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Re: Re: What to do??

Originally posted by sw1tcher
Tell me more about this $30 off deal through valentines. How do I find it? Where can I redeem it? Can I combine this with the Academic discount?

Curious minds want to know.

You could always read the first page of this site on the upper right hand side.:rolleyes:

$30 off $299 or more until Feb 14th. Coupon Code: KQYUV9U97W
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Originally posted by Fukui
Yea, thats why bicep and shoulders; I mean shoudlers and shoulder blades (upper back).

I like to excersize my lower back too which is with stomach (on same day together).

I agree that one can overwork and spill over, you just have to know when is enough, and what machines/free weights to use, working out every day and stopping on the w/k end is fine for me (I sleep 8-9 hours (yes!) and take afternoon 1hr naps), by the time the next week comes around none of my muscles are sore again. You just need to create the environment that is conductive to quick recovery...vitamin supplements, protein intake (I use soy powder), drink lots and lots of water...and most importantly lots of sleep.

I used to take creatine, but that stuff freaks me out...

Soy protein's OK, but I prefer whey...it's absorbed faster. Pretty cheap, too -- shop around and you can get a 5lb tub for just a bit over $20.

Creatine doesn't freak me out. I've taken it over the last several years or so and, other than the fact that it irritates my stomach a bit (especially in the loading phase), haven't had any side effects. I don't take it when I'm in a cutting phase (like I am now) as the two are pretty counterproductive.

Water's the #1 supplement, hands-down. A lot of people consider creatine, or even andro and other prohormones, before they take a step that would be better: just drinking more water. That goes double for people that are taking creatine (which adds water to muscles), or for people using a caffeine-based weight loss supplement (caffeine is a diuretic).

- Fitness John
 
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Originally posted by john123
Soy protein's OK, but I prefer whey...it's absorbed faster. Pretty cheap, too -- shop around and you can get a 5lb tub for just a bit over $20.
Soy is way way more expensive, but it contains all 8 essential amino acids in near equal amounts IFAIR...and genistein/isoflavones wich may help lower LDL, cancer, heart disease, bone loss etc...not to mention antioxidants. I don't eat meat, so I gotta get it from somewhere, (yes a vegetarian with muscles....IT IS POSSIBLE) and whey for me doesn't cut it becuase it it has varying levels of proteins/aminos, and is like some soy products highly processed, whereas the more expensive soy product that I managed to find is as little processed (it has to be processed some or its indigestible) so as to retain the benificial contents...

Anyways, yea I've actually gained alot from using creatine, but I just hear "those stories" of ripped muscles and there hasn't been any long term (tens of years) study on it...not to mention it also upsets my stomach....oh well...:)
 
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Originally posted by Fukui
Soy is way way more expensive, but it contains all 8 essential amino acids in near equal amounts IFAIR...and genistein/isoflavones wich may help lower LDL, cancer, heart disease, bone loss etc...not to mention antioxidants. I don't eat meat, so I gotta get it from somewhere, (yes a vegetarian with muscles....IT IS POSSIBLE) and whey for me doesn't cut it becuase it it has varying levels of proteins/aminos, and is like some soy products highly processed, whereas the more expensive soy product that I managed to find is as little processed (it has to be processed some or its indigestible) so as to retain the benificial contents...

Anyways, yea I've actually gained alot from using creatine, but I just hear "those stories" of ripped muscles and there hasn't been any long term (tens of years) study on it...not to mention it also upsets my stomach....oh well...:)

A lot of people seem to be switching to protein blends...I've noticed what seems to be an increasing number of products that put whey, soy, and casein all in one.

Especially since you don't eat meat, soy's a good choice for all around diet protein.

Out of curiosity -- what soy product do you use?

(I apologize to everyone who cares about iPods and not fitness -- we have unintentially hijacked this thread...)
 
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Originally posted by john123
A lot of people seem to be switching to protein blends...I've noticed what seems to be an increasing number of products that put whey, soy, and casein all in one.

Especially since you don't eat meat, soy's a good choice for all around diet protein.

Out of curiosity -- what soy product do you use?
Its called spirutein. Heard of it?
 
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Originally posted by Fukui
Its called spirutein. Heard of it?

No, I haven't...although I just googled it. Nutritionally at least, it seems to be good stuff.
 
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Originally posted by john123
(I apologize to everyone who cares about iPods and not fitness -- we have unintentially hijacked this thread...)

I was going to say something about that, but I decided not to and I kept on reading... I have to say I am amazed at the amount of thought you guys are putting into this. I can't remember how old john123 is (I'm sure he's mentioned it before), but Fukui you seem a bit young for that (Sorry if that sounds patronizing, but that's not the intent)...

