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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What to do??

Originally posted by stingerman
The girls, who happen to be much bigger spenders on Music, love the Mini's, their finish and their colors. I expect many girls will buy more than one to match their various outfits.

This is consumer disposable culture at its finest...
 
The minis will come out.
I will drive to the Apple Store to check them out.
I will STILL want an iPod.
Thank for listening.
 
Re: best buy?

Originally posted by comrade
anyone know if best buy is going to carry the minis? And more specfically, if they will have them around this time?

Bestbuy.com is selling them at the moment. I placed my order from them a few days ago as they said they it would arrive between Feb. 16th and the 21st. I chose the standard free shipping (2-5 days I think). I don't know if the actuall stores will have them as soon though. Apple currently says 2-4 weeks for the iPod Mini to ship. I didn't want to wait that long so I thought I would take my chances with ordering from the Big Yellow Price Tag. Hope I come out ok.
 
Originally posted by Gimzotoy
According to sources quoted here the iPod mini uses a Hitachi CompactFlash hard drive. These drives usually sell on the open market for more money than the mini costs. Therefore, those with high-end digital cameras that support this particular kind of CompactFlash may be able to get quite a deal by buying a mini and ripping out the flash card.

But ... there is a BIG difference between a drive which is used in CF form and a CF drive. The big difference? The physical slot, and the CF support chip.

If the iPod mini's don't use the CF interface internally (it would strike me as a bit odd if they did ... although that would give Apple more flexibility regarding supplier I suppose), then you won't be able to just rip the drive out and use it in your camera.

And, if you have the ability/expertise to graft a CF physical and electronic interface onto a bare hard drive ... well, you shouldn't need to be worrying about the couple hundred bucks to just buy the CF version of the drive to begin with, right? :)
 
Re: CF Microdrive

Originally posted by iMook
"If it's a CompactFlash card, why make it nonremovable?" some of you ask. Consider this: if the media was made removable, could Apple and Creative still sell their players substantially below the retail price of a CF card with the same capacity? No. Making the media nonremovable and hidden away takes away much of the incentive to buy an iPod mini or MuVo2.

Also, as an added incentive not to rip out the 4GB Microdrive at the mini's heart, Apple could have very simply soldered the connecting pins. Easy as that. It makes drive removal that much more difficult.

It's not so important that it "takes away much of the incentive to buy an iPod mini or MuVo2" as that it increases the incentive to buy a "real" storage card from whatever company Apple licensed the hard drive from.
 
Interesting, two views collide!!!

You see, I am buying the mini not as a fashion statement but as a workout accessory. I run 45 minutes a day and lift 5 days a week, I want one of these because of its convenience not its style (though some of that never hurts). I dont understand what is so bad about our consumerism in this culture sometimes, I think it just drives the economy and in this case...puts money in the pockets of innovators. Apple takes emotionless steel, rock, and elements and molds them into useful and unique products that make our lives mor enejoyable.

It isnt all mindless buying and consuming...I think the mini may be more practical than you think.

AND I CANT WAIT FOR MINE!!! Blue, laser engraved, and shipping "on or before 2-17-04"!!! Hopefully I get it before anyone else because I ordered the minute of introduction. Armband and mini, perfect for running! Excited as ever, thanks for the teaser macrumors, I almost forgot I had the mini on order!:D
 
Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by Messiatosh
You see, I am buying the mini not as a fashion statement but as a workout accessory. I run 45 minutes a day and lift 5 days a week,

Dude, you're overtraining...that's counterproductive...
 
People have taken out the Hitachi microdrive from Nomad Muvo's for use in cameras. I saw a picture of it someplace. Maybe the iPod uses a different variation on a microdrive. But I can think of one GOOD reason Apple might use a CF-format microdrive: maybe that's all there is! :)

(People hoping for the iPod mini to bomb are in for a disapointment. They've been top sellers at Apple.com and Amazone for weeks, and they aren't even shipping yet!)

