, so, being able to do that while on vacation would be great. You see, I would definitely take the shuffle to the beach, but honestly, I won't love having to select a few songs before leaving home, and have to stick with them for the next 1-2 months
That won't be very different from the time when I carried a tape Walkman with a few tapes, except for the fact that it won't malfunction because of the sand building up in the gears (no moving parts, hooray! )
Kilchzimmer said:
But a greater number of newer DSLRs have RAW+JPG writing support. May not be worth the effort for the short term to provide this sort of support for RAW only.
RAW Format NEF ?
I hope it will be possible to download and view Pictures taken in the Raw Format. Like NEF on my nikon D70. If yes I'll buy a iPod Photo and this connector. If not, I'll have to wait or buy Nikon's Coolwalk.
I hope it will be possible to download and view Pictures taken in the Raw Format. Like NEF on my nikon D70. If yes I'll buy a iPod Photo and this connector. If not, I'll have to wait or buy Nikon's Coolwalk.
trilogic said:
I agree. I see Chip's point of view, that most cams will eventually shoot RAW+JPG but for example, I have a D2h which DOES RAW+JPG and a D100 which DOES NOT. I'd love to be able to view images shot on my D100 as well as my D2h, because I still use the D100 often! It's my backup and will probably remain my backup/assistant camera for a good while!
Also, I'd rather not have to shoot RAW+JPG, if only because the whole point of this is to help save space on CF cards, but if i'm using up space for a jpg file, even if small, it'll add up over the course of a day! For example, at a wedding, I can shoot over a thousand images. I'd wanna offload them on the iPod in between say, the reception and the ceremony. So i'd also wanna make sure the photos worked, and scroll through them.
The extra time and space taken up by having to use RAW+JPG would be more than a bit agitating, and consider when my 12.4mp D2x shows up, or someone's 16mp 1ds mk II.... you're dealing with lots of file space and time, and more when you add in the jpgs!
Give us raw support apple folks! You'll allow the iPod to infiltrate a whole new market-- pro photographers! i know at least 10 folks who'd be first in line for a 60gb and camera connector.
By doing this Apple is really showing committment to the iPod platform, and showing that they're interested in having it penetrate a market other than the bleeding edge hipster subset. If they can successfully target photo guys, then I think the iPod will continue it's dominance through 2005, and probably when that tails off in early 06 Apple will do something else to wow us!
Moxiemike said:I agree. I see Chip's point of view, that most cams will eventually shoot RAW+JPG but for example, I have a D2h which DOES RAW+JPG and a D100 which DOES NOT. I'd love to be able to view images shot on my D100 as well as my D2h, which I still use often!
Also, I'd rather not have to shoot RAW+JPG, if only because the whole point of this is to help save space on CF cards, but if i'm using up space for a jpg file, even if small, it'll add up over the course of a day! For example, at a wedding, I can shoot over a thousand images. I'd wanna offload them on the iPod in between say, the reception and the ceremony. So i'd also wanna make sure the photos worked, and scroll through them.
The extra time and space taken up by having to use RAW+JPG would be more than a bit agitating, and consider when my 12.4mp D2x or someone's 16mp 1ds mk II.... you're dealing with lots of file space and time, and more when you add in the jpgs!
Give us raw support apple folks! You'll allow the iPod to infiltrate a whole new market-- pro photographers! i know at least 10 folks who'd be first in line for a 60gb and camera connector.
For you and trilogic, the best alternative right now is the Nikon Coolwalker or the Epson P-2000.
I doubt that we will see any time soon the ability of the iPod to do the conversion of RAW formats. Too many of them around, and evidenced by Canon with their CRW and CR2 formats, they are ever changing. If and when the camera manufacturers adopt the Adobe DNG format, you might then see Apple make the RAW move.
Chip NoVaMac said:
Exactly. Although I'll end up sucking it up and using RAW+jpg at least from the D2h/x.
As nice as the P-2000 and the Coolwalker look, I loathe the idea of carrying a cell phone, ipod, coolwalker/P-2000, D2h, D2x, D100, 12-24 lens, 24-70 lens, 24mm, 35mm, 50mm and 85mm primes, 70-200 lens, 1.4TC, USB cable, 6gb of CF over various 256, 512 and 1gb cards, flash gun, rechargeable AA for the flash, extra batteries for D2h/x and D100, chargers for the batteries, a tripod, monopod, and a set of 4x300 watt/sec strobe lights, stands, cables, and infrared hotshow adapter for the strobes and even my PB 12". That's a bit much. Haha. One less thing to carry is helpful.
iGary-- I agree with dumping the card. It's definitely helpful, and can be done in the car (although leaving D2h + ipod on the seat gives me a bit of a stomach ache!) but overall... i'd love it if they gave us a killer feature set straight off!
They could really position the iPod to compete with the P-2000, Coolwalker, and other machines that do the same.