Oh well
 
Americans may be fat, but Brits are low on £'s...

Originally posted by CrackedButter
Woopie doo, i don't expect price cuts either on a 4 month old peice of equipment once it hits european shores while the yanks loard it up with their wonderful pricing.

Thankfully i'm waiting till September and seeing what happens and then i'll make a purchase while i'm on holiday to Japan, even THEY are cheaper than in the UK as well!

Well everything is cheaper than in the U.K. mate. I'm over here for school and can't imagine spending $40 on a 25-CD-R spindle. Everything over here is the same price as dollars but in £'s...so its twice as much...stinking dollar!

In regards to people waiting for a price drop--don't hold your breath. If you've looked at Apple's online store the iPod mInI's been the top seller for weeks...you just don't drop the price on something selling well!
 
Originally posted by Beck446
How about this for revolutionary thinking: Apple holds off releasing anything for a month (to get back on track) and then, whenever they release anything, they can ship it!

exactly, or perhaps they like to give people a bit more time to save up the difference between what things should cost and the actual price apple knocks stuff out at.
 
Earlier someone said these are gonna bomb. I'm not so sure - I've got friends in NY on Monday going to buy two for me and my wife on Monday - storage, size & coolness factor making the choice for us.

So does anyone have advice on how to guarrantee getting them on Monday at the Apple store Soho My friends leave to come back that evening.

Any nice Apple Soho employees care to help.

Finally viva la $:£ exchange rate slightly redresses the UK price difference.
 
want it NOW!`

yes a vegetarian with muscles....IT IS POSSIBLE
Sure if Frank Zane did it way back in the late '70s with a better physique than Arnold (can't be bothered to spell his last name) to beat him at a Mr. Olympia contest then sure it'll work for anyone. Personally I cannot see it happening, without supplements.

Whey (eating her curds & Whey) is pretty nice includes isoflavones if its an isolate source, doesn't bloat your tummy, and is THE highest bioavailable source of protein.

Soy - not sure where I heard or read it but the reason mostly females take it is because it helps regulate estrogen, but adds it significantly in men??????

iPod mini, going over to New York in late February to buy one!! Also does anyone know of any DV Camcorders with Firewire that can use the iPod as storage for video directly thru the Firewire cable??
 
Those waiting for a price reduction soon will have a long wait. Apple will sell all they can make at the current price. Perhaps by next Holiday season we'll see a price reduction. Perhaps.

Also, using the term CompactFlash for a hard driver is wrong. Only solid-state devices are called CompactFlash. It's Apples and Oranges.:)
 
Originally posted by jrober
Earlier someone said these are gonna bomb. I'm not so sure - I've got friends in NY on Monday going to buy two for me and my wife on Monday - storage, size & coolness factor making the choice for us.

So does anyone have advice on how to guarrantee getting them on Monday at the Apple store Soho My friends leave to come back that evening.

Any nice Apple Soho employees care to help.

Finally viva la $:£ exchange rate slightly redresses the UK price difference.

may i ask if you know the warranty and such is good over here on a product bought in the US?
will your friends have to pay tax at customs on arrival back here?

ie, when all is said and done what will you have paid in £?

[edit]appalling spelling[/edit]
 
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Originally posted by Prom1
Sure if Frank Zane did it way back in the late '70s with a better physique than Arnold (can't be bothered to spell his last name) to beat him at a Mr. Olympia contest then sure it'll work for anyone. Personally I cannot see it happening, without supplements.

Frank Zane never beat Arnold. Arnold finished runnerup in 1969 to Sergio Oliva then won from 1970-1975. He retired and came out of retirement in 1980 to win again.

I always admired Frank Zane. I wanted to look like him. He was not a large man but had an incredible physique. But there is no way he could have ever beaten Arnold. Big men always win Mr. Olympia. And Arnold was a big man at 6'2" 250lbs in competition. Small by today's standards but big then. I don't think Frank Zane ever competed at more than 200lbs.

See the <a href="http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/mrolympia/">history of Mr. Olympia </a>.
 
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Originally posted by Fukui
Right, thats why:

monday - biceps and shoulders.
tuesday - chest and triceps
wedsday - back and stomach
thursday - legs and calfs forearms (yes forearms!)

By the time the next week comes around to each exercise, each muscle group has had 1 week to recover.

Excellent recommendations. At most you should train a bodypart twice a week and only one of those times should it be heavy lifting.

I used to work one bodypart a day. I'm too lazy to get in two. Didn't want to spend more than an hour in the gym.

The only time I tried anything differently was when I was using a strength program designed by Virginia Tech's strength coach. I made some amazing gains in three months. Unfortunately, it happened at a time I was out of work and eventually I got another job.

