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Will the iPod touch get another update or will it be discontinued?

  • The iPod touch has, at least, one more update forthcoming

    Votes: 111 55.5%
  • The iPod touch product line won't be updated and will be discontinued

    Votes: 89 44.5%

  • Total voters
    200
Since there are a lot of rumors on the iPod Touch 6th Generation, you can bet it might show up before the end of 2014. To me, if the iPod Touch 6th Generation were to be as big as the iPhone 6 Plus, it can be a good thing and a bad thing. It's going to be iPod Touch 6th Generation VS iPad Mini just like 13" MacBook Air VS 13" Retina MacBook Pro.

"iPod is a declining business" said Tim Cook, but he didn't mention which iPod. It can't be iPod as a whole because here in Japan, there are a lot of people who prefer the iPod Touch over the iPhone due to its price and free JR WiFi. As for a phone, you can always use iPhone 3G or iPhone 3Gs if you want. It can still make a call.

Will Apple kill the iPod Touch? Yes, they will, but not this year and definitely not next year or the year after. Some day in the future, iPod Touch will play its final.
 
I think the iPod Touch might be discontinued, either that or a huge, huge update. Not just a new iPod Touch 6, I'm thinking some a bit more note worthy than internal specs upgraded. I'm more excited about this event than I was about the September one because the September one was always going to be about iPhone and iOS 8.
 
The iPod touch is the perfect gateway product. I think they will put the A7 chip in it eventually, but if they don't do that by next year, then because I do not need an iPhone and I like the 4" form factor, that if there is no update next year then I will purchase a used 5s.
 
Of note, more people commenting seem to agree that the iPod touch will be discontinued whereas the poll responses seem to reflect the opposite.

Depends on the color gamut and resolution of the screen. If it's low gamut and remains hard on my eyes, no. If it's something closer to the Air on the inside and better screen, I might consider it.

This is huge. If you look at the pre-iPhone 6/6Plus landscape of what Apple was offering, you had the iPhone 5s/5c and the fifth generation iPod touch, which all had the same exact LCD panel as that of the iPhone 5, which had amazing color gamut, and you had the iPad Air, which has the same color gamut as the third and fourth generations of iPad and those panels all had amazing color gamut compared to the current retina iPad mini which has the color gamut of the iPhone 4s at best.

That said, given that they have a panel of that size already in the iPhone 6 Plus, they'd probably have one in a 5.5" iPod touch or 5.5" iPad nano as it wouldn't be hard to just use the same panel twice.

Ironically, I was one of those folks who used their iPhone like an iPod touch (movies, music etc.) I never bought a touch because it was close in price to the subsidized iPhones and the innards weren't as up to date.

Since I need a larger screen, and do not want to pay through the nose for iPhone I'd very curious about 5.5" touch if it met my needs.

I've never been huge on the iPhone. Though, I'd imagine that if the iPhone was on Verizon before the Motorola Droid was, I would've probably switched from being an iPod touch user to being an iPhone user and not have worried one way or the other about the iPod touch from then on.

Instead, I've been using Android for my phone, and an iPod touch as a companion device and the duo have worked together quite well. That said, I'm growing annoyed with Android's antics from the standpoint of it being a device that always has internet and, more importantly, takes and receives phone calls, so I might switch when it comes to be iPhone 6s time.

That being said, I'd probably still want an iPod touch for the purposes of just being a secondary device to have at which point, I'd probably opt for a 4.7" hypothetical iPod touch and an iPhone 6s Plus. Then again, I really don't see any 5.5" device being lumped in as an iPod and not an iPad.

Not sure if it is dead or alive but recent talk by Mr. Cook makes me think maybe one more generation before they stop creating iPods all together.

What talk do you speak of? Where did you hear it?

People are citing a lot of here-say, but with no supporting facts or articles or actual citations, it holds no weight in reality.

I was poiting at music. You can have same spects which ipod touch has, on other apple devices but it won't be same. People are allready having hard time on spending a day without charging their iphones, I don't think they would drain battery even more with listening music. ipad mini is really oversized for carry around and taking it out of pocket for changing track. So if you really like to listen music. Ipod touch is perfect mini device with so much more abilty. after all millions of tracks and albums on itunes,and other investions on music by apple it doesn't make sense to let a mp3 player fade away.

