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Which product do you think Apple will update first?

  • Mac Mini

    Votes: 298 68.7%
  • iPod Nano

    Votes: 36 8.3%
  • iPod HiFi

    Votes: 17 3.9%
  • MacBook

    Votes: 9 2.1%
  • MacBook Pro

    Votes: 31 7.1%
  • iMac

    Votes: 43 9.9%

  • Total voters
    434
  • Poll closed .
Apple fans love to brag that "Macs last longer" - so why is Apple introducing a new product line that's marginally obsolete even before it ships? (By the way, is the HDMI port on the Apple TV the current HDMI 1.3 spec, or is it last year's version?)[/url]

Its so Apple can come out with iTV 2 next year with 1080p and make more profit!
 
In another thread we have been talking "4K" which is "available now".

2540p RAW and 4K RAW formats.

Still image:

http://red.com/images/technology/1.jpg

4K movie link down now.

Rocketman

But 4K is aimed more for (and priced more for) the Hollywood set who want to do theatrical releases that are digital start to finish.

1440p and 2160p have a better chance of showing up in the home theatre than the 4K format!
 
even more profit

Its so Apple can come out with iTV 2 next year with 1080p and make more profit!

They could come out with the Apple TV ][ 1080i this fall, and the Apple TV³ 1080p next spring, and sell three Apple TVs to every fanboi!

BTW, if you're from Canada, shouldn't your avatar be the adopted kid from SP?
 
Well,

the iPod nano makes sense since it's time for an iPod refresh and updating the nano won't bring a rash of "why didn't they just make it like the iPhone with the phone part"

The mac mini makes sense too since it can get a bump to the old CD2 and clear inventory prior to Santa Rosa.

The iMac, etc. rumors, I think are wrong. They will see a bump with Santa Rosa in May/June.
 
The mac mini makes sense too since it can get a bump to the old CD2 and clear inventory prior to Santa Rosa.

The iMac, etc. rumors, I think are wrong. They will see a bump with Santa Rosa in May/June.
Perhaps, but the Merom/Clovertown rollouts have shown that Apple doesn't feel any need to use the current parts in their systems - they'll continue to use the older generation long after the other PC vendors have upgraded.

Where is the 8 CPU Mac Pro, after all? Everyone else has the quad core dual socket systems available....

Or, perhaps OSX falls on its face with 8 CPUs, so Apple will have to wait to 10.5 before releasing an 8 CPU system.
 
I really hope new products are kicked out every week...maybe not, because then we will go along time without any announcements, and that is really not fun.
 
the mini clearly needs the update, but I don't know. Merom was available when the mini was last updated and apple chose not to use it. So why would they do so now? Makes more sense to me to wait until santa rosa so the mini can get a new processor and the GMA x3000. bumping it to merom now would just be the update that should have been done 6 months ago.

This actually makes the most sense, they don't want the lowest-entry-level-mac to have the same innards as the consumer level macbooks, and one iMac.

Mac Mini gets a C2D and 802.11n (so everything will have it).
MacBook /Pro and iMac move to Santa Rosa, justifying the price point above the Mini and justifying the Mini being below the MacBook et all.

It's pretty simple thinking, and is the most logical... I just hope it happens relatively soon.

I'd say for a time also, evenything would be C2D, and then the slightly higher level consumer and pro machines would get the extra bump with Santa Rosa and a C2D.
 
I'd like to see updated Mac minis with a Core 2 Duo processor, HDMI out and draft 802.11n capable Airport Extreme card.

I have a 1.42 G4 which still works wonderfully, but I want more speed to deal with 10,000 photos (which will mostly be RAW files) per year... I love the form factor, it works for me...

C2D, more base memory, larger and/or faster drive and offer the video from the MB pro.
 
makes sense, if you assume that your customers are idiots

This actually makes the most sense, they don't want the lowest-entry-level-mac to have the same innards as the consumer level macbooks, and one iMac.

The MiniMac, the MacBook, and the iMac are three completely different systems.

If someone needs a laptop, why would he worry that the low end desktop might have the same processor - the MiniMac doesn't have the screen, keyboard, battery and portability that he's looking for!