Right now, I'm trying to get remotivated to work out at home. Its hard to do with 11 month old twins. Not much time for working out. But I'm trying to get my motivation back. I've lost a lot of size in the last year, so thats one thing that is helping my motivation. I've also dropped 25 lbs. I actually feel better but I'd like to pack the muscle back on and keep my weight where it is this time.
 
Re: Re: What to do??

Originally posted by sw1tcher
Tell me more about this $30 off deal through valentines. How do I find it? Where can I redeem it? Can I combine this with the Academic discount?

Curious minds want to know.

I got one, probably because I've been such a great Apple customer lately (bought PowerBook and eMac) , but since I'm in Norway i get just $20 off, and a 15GB iPod is $321 to begin with ... typical ... but hey, I'm actually stunned that we get these coupons and stuff in Norway at all.
 
Originally posted by sw1tcher
You left out "be da," as in "these minis are gonna be da bomb." ;)

I thought the same thing at first. I thought, "who wouldn't spend $50 more and get the 15GB model?"

People like my girlfriend, that's who...

I asked her which one she wanted. She only has a few hundred songs and the main thing she wants this for is jogging and going to the gym. So, to her, the iPod's dimensions are more important than the internal storage. And, it actually cost less, too.

Think about it... It's been happening for years. People pay more for smaller devices, even if they don't match up, internally. Take laptops, for example. Granted, it's a little like apples to oranges as iPods are both portable, where as a laptop and desktop are totally different... But you get my point.

And unlike most small devices, the mini is acutally cheaper!

Granted, I still wish they could have released it for $199, but I'll be buying one anyway. And so will a bunch of other people. Then in 6 months, after they milk that price point for all it's worth, they will drop the price to $199 and go after the rest of the masses who were willing to wait for a better deal. Sounds like smart marketing to me.
 
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Originally posted by john123
Water's the #1 supplement, hands-down. A lot of people consider creatine, or even andro and other prohormones, before they take a step that would be better: just drinking more water.
- Fitness John

Na, forget all that nonsense - Just use some Clebuterol, Anadrol, Sust 250, Newbain, Growth Hormones, GHB and and a couple of bumps - your all set! :cool: :D
 
Originally posted by DangerDiabolik
I have a feeling these minis are gonna bomb.

And we will be happy to remind you of this post when they don't.

Later, Frank
 
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Originally posted by john123
Running every day isn't a problem. Depending on your pace, it's either going to be aerobic or anaerobic, but either way, it's good for your cardiovascular system (assuming you're in good health).

It's the lifting 5x a week that's the concern. I used to do that, too. Never really believed what I thought was "hype" about overtraining. I mean, who'd believe that less is more, eh?

But it's so true...unless you are segmenting your lifting regimen REALLY well, I don't see how you can lift 5x a week. You doing abs on its own day? Separating shoulders from everything else? That plus legs; chest/triceps; back/biceps is about the the only way I can figure you can get to 5x a week without serious overtraining...but even on that schedule, you're going to get some duplicative work as it's impossible to totally isolate your lifting to one muscle group...

Sorry for the off topic but someone needs to put an end to this.

Working out 5 days a week is not too much. Professional body builders do it all the time. As long as you don't work the same muscle group on back to back days you are perfectly fine.

End of story. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Later, Frank
 
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Originally posted by frankly
Sorry for the off topic but someone needs to put an end to this.

Working out 5 days a week is not too much. Professional body builders do it all the time. As long as you don't work the same muscle group on back to back days you are perfectly fine.

End of story. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Later, Frank

"Not back to back days" isn't quite enough. I think most of the frequent lifters in this thread have agreed with that by talking about how heavily they segment their workouts with respect to their muscle groups.
 
This thread is so long I don't know if anyone's said this before or not but iPods WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR SALE AT THE APPLE RETAIL STORES UNTIL FRIDAY FEBRUARY 20TH. This new date was updated yesterday (10th).
 
Apple and MINI should team up for integration of the iPod mini into the MINI Cooper...this would help more and more car stereos to work with MP3 devices...sort of like some stereos will let you connect thru audio in....but put a dock sort of feature in the car so you can plop your iPod or iPod mini right into the car....that would be freaking awesome!!!
 
Originally posted by spencecb
Apple and MINI should team up for integration of the iPod mini into the MINI Cooper...this would help more and more car stereos to work with MP3 devices...sort of like some stereos will let you connect thru audio in....but put a dock sort of feature in the car so you can plop your iPod or iPod mini right into the car....that would be freaking awesome!!!

Oh, you mean like the Beetle/iPod promotion about a year ago?
 
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