Really, the iPod nano, if given bigger capacities, could fulfill all of these needs. The only one that it couldn't really do would be to download music from the iTunes store. They could very easily give it WiFi and enable it to join networks solely for this purpose (as they had originally intended with the first generation iPod touch) or they could do what Amazon did with the first generation Kindle and give it extremely limited cellular capability for accessing the iTunes store. But at that point, I'm not sure that feature matters TOO much.

Don't get me wrong, I love the iPod touch and would wish that Apple keep making them forever, but I think, in their eyes, the iPhone and the iPod nano could probably meet these needs just fine for the majority of users.

That's kinda what I said. It's just 2014 so we're still within the 2-year mark. Besides, the iPod Touch has often been announced/released later than the iPhones anyway. If the iPod touch doesn't get updated this year, I wouldn't count on Apple releasing a new iPod Touch ever.

I'm personally not counting on Apple releasing a new iPod touch ever again. Also, we're technically outside of the 2 year mark as iPods have never received an update later than October 4th (the 5th generation iPod with video being the only exception to that rule that I can recall in semi-recent memory). We're in October of 2014, the 5th gen iPod touch was released in September 2012. The only reason to assume that there may be an update this year is that there is still another announcement pending for iPads and (likely) Mac hardware as well as OS X Yosemite in which to also include any iPod related news.

Then again, if there was to be any iPod related announcements, you'd think that Apple would use THAT time to discontinue the iPod classic and not during the iPhone event one month prior.

As for hardware being 2 generations behind, Apple always gimps iPod Touch internals. Most often, it's half the RAM. With the 5g, the A5 CPU was good enough they managed to get away with using that. Besides, they wouldn't want the 5g Touch to have better internals than the iPad mini. :p

The third generation iPod touch was actually FASTER than its contemporary iPhone (the iPhone 3GS) as was the second generation than its contemporary iPhone (the iPhone 3G), only the first, fourth, and fifth gen have been behind their contemporary iPhone counterparts. Even so, the only reason for Apple to not have included an A6 in the first generation iPad mini was that it was too thin. Otherwise, an A6 would've been fine to be alongside the A6X in the full-sized fourth gen iPad from a marketing standpoint. If it was too thin for an iPad mini, then it was definitely too thin for the fifth gen iPod touch.

That being said the second generation (retina) iPad mini has the A7, and the iPod touch hasn't been updated since the A7 found in said iPad mini and the iPhone 5s came out. It's safe to say that, at this point, if the iPad mini gets the CPU, the iPod touch can as well unless Apple is intentionally crippling it.

Or... they could pull a "Mac Pro" and wait FOREVER and then release something mind blowing. :cool: Honestly at this point, everyone (not literally) has a smartphone. Why bother buying a second device?

Because having a second device is often life-savingly handy. And/or you use an Android as your phone and still want iOS there too. Really if you want to do anything on anything other than your phone, you have no other option except an out of contract phone or an iPod touch...and sometimes that's handy, especially if your phone has limited battery life, which all phones do.

Not all countries have nice operator contrats and they still need a inexpensive iOS access.

And not all people want contracts. Is so difficult to understand???

And finally, Apps have more profit than iDevices. So, give a retirement to iPod Touch is not clever.

While I agree with you, I think we're in the minority and I think Apple doesn't agree with us as I don't think a majority feels the need for such a device anymore.

And again, niche.

Not all people can afford an iPhone to be sure. However, how many people must absolutely have an iPod Touch versus, say, a Moto G ($150-200 without sevice contract) or an iPad Mini? I have a Moto G which I use wifi-only as basically an Android version of the iPod Touch and it works pretty great. Bonus, I can transfer or get a SIM card for it in case my primary phone breaks or gets lost.

You only get one option for a contract-less iOS device that is 5.5" or smaller, and it's the iPod touch. The Moto G is great, if Android is your thing. I've got an Android phone, so for me to also have a pocket-sized iOS device, that means I have to get either an iPod touch or an out-of-contract iPhone. If 64GB iPhone 5s models were still on sale and at $400 a pop, I'd go that route. Hell, if the 5c came in those sizes and at those prices, I'd buy one to replace my fifth generation iPod touch, but they're way too expensive. Are my needs niche? Maybe. You pointed out an option that Android users have to fulfill those needs. iOS users only have the iPod touch for that until the iPhone drops in price.



