Tony Fadell's expectations are out of whack
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iPod Father Tony Fadell 'Would Have Loved' to Show Nest to Steve Jobs
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I really wish people would stop trying to talk for Steve Jobs. The guy is gone. What he would have thought of your product or the new dock in OSX or a split-screen in iOS doesn't really matter anymore. Steve Jobs certainly was visionary, but he also got things wrong. It's time to move forward.
Oh agreed totally!!! That's why I don't have a Google account, use TOR Browser and use DDG as my search engine.
Most don't care but it all adds up.
Using an iconic dead guy to shamelessly promote yourself just seems unseemly to me if not downright gloating. Like someone else said, clearly he just went for the money and didn't want to wait for Jobs vision or timetable.
The fact that Google owns his ass might make him filthy rich, but it's not something I'll be interested in do to privacy issues which Google clearly does not respect because it's not their principle interest.
Sad filthy rich boy. Like many of these buys, we probably won't even remember this guy for very long.
The fact that Google owns his ass might make him filthy rich, but it's not something I'll be interested in do to privacy issues which Google clearly does not respect because it's not their principle interest.
Sad filthy rich boy. Like many of these buys, we probably won't even remember this guy for very long.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
Jokes aside, when I disconnected my Nest it wasn't so much out of paranoia or privacy as it was about feeling duped, bated and switched, sold. I made a conscious decision to invite Nest into my home, just as I made a conscious decision to invite Apple into my pocket. I made those choices based partially on the business practices of those companies and what they do with the data I provided them.
Apple (and formerly Nest) sells me hardware. Google sells... me.
Nest data wasn't/isn't in and of itself that invasive. But as yet another data point combined with the rest of your Google profile, it's one more piece of the big picture of you, and one I didn't sign up for when I bought the Nest.
Assuming your setup is what the average user outside of MacRumors shows your unintelligence in discussing this issue, not your intelligence in having a good setup. It's that you assume everyone does what you do that makes you an idiot.
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Clearly NOT A TEAM PLAYER and looking to sell his patents, ideas, etc.
Not to mention keeping track of your use when they start to interface with the Smart Meters installed all over the country.
Bring food or be food.
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TEAM PLAYER: an individual in a group that's insecure and unproductive whom takes advantage of the most productive contributors.
iPods are linux based and Fadall was responsible for that. The iPods at that time needed an extremely nimble lightweight OS and Linux was perfect for that, especially given that the GUI on the iPod was pretty basic.
When Steve started looking into iPhone OS he pitted two teams against each other, one led by Fadall to continue the work on iPod and one by Forestall to make a touch version of OS X's AppKit based on Cocoa.
At the end of the day Forestall won, why nobody will know but I'm betting it was on the fact that being able to share a lot of the OS X frameworks easily with iOS was a huge benefit. Fadall probably still had an important roll like his bio states until he left the company.
It sounds like Fadall never got over the fact that he lost and Forestall won and held that grudge until he quit a few years later and founded Nest.
Honestly, I don't think he wants to deal with the paperwork. Senior VPs in big companies have the most power in my experience than the front man.
I care if Google sees that my house is cold, and starts to try advertise jackets to me.
I'm not a fan of the interruptive, in-your-face style of marketing. I prefer to first decide that I want to buy some product, e.g. a jacket, then to have places (physical or web-based) where an array of products are well-presented to me.
And many likely don't care at all what Google tries to advertise to them--they use their services and don't care about ads at all.
Hey Tony, you sellout, I'm pretty sure Steve would love to show you this:
http://lyric.honeywell.com
No invasion of privacy, no ads. Steve would be proud.
http://lyric.honeywell.com
No invasion of privacy, no ads. Steve would be proud.
Hmm...I've heard that the iPod project was well under way by the time Apple hired Fadell, and that the driving force behind it was really Jon Rubinstein. The product intro video for the iPod featured Phil Schiller, Jon Rubinstein and Jony Ive. No Tony Fadell. I'm sure there are some Apple employees that would raise an eyebrow with Fadell claiming he oversaw the first three generations of the iPhone. Especially since Apple announced in Nov 2008 that he was leaving and Mark Papermaster was joining the company to run iPhone hardware engineering. Why didn't Steve give that job to Tony?