The idea of dumping my card onto a drive that can potentially fail gives me a stomach ache, which is the reason I do not use Microdrives. I'll probably keep on bringing my iBook with me and burn a CD straight off, or just purchase a couple of more 2GB cards since I am now addicted to having both a full-sized RAW and full-sized JPEG with each shot, which gives me 120 shots per 2GB card.
iGary said:
I agree about living with HDD for images. I have about 6GB in solid state storage. Never cared for the MicroDrives.
And when I travel (or get home from a local shoot) I am really overboard on saving my images. I backup to the PB (or the eMac when at home) HDD and a Mobile Lacie drive, and burn a DVD of the files.
Given that I am now using a 10D, the 6GB card storage is not a problem right now. Might be more of an issue when the 30D (no, I have no info on it - just making a point
) hits with a 12mp sensor; the RAW+JPG coming up to the 12+MB range - having the option to save to an iPod on the go might be a nice option.
iGary said:
I know that feeling too. I had a shoot last month where I couldn't get the images off the 1gb CF i had! An 80x Lexar pro card too!
I ended up buying a piece of $29 software that I would highly recommend-- but it's on my office machine, and i'm at my one client's for the day. I'll post it's name, and honestly say that if you shoot with any seriousness about your images (even if it's baby snapshots or whatever) this piece of software is ESSENTIAL. And it's fast too. Provided you don't keep shooting on the CF, it'll recover just about anything. love it love it.
But yea, it's a balancing act at this point. I loved having the WT-1 for my D2h for a sport event, simply because I was able to dump those images into a folder that were 650mb large only.
Then I had an intern dump the images onto CDs. Also had them make a web page for parents to view the photos (this was for youth lacrosse). Now that to me, rocked alot, and makes me consider buying the WT-2 for my D2x... but it's still a balancing act, and having the iPod available as a solution would be very keen. COmbine it with a laptop and either wireless module and you have some good methods of getting your images onto a machine and cd which is good safety, IMHO
SiliconAddict said:OK so the only question I now have is what kind of real world transfer rate can we expect?
Hopefully not much different than the USB 1.1 or for the lucky few, the USB 2.0 download speeds to your computer when you connect the camera to it. Hopefully it will also be better than the Belkin transfer speed (though anything faster than that would be a welcomed improvement).
SiliconAddict said:OK so the only question I now have is what kind of real world transfer rate can we expect?
I'm gonna guess it'll be the xfer rate of your camera. My D100 at USB 1.1 is gonna be slow goin' but the D2h, at full speed USB 2.0 should work nicely
iGary said:
Are you as bad as I am, I am thinking about getting another Lacie Mobile to copy all my images and make PDFs of my important documents so that this "spare" drive goes into my safety deposit box?
ASP272 said:
I am assuming that it will work with any of the "newer" digital cameras that have Win 2000, Win XP, and OS X USB support and do not require their own drivers.
Chip NoVaMac said:Are you as bad as I am, I am thinking about getting another Lacie Mobile to copy all my images and make PDFs of my important documents so that this "spare" drive goes into my safety deposit box?
I'm close to insane about backing up - especially my photos.
I lost a hard drive once with two years or work on it - No back up.
I have a script that runs every Monday, Wednesday, Friday for all files, and I do a complete bootable backup every Friday.
I burn my CD's off the CF before I pass go or collect $200.00, and then put all my images on DVD every now and then....but I've never considered....
Fire.
Yikes.
Time for another external HDD and a Firesafe.
iGary said:I'm close to insane about backing up - especially my photos.
I lost a hard drive once with two years or work on it - No back up.
I have a script that runs every Monday, Wednesday, Friday for all files, and I do a complete bootable backup every Friday.
I burn my CD's off the CF before I pass go or collect $200.00, and then put all my images on DVD every now and then....but I've never considered....
Fire.
Yikes.
Time for another external HDD and a Firesafe.
Not just fire, but water damage and theft. I know of a pro-photographer that used two external HDD's as backups for his images. They were both stolen along with the computer during a break-in. He had only about 50% of his work on CDs/DVDs. And about 2 to 3% of those were not able to be read on any computer.
It does seem to be a demand for "affordable" offsite data storage for the working pro and fine art photographer.
Will the iPod still die mid-transfer?
My issue with the Belkin transfer device was that during a transfer, it would either lock up and not complete the transfer, or the iPod would die in the middle of a transfer. If there was a way to hook up power while also transferring, that would solve it. Maybe Apple has found a way for it to consume much less power during a transfer?
My issue with the Belkin transfer device was that during a transfer, it would either lock up and not complete the transfer, or the iPod would die in the middle of a transfer. If there was a way to hook up power while also transferring, that would solve it. Maybe Apple has found a way for it to consume much less power during a transfer?
What would be really nice, given all this is, is a nice, short cable. Maybe only 6 inches. Nothing is more of a pain than carrying around a big floppy 6-foot cable for transferring your pictures. Wonder if anyone will make one.