Same for the iMac - although a more powerful MiniMac might mean more sales for Apple, not fewer. A lot of people don't want all-in-ones for various reasons, and the huge gap between the MiniMac and the MaxiMac tower sends them to the PC aisle. A more powerful MiniMac or a MiniTowerMac would result in one more switcher - not in a loss for Apple.
 
please, please, please... Just release an orange Nano and a tranlucent orange iMac!!!! Please? I want my translucent plastic back!!!! :D


one more orange nano here!
waited for a long time since iPod mini released...
(now i got orange shuffle already...before its announcement, i just bought a silver shuffle:( )
 
The mini is a budget computer, and it was left behind on purpose in my opinion. The update will most likely bring it in line with Apple's current offerings, just in time for Apple to update the rest of the line (iMac, MacBook, and MacBook Pro) to Santa Rosa in the next couple of months.

If they're going to leave it behind, it wouldn't hurt to keep it in line with comparable offerings by dropping the price. I know everyone's excuse is that the software makes the product worth it, but for what you get, the price is high. In today's world, a budget computer is not $600 bucks sans monitor. While Apple avoids real low-end configs, the prices still could stand to come down on the Mini.

The Mini really should have an entry at $499. That's an important barrier to break for the entire Macintosh lineup and could assist in also debunking paradigms about Apple.
 
I hope they make the Mini on par with the base model Macbook. 1.83 GHz Core 2 Duo, GMA 950, 512 RAM and say 60 GB hard drive. I'd totally buy that for the current price of the low end Mini. Hook it up to some oversized LCD display and one of those Elgato TV cards and I got a nice little server/media center.

And, again, I'm curious as to what part of this preferred, upgraded spec is the deal maker for using a Mini as a media centre, when compared to its current spec ...?

The Mini is already available with 120Gb and 160Gb HDDs as BTO options from Apple. If you need more than that, then this will put another 320Gb of storage on without spoiling the aesthetics:

http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=14973133&nplm=TL496

As noted in my previous post, the Miglia TVMax in preference to one of the Elgato TV Tuner solutions preserves the form factor, but takes the video-crunching load off the CPU, and the Mini quite cheerfully uses my 26" LCD TV as a display.

The DVD burner means that you can archive TV shows that you've recorded on a rolling basis and keep the majority of your HDD free for scratch disk purposes, or for your music ...

Cheers!

Jim
 
why would apple ship a **** ton of macs with tiger on it when they know that most mac owners are holding out for leopard to be preinstalled, this is a simple representation of supply and demand. Sure they may update a few of the tech specs on the hardware in coorelation with the release of leopard (steve won't give a speech when he only has one product to release) but all of this is just a representation of the fact that leopard is coming out soon

The general public has no clue about Leopard. Do you really think the average consumer is sitting at home waiting for Leopard to get their next Mac. NO, most people go online or to the sotre and buy when they need.want something. The people on this forum and all the other Mac forums are the minority.
 
The MiniMac, the MacBook, and the iMac are three completely different systems.

If someone needs a laptop, why would he worry that the low end desktop might have the same processor - the MiniMac doesn't have the screen, keyboard, battery and portability that he's looking for!

Same for the iMac - although a more powerful MiniMac might mean more sales for Apple, not fewer. A lot of people don't want all-in-ones for various reasons, and the huge gap between the MiniMac and the MaxiMac tower sends them to the PC aisle. A more powerful MiniMac or a MiniTowerMac would result in one more switcher - not in a loss for Apple.

Exactly. I was with emac G4. After that i switched back to PC. Why? Because I don't like all-in-one approach to any product, and Mac Pro is too expensive for me, when Mac mini is too weak
 
You can't put a 3.5" drive in the Mini. Not without changing the form factor, which is highly unlikely. Nor is it any more likely to see it become a user serviceable unit. There's more chance of a mid-range tower before any such changes to the Mini. Core 2 Duo, Santa Rosa & the X3000 GPU, and 802.11n are all almost for certain upgrades within the next cycle or so, and the HDMI port is anyone's guess.

I don't think it's highly unlikely at all. It's been a few years since the mini as we know it was released, and the last update of any kind was quite some time ago. It's due for some tweaking in form-factor/design.

I think they will keep the same footprint, but go taller for the next model - at least on the high end. They may keep a small, lower priced model. Perhaps take the current high end, drop the price to $499, perhaps with some small changes.