Would I like to have an update to a 4.7" or 5.5" iPod touch? Yes actually. With Continuity, I'm sure I'll find more uses for the Touch. I've been holding off on purchasing a 5g iPt hoping we'll get an update during the iPad event this month. That said, I have to be realistic.

Having multiple devices is useful. Period. Especially when it comes to services and things that pick up where you left off. Facebook Messenger and Google Hangouts have long enjoyed those features and it's far more convenient to be reachable on multiple devices, again, in case one goes out.

Unfortunately if it isn't dead it's on critical life support.

I love having one for my son, and bought one for my daughter for when she starts showing interest too (she's 1 and he's 3 almost 4).

Sadly, if I had to bet, I'd say dead, and I base that on 3 things:

1) Sales vs. R&D & Production Costs
2) Almost complete lack of leaks
and
3) The iPad Mini

I also think that product placement on the website is telling. It's pretty clear to me they have relegated the touch to classic status, and that while it may stick around (and see some price drops) at some point it will just be gone.

I'm considering upgrading my son to my old 5S, so he'd at least have GPS, but it's not what I'd prefer. I'd much rather have a 5.5" touch (and would pay $399+ for one), but I doubt it's gonna happen.

:(

This is a logical prediction and for logical reasons. It is also interesting to note the commonality of everyone thinking that the iPad mini is at least partially responsible. (For the record, I am in partial agreement to this.)

Since there are a lot of rumors on the iPod Touch 6th Generation, you can bet it might show up before the end of 2014.

What rumors? Where? Can you cite them? So far, to my knowledge, there's been no word of it happening.


To me, if the iPod Touch 6th Generation were to be as big as the iPhone 6 Plus, it can be a good thing and a bad thing. It's going to be iPod Touch 6th Generation VS iPad Mini just like 13" MacBook Air VS 13" Retina MacBook Pro.

...except the iPhone 6 Plus and the hypothetical 5.5" iPod touch/iPad nano would both carry a 5.5" screen and run iPhone apps only and the iPad mini would have a 7.9" screen and primarily run iPad apps or iPhone apps in a rather unpleasant blown up version. Not sure that's a fair comparison.

"iPod is a declining business" said Tim Cook, but he didn't mention which iPod. It can't be iPod as a whole because here in Japan, there are a lot of people who prefer the iPod Touch over the iPhone due to its price and free JR WiFi. As for a phone, you can always use iPhone 3G or iPhone 3Gs if you want. It can still make a call.[/QUOTE]

As soon as the iPhone is made to be more appealing and just as accessible as an iPod touch, the iPod touch will have no reason for existing. With enough people buying these things subsidized, it'll be hard to convince Apple that this isn't the norm enough to offer it in any other way at a reasonable price; so, for them, they're already there.

That said, I have four iPod touches, two 64GB and two 16GB. All of them combined still cost less than a single iPhone 6 Plus out of contract. I empathize with you. I don't think Apple empathizes with us and I think their numbers show it.

Will Apple kill the iPod Touch? Yes, they will, but not this year and definitely not next year or the year after. Some day in the future, iPod Touch will play its final.

Again, just because we like it and we use it doesn't mean that Apple will care. Again, I'm encouraging all of us to refrain from letting love for the iPod touch to cloud whether or not we think Apple will act one way or the other.

I think the iPod Touch might be discontinued, either that or a huge, huge update. Not just a new iPod Touch 6, I'm thinking some a bit more note worthy than internal specs upgraded. I'm more excited about this event than I was about the September one because the September one was always going to be about iPhone and iOS 8.

While Apple has often separated the events, the discontinuation of the iPod classic last month as opposed to coinciding with a would-be iPod announcement seems indicative that there won't be an iPod announcement. Internal specs and a larger screen plus additions to be put in parity with an iPhone more powerful than the iPhone 5/5c would be the bare minimum to keep the product line viable at this point.
 
Of note, more people commenting seem to agree that the iPod touch will be discontinued whereas the poll responses seem to reflect the opposite.