Oh... and regarding the free engraving (normally $30). That's worth someting to me from an anti-theft/loss perspective. I'd put my web address on the back. If it ever turns up missing, someone is bound to visit the address and see my personal message about getting my iPod back. To steal an engraved iPod means you must deface it--so it better be for you because it will be harder to sell. (But I think loss is more likely than theft anyway. I want it to be easy to return to me. It will have business files on it--encypted backups plus my Address Book--not just music!)
 
Re: Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by john123
Dude, you're overtraining...that's counterproductive...

Not if done properly, it is possible to workout and run everyday depending on the exercise and desired fitness goal. I'm not doing anything crazy. Hey, I'm 18 years old...need to get rid of some energy as it is, hehe.
 
Re: Re: Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by Messiatosh
Not if done properly, it is possible to workout and run everyday depending on the exercise and desired fitness goal. I'm not doing anything crazy. Hey, I'm 18 years old...need to get rid of some energy as it is, hehe.

I'll take some of yours. I need some energy to pass my classes. :p

I really think that the mini will do better than I thought, but Apple needs to get it competively priced soon, as Jobs said, "The rest of the percent is the other hard drive players that the iPod is in the process of eliminating." :)
 
Re: Re: Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by Messiatosh
Not if done properly, it is possible to workout and run everyday depending on the exercise and desired fitness goal. I'm not doing anything crazy. Hey, I'm 18 years old...need to get rid of some energy as it is, hehe.

(OT)
He's right. Since when was working out and running 5 times a day bad for you?
Any kid playing a sport "works out" 5 times a week, couple hours a day.

Earendil - Started playing soccer 11 years ago, during season runs 5 days a week. Off season just mountain bikes :D
 
Re: Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by john123
Dude, you're overtraining...that's counterproductive...

Really? I lift 4 days a week and run 30 min...
In highschool I did even more. I don't think its overtraining as long as you get enough sleep and nutrition.

mmm, sleep...:)
 
Re: Re: Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by Fukui
Really? I lift 4 days a week and run 30 min...
In highschool I did even more. I don't think its overtraining as long as you get enough sleep and nutrition.

mmm, sleep...:)

Right. There is a point at which one can work, we aren't saying there isn't. But America as a whole isn't fighting to get people to work out less due to health reasons :(


edit: corrected horrible grammar problems...
 
Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by Messiatosh
You see, I am buying the mini not as a fashion statement but as a workout accessory. I run 45 minutes a day and lift 5 days a week.

Slacker!:p
 
Can someone explain...

If you have the IPOD mini on your arm and you are running, what happens to all the slack cable that must come out of the unit for headphones. Don't they get in the way ? A true wireless approach would be very nice (I wonder if that is Rev B,, even as an option for the times where Bluetooth audio is OK qualitywise whilst you are dodging buses and cyclists using the pavement?
 
Originally posted by 6163621
Can someone explain...

If you have the IPOD mini on your arm and you are running, what happens to all the slack cable that must come out of the unit for headphones. Don't they get in the way ?

You could always buy a pair of cheap "workout" headphones that has a short cable.
 
Re: Re: Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by Messiatosh
Not if done properly, it is possible to workout and run everyday depending on the exercise and desired fitness goal. I'm not doing anything crazy. Hey, I'm 18 years old...need to get rid of some energy as it is, hehe.

Running every day isn't a problem. Depending on your pace, it's either going to be aerobic or anaerobic, but either way, it's good for your cardiovascular system (assuming you're in good health).

It's the lifting 5x a week that's the concern. I used to do that, too. Never really believed what I thought was "hype" about overtraining. I mean, who'd believe that less is more, eh?