I think what you mean is, people should stop talking about Steve Jobs.
Good luck with that.
Cite? As far as I know, no iPod was based on Linux. (Unless you hacked it yourself.)
This was a really good read. None of which was surprising, though. 
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Yea I didn't really think it was even an OS, but rather just a bunch of compiled code (Objective-C?) running as one program that read music files. I dunno. To be a fly on the wall in those labs!
You will be asked whether you want this or not. Not the same as buying a thermostats to be spied on/ sold ads to.
sorry I didn't realise nest displayed adds ? If it does could you please give me a source
thanks.Also this story is a non-story , the guy might of obvously had a relationship with Steve , and would have liked steves opinion on the product he create , there is nothing wrong with that at all so I don't know why people are being all bitchy and fanboying on such a throw away comments.
Like wise the reporter obvously asked him what jobs would think and he gave his opinion , again what do you expect him to say ? No comment ? Steve would think its crap no? Of course not he is obvouslt gonna spin it in a positive way
They bought Iovine and a streaming service. They didn't buy the headphones. The headphones, though, are quite profitable, and Apple will make its small (by Apple standards) investment back in a few years because of them.
…..And Google won't know when I'm home or not.
Quite possibly a reality in the not too distant future, and a scary thought as well, and not because I care whether Google knows whether I'm home or not, but with the potential for data on such information being collected and/or stored, and thus out there in cyberspace, comes the virtual certainty of that data being hacked someday.
In the same vein of 'mining customer info/data', I've never understood why exactly Google originally (when search engines were a new thing) started retaining records of the billions of searches conducted each year via 'Googling' the World Wide Web, other than a "we can, so we will, perhaps it'll benefit us sometime in the future" kind of mindset, which should be troubling at the very least, to most privacy minded, and thinking human beings.
Of course with the 'search records' genie out of the bottle, there's no going back to 'unrecorded' searches ever.
Even if search giants like Google were willing to reverse their 'retaining records' policies, and would be willing to make anonymous searches the norm, no government would let them.
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What an arse!
Nest is quite possibly the worst idea since the start of time. About as useful as a connected fork that monitors how you eat! Google bought the company for something else because the products smoke detectors and thermostats aren't ideas worth buying and I'm sure you can't patent adding wifi to something.
Most people don't even have their radiators calibrated to produce the same temperature in every room based on temp of where the thermostat is located! It's hardly ideal to be monitoring an already out of wack system?
Smoke detectors is kind of dumb too. I mean if you have a fire you are probably at home cooking or asleep in another room forgetting about the cooking. So you would hear the alarm. If you were out and about what exactly would be the need to know your house is on fire? I'm still at a loss to see the advantage? can anyone tell me at all?
This guy is not a visionary and definitely not smart, steve would have shot down his ideas in a heartbeat and called him a hack. Sorry but this company will go on to nothing. They were acquired for something other than their products for sure. If you disagree please tell me what i'm missing?
Nest is quite possibly the worst idea since the start of time. About as useful as a connected fork that monitors how you eat! Google bought the company for something else because the products smoke detectors and thermostats aren't ideas worth buying and I'm sure you can't patent adding wifi to something.
Most people don't even have their radiators calibrated to produce the same temperature in every room based on temp of where the thermostat is located! It's hardly ideal to be monitoring an already out of wack system?
Smoke detectors is kind of dumb too. I mean if you have a fire you are probably at home cooking or asleep in another room forgetting about the cooking. So you would hear the alarm. If you were out and about what exactly would be the need to know your house is on fire? I'm still at a loss to see the advantage? can anyone tell me at all?
This guy is not a visionary and definitely not smart, steve would have shot down his ideas in a heartbeat and called him a hack. Sorry but this company will go on to nothing. They were acquired for something other than their products for sure. If you disagree please tell me what i'm missing?