This is huge. If you look at the pre-iPhone 6/6Plus landscape of what Apple was offering, you had the iPhone 5s/5c and the fifth generation iPod touch, which all had the same exact LCD panel as that of the iPhone 5, which had amazing color gamut, and you had the iPad Air, which has the same color gamut as the third and fourth generations of iPad and those panels all had amazing color gamut compared to the current retina iPad mini which has the color gamut of the iPhone 4s at best.

That said, given that they have a panel of that size already in the iPhone 6 Plus, they'd probably have one in a 5.5" iPod touch or 5.5" iPad nano as it wouldn't be hard to just use the same panel twice.



I've never been huge on the iPhone. Though, I'd imagine that if the iPhone was on Verizon before the Motorola Droid was, I would've probably switched from being an iPod touch user to being an iPhone user and not have worried one way or the other about the iPod touch from then on.

Instead, I've been using Android for my phone, and an iPod touch as a companion device and the duo have worked together quite well. That said, I'm growing annoyed with Android's antics from the standpoint of it being a device that always has internet and, more importantly, takes and receives phone calls, so I might switch when it comes to be iPhone 6s time.

That being said, I'd probably still want an iPod touch for the purposes of just being a secondary device to have at which point, I'd probably opt for a 4.7" hypothetical iPod touch and an iPhone 6s Plus. Then again, I really don't see any 5.5" device being lumped in as an iPod and not an iPad.



What talk do you speak of? Where did you hear it?

People are citing a lot of here-say, but with no supporting facts or articles or actual citations, it holds no weight in reality.

First of, you can find that info here, apparently it was very early this year:

www.idownloadblog.com/2014/01/27/tim-cook-ipod-declining/


At this point whatever mobile device I use, I want it have the best screen possible. My eyes being comfortable while reading is paramount, so whatever gamut and resolution is used for a future Apple mobile products, it has to be comfortable for me to read.

I am very happy with my $20 Samsung flip phone. I do not use the texting feature, just for calls. I've got an ancient iPod Nano holding the fort musically until I get something else.

At any rate, we'll see what happens.
 
Wishful thinking?

I voted that there could be one more update. I wondered if it was wishful thinking on my part as I clicked the vote. I'd love to see an updated iPT. Apple wants to sell iPhones. Maybe the iPT is considered to be an item that takes away phone sales.

I'd love an iPT with a larger screen even a bendy one :)
 
I said I was guessing. There are many missing features on the iPod Touch like Touch ID, NFC for Apple Pay, and Apple Watch compatibility.

I wonder if iOS 9 will be available for A5 devices...

A lot of those features require an internet connection so unless each retailer offering Apple Pay also has free-wifi it won't happen, plus the iPods are directed more at children who obviously don't need Apple Pay.
 
Personally, while I'd love for there to be another generation of iPod touch, especially with the iPhone 6's 4.7" screen and at least an A7 (if not an A8) processor, and maybe TouchID with ApplePay support - I don't believe there'll be one...it looks like it will not receive updates and then be quietly discontinued.
Oh dear God, please no. Some of us like our iPods along while working out/running and have hands smaller than glove size 12, thus easy one-handed access to the entire display without any shifting the device in the hand or precision thumb-stretching is a sacred icon of functionality.

I would love the faster processors though. I've stayed with iOS 6 on my iPod Touch 5 all this time because iOS 7 was a dog in comparison. Higher capacity would be nice too. If SanDisk can get 128GB on a microSD, you can't tell me there's not enough room in an iPod for at least that much.

Unfortunately I'm in the same boat. I'm a big iPod Touch fan and really, really would like an updated one, but I have a feeling it's not going to happen.
 
Oh dear God, please no. Some of us like our iPods along while working out/running and have hands smaller than glove size 12, thus easy one-handed access to the entire display without any shifting the device in the hand or precision thumb-stretching is a sacred icon of functionality.

I would love the faster processors though. I've stayed with iOS 6 on my iPod Touch 5 all this time because iOS 7 was a dog in comparison. Higher capacity would be nice too. If SanDisk can get 128GB on a microSD, you can't tell me there's not enough room in an iPod for at least that much.