A new model with a C2D, 3.5" HDD, more ports, improved video, maybe some better built in speakers would be nice. I figure they would only need to move about 2-2.5" up to accommodate all that; about the height of the mini plus the miniStack HDD enclosure available now. That makes room for the HDD and some additional cooling space and frees up the volume that the 2.5" HDD occupied for better (stereo) speakers, and some more cooling space.

Not sure if the C2D/X3000 run much hotter than the CD/GMA in the mini now, but a 3.5" HDD would add some heat, and I'd rather they used the space for additional air movement, passive radiators, etc than add more/louder fans to a new mini.
 
Mini's will stay Mini's but with C2D - so that Apple can boast how all their Macs have C2D...

I think more of the redesigned Mac Pros, take the new enclosure and put a headless iMac in it for the midrange. Though, I don't know if Apple is listening. It seems that after I post this idea, people start to post a "Why? You can get an iMac!"

Just can't get it in their heads that we need a midrange desktop, not a midrange all-in-one...
 
I don't think it's highly unlikely at all. It's been a few years since the mini as we know it was released, and the last update of any kind was quite some time ago. It's due for some tweaking in form-factor/design.

I think they will keep the same footprint, but go taller for the next model - at least on the high end. They may keep a small, lower priced model. Perhaps take the current high end, drop the price to $499, perhaps with some small changes.

A new model with a C2D, 3.5" HDD, more ports, improved video, maybe some better built in speakers would be nice. I figure they would only need to move about 2-2.5" up to accommodate all that; about the height of the mini plus the miniStack HDD enclosure available now. That makes room for the HDD and some additional cooling space and frees up the volume that the 2.5" HDD occupied for better (stereo) speakers, and some more cooling space.

Not sure if the C2D/X3000 run much hotter than the CD/GMA in the mini now, but a 3.5" HDD would add some heat, and I'd rather they used the space for additional air movement, passive radiators, etc than add more/louder fans to a new mini.
I'm torn debating what Apple with do with the Mini. They should have made it accommodate a 3.5" drive when they first designed it so that it would work as a media center.
If they made a larger enclosure and put a 3.5" drive, that is LESS expensive than the current mini. The Mini is often compared to a cheap desktop PC, but its components are much more expensive. The Mini is really a headless Macbook.
Fujitsu has a new 300GB 2.5" drive coming out this quarter.

The Mini isn't really that weak. I'm not sure what Apple should do for a midrange desktop system.
 
To the people that call the Mini weak. Have you actually USED a mini? For all intents and purposes they run rather well, in fact run very quickly, especially the last updated models. Provided the apps running are all universal binary, one shouldn't have any issues with the mini.

I was seriously considering getting a Mac Pro, but because I plan on moving I have to consider my system's convenience when it moves with me. Minis are the P.E.R.F.E.C.T desktop computer in this regard. It's so small I can stick it in my backpack and basically have my entire workstation with me.

I do believe that I will buy a mini, but I'll be holding out waiting to see what they actually do with it. I'm not hurting for a new computer as I own a Macbook, but I need a good solid desktop that also gives me the option of being able to comfortably lug it anywhere I go. So far the mini is the only computer I have seen that provides this other than laptops. People don't give the mini as much credit as it deserves.
 
I just hope the update comes soon...I am almost convincing one colleague at work and my bro in law, both traditional PC users, to switch to a Mini and have a great Media Center Mac...let's just hope the new one comes soon... :rolleyes:
 
Same for the iMac - although a more powerful MiniMac might mean more sales for Apple, not fewer. A lot of people don't want all-in-ones for various reasons, and the huge gap between the MiniMac and the MaxiMac tower sends them to the PC aisle. A more powerful MiniMac or a MiniTowerMac would result in one more switcher - not in a loss for Apple.

This is my exact situation. I have not switched but would like to. I do not wish to get an iMac because I don't like the all in one setup. The Mac Pro, for me is like using a bazooka to kill a mosquito. The Mini is perfect for me needs in concept. I have been waiting for at least an upgrade to C2D (and Leopard of course). But now with Santa Rosa around the corner for the rest of the systems, I'm not sure it makes sense to pull the trigger on a Mini if they merely update it to C2D. Honestly, I'm not sure there is a Mac for my needs considering the enormous gap between the Mini and the Pro.
 
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