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iPod Mini in the Media and on TV?

Re: Can't meet demand at $199?

Originally posted by splashman
Let's be a bit careful here. You're assuming that Apple couldn't meet demand at $199, and that this limitation is what dictated the pricing. Honest question: Is that assumption based on anything besides pure speculation?
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I don't honestly believe the pricing is solely based on supply/demand - I believe it has more to do with cannibalizing existing iPod sales, and recouping R&D costs.

however, while the elasticity is steep for the iPod buyers (due to store reports of people "settling" for more expensive iPods at $100-200 more), the next 1/3rd of the market for other mp3 players seems to be fairly price conscious, at least they're not willling to purchase a $300 music player. if you release a player that is priced not above, but AT the $199 price point, you're going to get a flood of buyers from that 1/3rd of the market, which is more demand than a new product can possibly ramp up for.

keep in mind the harddrives used for the Mini are just beginning production too.
 
Re: Re: Can't meet demand at $199?

Originally posted by ganryu
I don't honestly believe the pricing is solely based on supply/demand - I believe it has more to do with cannibalizing existing iPod sales, and recouping R&D costs.

however, while the elasticity is steep for the iPod buyers (due to store reports of people "settling" for more expensive iPods at $100-200 more), the next 1/3rd of the market for other mp3 players seems to be fairly price conscious, at least they're not willling to purchase a $300 music player. if you release a player that is priced not above, but AT the $199 price point, you're going to get a flood of buyers from that 1/3rd of the market, which is more demand than a new product can possibly ramp up for.

keep in mind the harddrives used for the Mini are just beginning production too.
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You make fair points, and you're doing it in a less arrogant fashion than the poster I was responding to.

My point remains -- the number of additional buyers who will shell out for a $199 mini is a matter of speculation. The number of minis Apple can produce is a matter of speculation.

You could very well be right. If you have anything besides gut feel on which to base this speculation, I'm listening . . .
 
Re: Re: Re: Can't meet demand at $199?

Originally posted by splashman
You make fair points, and you're doing it in a less arrogant fashion than the poster I was responding to.

My point remains -- the number of additional buyers who will shell out for a $199 mini is a matter of speculation. The number of minis Apple can produce is a matter of speculation.

You could very well be right. If you have anything besides gut feel on which to base this speculation, I'm listening . . .
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I am the poster you previously responded to :D

It's hard to speculate without real numbers or actually being in the meetings at Apple, really. All anyone can really offer to the conversation is rational and logical hypotheses why the Minis are strategically priced as such.

However, the REAL NEWS is:
The Apple earnings report. iPod Minis have a lower profit margins than regular iPods!

What a slap in the face for all those who thought Apple can afford to lower the price on the Minis. Ha!
 
I think the new ipod mini is still too expensive for most of the people. It is just like 2 years ago. 5 GB for 400 is too much for most of us.

my 2 cents
There are two ways to do business (introducing new products)

1. set the price and try to reach that goal
2. build the product and sum all the cost+revenue

I just hope that apple will keep adding value into ipod mini like they did on ipod.
if that is the case, 2 years later, we will see an amazing produce with good price. well.. but not now.
 
You all may think that the mini iPod is too expensive, but if you noticed in the quarterly report, Apple had to cut their profit margin just to get it in at $249.

So I'm stuffed if I know how you experts reckon they could and should sell it for less.

:mad:
 
I have reconsidered - and find the price 249 USD to be a good price point - especially considering the competition.

AND, the price will reach 199 within 6 - 9 months - my guess :)

look at sony/aiwa's player 2 GB, only PC, 329 USD - and less appeal!

Originally posted by yangchi
I think the new ipod mini is still too expensive for most of the people. It is just like 2 years ago. 5 GB for 400 is too much for most of us.

my 2 cents
There are two ways to do business (introducing new products)

1. set the price and try to reach that goal
2. build the product and sum all the cost+revenue

I just hope that apple will keep adding value into ipod mini like they did on ipod.
if that is the case, 2 years later, we will see an amazing produce with good price. well.. but not now.
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1 button mouse

Krizoitz wrote: Honestly, some people just don't get it. The whole intent of the one button mouse was so that anyone can learn to use a computer with the minimal amount of work

Honestly, I think you don't really get it. Everyone with an IQ of 50+ (or even lower) can use a 2 button mouse. The 1 button mouse doesn't facilitate using a computer, and it's certainly not something necessary for ppl to learn stuff faster. In fact, I think the contrary is true. While a 2 button mouse doesn't require more brain, a 1 button mouse constitutes an obstacle to efficient use of one's computer. Many apps require a 2 button mouse. Also, right-clicking is more convenient (and certainly not more difficult) than control+click.
There is no real reason for a 1 button mouse, and ease of use or convenience actually speak against it. It's just an obsolete tradition that wouldn't die...
 
It takes all of ten seconds to explain to somebody that the two buttons do different things.

I just tell them that the left button selects something, be it a block of text or an application icon for launching, and the right button gives you a list of all other things you can do with it besides select it. It's so much better than trying to get them to intuitively know which menu to search for that action...

I think we need to accept the obvious fact that computers are an integral part of our society. Treating your entire customer base as if they have never heard of a computer is just wrong these days, but had its place. I don't want anyone to take this the wrong way, but only older generations get confused by computers anymore, kids are all over it.

Can you give me one justification as to why their Pro line (Powermacs) come with the same one-button mouse? If Apple kept the one-button mouse on the consumer line, fine... but to claim that a dual 2-Ghz Powermac needs to be friendly to a person who has never used a computer before is a bit ridiculous.
 
One more thing... I don't agree with the school of thought that demands computers be able to do everything without the user having to learn a few things here and there. A computer is the most complicated tool humans have ever created, and to get full use of any tool you need to spend time with it and work to learn it.
 
its happened!

McPod.jpg



...look what I just saw at mcdonalds.com
 
Re: its happened!

Originally posted by doogle
McPod.jpg



...look what I just saw at mcdonalds.com
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nice fake picture.. but why don't you link to mcdonalds.com, if it's really from there?
 
Re: Re: its happened!

Originally posted by ganryu
nice fake picture.. but why don't you link to mcdonalds.com, if it's really from there?
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Yeeesh. Go buy a sense of humor.
 
Re: Re: Re: its happened!

Originally posted by splashman
Yeeesh. Go buy a sense of humor.
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actually for a second i really thought it's possible, given that the McDonalds 1 Billion Song giveaway rumor died down.

but yah, some ppl laugh at potty jokes too, and I don't feel bad for not appreciating those jokes.
 
Re: its happened!

Originally posted by doogle
McPod.jpg



...look what I just saw at mcdonalds.com
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It should have "Drive-Thru" instead of the FF button, "SuperSize" instead of RW and "pay" instead of play. Menu is fine as is. :)

Nice color job though.
 
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