Unfortunately I'm in the same boat. I'm a big iPod Touch fan and really, really would like an updated one, but I have a feeling it's not going to happen.

of course they can get the 128GB, its apple, they're greedy *******s


LMAO at setting the base price at 16GB for the 6 (which is good marketing though, because it sells the 64GB) and having the free iPhone 5C with 8 GB.

lol 8gb when the OS takes roughly 4-5 GB
 
STOP thinking about SINGLE CONSUMERS. Apples heading head strong with B2B apps for the work industry, I've been in this for 4 years now and there were a couple companies/developers ahead of us too.


yeah, i dont see the iTouch getting discontinued soon.

Unless they want Businesses from retailers to manufacturers, to warehouses to buy Used iPhones for POS, Inventory, and scan and pack and get no cut out of it

but thats not apple, they want a CUT of everything.


No business is going to spend extra for off contract iPhones when theres iTouches for much cheaper, otherwise they're going to buy Used iPhones. Not to mention buying ONE used iPhone is hard (make sure its unlocked, functioning, no pass codes etc etc) buying 10? 50? 100? 1000? ridiculous


Even for big businesses like Lowes, are they going to buy a 100 or 1000 off contract iPhones or 100 or 1000 iTouches? (Mid sized companies would buy 10-100, Big companies like lowes, target, walmart, would buy 1000+)

(all estimates is WITHOUT TAXES)
iPhones = $65,000 or $650,000 iTouch = $20,000 or $200,000

your talking about $45,000 or $450,000 in unnecessary expenses, And if companies are using iPods/iPhones, Most likely they're going to get Linea Pro Devices (Barcode & Credit Card Scanner, the one they use in Apple Stores)


with that the totals are

iPhone+LineaPro Device = $115,000 or $1,150,000

iTouch+Linea Pro Device = $90,000 or $900,000




You buy in bulk the price matters, I'm sure there will be wholesale price discounts if you buy in the 1000s (not sure about 100s)

but regardless, Why would you pay more for an off contract iPhone which you're not going to even need a data plan for, when theres an iTouch option?


i really dont see the iTouch going anywhere soon, because of the business industry period.

LOL and this is NOT including the App Licensing (the apps that companies would use), which would range from $250-$1000 per device.


Apple gets rid of the iTouch, it just gives Android OS business apps (which are pretty much non-existent right now) a foot in the door.



i dont see that happening, apple wants what iOS is to be what Windows was for the business industry, take 95% of that market (or is it 98%?).

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And again, niche.

Not all people can afford an iPhone to be sure. However, how many people must absolutely have an iPod Touch versus, say, a Moto G ($150-200 without sevice contract) or an iPad Mini? I have a Moto G which I use wifi-only as basically an Android version of the iPod Touch and it works pretty great. Bonus, I can transfer or get a SIM card for it in case my primary phone breaks or gets lost.

Apparently, my quote for 40 million iPhones sold a year was incorrect. That was just one quarter. From their latest annual SEC filing, Apple sold 72 million iPhones in 2011, 125M in 2012 and 150M in 2013. Meanwhile, they sold 42.6M iPods (not just Touch but across all lines) in 2011, 35.2M in 2012 and 26.4M in 2013. iPads, they sold 32.4M in 2011, 58.3M in 2012 and 71M in 2013. iPods are a rapidly declining market. While I'm sure other companies would be thrilled to have 26.4 million in sales and $4.4 billion in revenue that the iPod line generates, Apple just has higher expectations.

Would I like to have an update to a 4.7" or 5.5" iPod touch? Yes actually. With Continuity, I'm sure I'll find more uses for the Touch. I've been holding off on purchasing a 5g iPt hoping we'll get an update during the iPad event this month. That said, I have to be realistic.

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I've seen barcode scanner cases for the iPad mini (at Verizon). Case had a handstrap which makes it easy to carry around and use.




the scanner sleeve is unreasonable many environments.

if your in a retail store with a lot of inventory its a bother to carry around a iPad/iPad mini especially with that sleeve.

the iTouch/iPhone you can carry in a pocket or on a belt clip

and the scanning, you have to aim the WHOLE iPad, i tested, our customers tested it. and they hated it. Especially at the trade shows as well, they have to hold the iPad, grab the garment hold the Hang tag and scan/aim the whole iPad with ONE hand?

yeah it isnt reasonable. they're just not good. you need one hand like those Barcode Guns.
 