But it's so true...unless you are segmenting your lifting regimen REALLY well, I don't see how you can lift 5x a week. You doing abs on its own day? Separating shoulders from everything else? That plus legs; chest/triceps; back/biceps is about the the only way I can figure you can get to 5x a week without serious overtraining...but even on that schedule, you're going to get some duplicative work as it's impossible to totally isolate your lifting to one muscle group...
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by Earendil
(OT)
He's right. Since when was working out and running 5 times a day bad for you?
Any kid playing a sport "works out" 5 times a week, couple hours a day.

Earendil - Started playing soccer 11 years ago, during season runs 5 days a week. Off season just mountain bikes :D

Playing a sport is different from lifting. As I stated in the last post, it's not the cardio that's the problem. It's the lifting.

What you do to your body in the process of lifting is **VERY** different from what you do to it in the process of athletics.

Simply put, when you lift, you are not building muscle. That is a common misconception. You are actually breaking it down. Your body then proceeds to build it back up, only stronger than it was before (assuming that you are receiving proper nutrition to do so, the principal ingredients being protein and water).

When you use the same muscle groups in *intense* activity like lifting over and over, you don't give the muscles time for the regrowth process, thereby stunting their development from what you could achieve by lifting less.

Beginners can get away with this very well, but they soon find that their gains "plateau." Following a better regimen can help get you past this plateau. Professional weightlifters and bodybuilders can get away with doing more as well, but that's due to the exceptional training that they have given their bodies.

Most people who are "in the middle" -- gymgoers, recreational athletes, high school and college athletes -- are susceptible to overtraining.

There's a wealth of literature on this subject that can explain it all in a lot more detail or clarity than I can. But it's the truth...

EDIT: On the "sleep and nutrition" issues: both are absolutely critical, but not sufficient to prevent overtraining. They merely help to minimize it, and are instrumental in muscle development. L-glutamine is said to be a supplement that helps with OT as well, but I'm not a chemist or a biologist so I don't feel qualified to comment on its efficacy or lack thereof.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by john123
When you use the same muscle groups in *intense* activity like lifting over and over, you don't give the muscles time for the regrowth process, thereby stunting their development from what you could achieve by lifting less.
Right, thats why:

monday - biceps and shoulders.
tuesday - chest and triceps
wedsday - back and stomach
thursday - legs and calfs forearms (yes forearms!)

By the time the next week comes around to each exercise, each muscle group has had 1 week to recover.
 
Wow, just in time for Valentines Day, and in high quantities to boot. Maybe I will take my sweetheart to the Apple store today so she can pick one out...
:confused:
 
I took my 17 year old daughter down to the Burlingame store last weekend to put in an order for a green iPod mini. She saved the money and is very excited about it. Now I hope there is enough on the 16th or I'm going to be living with a very grumpy teenager.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by Fukui
Right, thats why:

monday - biceps and shoulders.
tuesday - chest and triceps
wedsday - back and stomach
thursday - legs and calfs forearms (yes forearms!)

By the time the next week comes around to each exercise, each muscle group has had 1 week to recover.

In theory that would be great. In practice, as I mentioned earlier, it is nearly impossible to restrict your exercises to affecting a single muscle group...there tends to be spillover.

The way you've grouped yours together is different from what I've always been taught. Back and biceps go hand-in-hand in my experience. Seated rows, for example, give both a good workout.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Interesting, two views collide!!!

Originally posted by john123
Seated rows, for example, give both a good workout.
Yea, thats why bicep and shoulders; I mean shoudlers and shoulder blades (upper back).

I like to excersize my lower back too which is with stomach (on same day together).

I agree that one can overwork and spill over, you just have to know when is enough, and what machines/free weights to use, working out every day and stopping on the w/k end is fine for me (I sleep 8-9 hours (yes!) and take afternoon 1hr naps), by the time the next week comes around none of my muscles are sore again. You just need to create the environment that is conductive to quick recovery...vitamin supplements, protein intake (I use soy powder), drink lots and lots of water...and most importantly lots of sleep.

I used to take creatine, but that stuff freaks me out...
 
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