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STOP thinking about SINGLE CONSUMERS. Apples heading head strong with B2B apps for the work industry, I've been in this for 4 years now and there were a couple companies/developers ahead of us too.

yeah, i dont see the iTouch getting discontinued soon.

i really dont see the iTouch going anywhere soon, because of the business industry period.

LOL and this is NOT including the App Licensing (the apps that companies would use), which would range from $250-$1000 per device.
We're not saying it will be discontinued immediately.

The iPod Classic (6th gen) was originally released in 2007, last updated in 2009 and Apple has continued manufacturing and selling them until recently. For the use-case you're suggesting, I don't see a reason why Apple has to make brand new iPod Touches. They just have to continue selling the 5th gen. I imagine you'd have to buy new sleeves for the new iPod Touch if Apple ever releases one anyway and the sleeves appear to be a lot more expensive than the iPod. :rolleyes:
 
Continuing to sell 5th gen without a sucessor or hw update, is not a clever move.

And once again, Apple has huge profits during the year with App Store.
Iphone profits are higher than App Store during the first 2-3 month sales of new iphones.

Restricting the App Store only to expensive and popular devices, is not a clever move.

Google and Microsoft are not sleeping and their own ubiquitous OS are better and better.
 
I don't believe its just us here on this board who think a 5.5" iPod touch or at least an updated iPod touch is a good idea. I truly believe Apple does too. There is a huge market for a 4.7" or 5.5" iPod touch. Kids & teens for one. It'd be a great gaming machine. Much better than carrying an ipad around. And for adults too. There are many tech savy people who realize you DONT need a phone to make & receive calls. I make & receive calls on my iPod 5G & iPad mini all the time. In fact, I did away with my smartphone years ago, and haven't looked back. Just as people are cutting the cable tv cord, more & more people are realizing you do not need to be a prisoner of expensive contracts via the greedy telecom companies. There ARE alternatives.
 
Yep. I know of several people who have said if Apple doesn't refresh the IPT this year they will buy an iPhone instead. This is why the iPod Touch must die.

The iPT is not competition for iPhone. I know many people who don't want or use iPhone but use iPT. We all know someone who prefers one product over another.

Cook cannot produce dependable software for iPhone. That is the issue to remedy. Killing another product will not debug iOS 8.
 
We're not saying it will be discontinued immediately.

The iPod Classic (6th gen) was originally released in 2007, last updated in 2009 and Apple has continued manufacturing and selling them until recently. For the use-case you're suggesting, I don't see a reason why Apple has to make brand new iPod Touches. They just have to continue selling the 5th gen. I imagine you'd have to buy new sleeves for the new iPod Touch if Apple ever releases one anyway and the sleeves appear to be a lot more expensive than the iPod. :rolleyes:

the 3rd and 4th gen used the same sleeve.


the iPod Touch 5th gen came out two years ago, and current customers wouldn't buy new iPods or iPod sized unless they needed more.


so they would only need to buy sleeves for the new iPods, but regardless if they wanted more devices they would've had to anyways.


Im just stating the fact that Getting rid of the iTouch is unreasonable.

If you're a company your trying to reduce expenses, not waste it on crap you dont need.

and with that price difference hell, it might be better for them o hire an android developer in-house and get cheap android devices (given that its safe from malware and spyware)
 
And don't think all the people will buy an iPhone with the retirement of iPod touch. If it happens, much people will probably buy a smartphone.....but not an iPhone.
 
And don't think all the people will buy an iPhone with the retirement of iPod touch. If it happens, much people will probably buy a smartphone.....but not an iPhone.
Yep I can't really afford iphone, if ipod not coming out
I will go for xperia z3 compact .
 
I can buy an iPhone but its a waste of money for what i need. I don't a need a smartphone. I only buy it when i won't have alternative.
 
I have the iPhone 6 Plus and it's almost impossible to carry around while working out. Also, I have it in a great Incipio case out of which it is almost impossible to pry (it is really a tight fit), so putting the phone in a holder and then back in the case is not a happy idea.

I would really like a Nano just for music while working out. A touch would be fine but a Nano does what I want and it's very light. But, will it survive? We will find out on the 16th I guess.
 
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