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iPod with Color Display and Bluetooth?

whatever happened to "Apple Computer" ??

paulypants said:
Bring 'em on...after Dual 3Ghz Dual Core G5s with PCI Express and 533Mhz DDR RAM. ;)
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Once upon a time, the folks in Cupertino made computers named "Macintosh". Guess that no longer matters....
 
clayjohanson said:
I'm concerned that, as with many other Bluetooth-enabled devices, iPods equipped with Bluetooth will be susceptible to hacking by folks with Bluetooth-equipped laptops and special software, a la Paris Hilton's, Fred Durst's, and Vida Guerra's cellphones. I'd hate for someone to delete files from, add files to (can you imagine if they transferred embarassing or illegal porn to your iPod?), or even know what's on my iPod.

Don't tell me it can't happen.
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Those weren't hacked through bluetooth homie. Tmobile server problems.
 
clayjohanson said:
I'm concerned that, as with many other Bluetooth-enabled devices, iPods equipped with Bluetooth will be susceptible to hacking by folks with Bluetooth-equipped laptops and special software, a la Paris Hilton's, Fred Durst's, and Vida Guerra's cellphones. I'd hate for someone to delete files from, add files to (can you imagine if they transferred embarassing or illegal porn to your iPod?), or even know what's on my iPod.

Don't tell me it can't happen.
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Sure it can happen, but it didn't happen to any of them. In the case of Paris Hilton and Fred Durst, they made it easy to find their passwords and the data was pulled off of T-Mobile's servers. In the case of Vida Guerra, wasn't that simply a case of the intended recipient doing some sharing? Stop buying into the FUD, Bluetooth is safe if you lock it down properly.
 
AidenShaw said:
Once upon a time, the folks in Cupertino made computers named "Macintosh". Guess that no longer matters....
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What? I don't follow.

Is your icon a Maine Coon?
 
LaMerVipere said:
Interesting. But I think the iPod is fine as is, just drop the iPod 20GB, lower the price of the iPod photo & drop the 'photo' from the name, include an 80GB model, and start including a firewire cord again! :mad:
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i'm pretty sure this is what will happen. the drives used in the ipod minis have now hit 20gb and the next iteration of drives for the full-sized ipods should deliver 40-60gb with the form factor of the current 20gb ipod, so the current "music-only, black and white, full-sized" ipod will be dropped.

i'd guess h.264 compatability on the 5g ipods with either wireless usb or 802.11b capability for transfer. bluetooth is way too slow for transfer (usb and 802.11b are pretty damn slow too) but it could work for ical/addressbook sync or a remote control for your mac.
 
apple should release some nifty bluetooth headphones with this. as for the person who commented on how it would be so thick.. apple is getting better and better at shrinking the size of these things. the 5gb origional was thicker than the current 60gb, so stop bitching.. they will make it just about as thin as the current 30.. my bet is they will add bt to the 30 and 60, lower the price of each by $50 or so.. and drop the 20.. s'all good
 
Brandon Sharitt said:
The thing I don't see as viable is the Bluetooth. You certainly can't sync your library over BT.
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I've got to disagree, for the most part. If you're talking about those rare, large-scale syncs then yes I agree with you. But most of the time when I sync my iPod, only a few megs are being moved anyway.

Or let's say you're ripping a CD - BT could easily be syncing fast enough to keep up with that.
 
PlaceofDis said:
BT? meh, i dont see what advantage this will have really....i would rather see iPods gain some sort of connectivity to the Airport Express base stations
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Someone more technical should fill in here, but it's my understanding that it's much easier getting different devices to talk to each other via BT than wifi. Wifi is more appropriate for higher-bandwidth device-to-PC communications.
 
FattyMembrane said:
i'm pretty sure this is what will happen. the drives used in the ipod minis have now hit 20gb and the next iteration of drives for the full-sized ipods should deliver 40-60gb with the form factor of the current 20gb ipod, so the current "music-only, black and white, full-sized" ipod will be dropped.
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pretty damn optomistic there. if it will be that major, expect it in the fall of this year.. i always thought they would do it right before summer, but i suppose it will be the time in the fall when all the teens are going back to school and need somthing to show off.
FattyMembrane said:
i'd guess h.264 compatability on the 5g ipods with either wireless usb or 802.11b capability for transfer. bluetooth is way too slow for transfer (usb and 802.11b are pretty damn slow too) but it could work for ical/addressbook sync or a remote control for your mac.
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forgive me if im wrong, but usb isn't wireless, because there is no way to transmit energy, and usb can generally do that (that's how the shuffle is charged) if they were to do somthing other than bluetooth, i don't see why they would do 802.11b instead of 802.11g. 802.11g is smaller, faster, and to my knowledge, uses less energy.

bt is just too slow for music transfer, if thats what they are thinking, though i don't see why they would want to use it for that, as you would still have to plug it in to recharge, and would certianly not solve the usb vs. firewire problem because bt is such an uncommon interface so far.. it is almost useless to most computers. the only decent use is for apples wireless mouse and keyboard, and in hope for somthing really good will come out for it.
 
hear me out

the ipod originally dominated the music market because it not only was it awsome but also cuz it had itunes and this kind of syncronization was at the forefront of mp3 (it was what people where waiting for). so no i think apple needs to continue its trend of being on the cutting edge of tech and include BT and color screen. It also needs an iPod that can compete w/the portable ps2. I mean that in the sense of movies. Apple's H.264 technology exists for a reason and I bet you its because they will b opening an iTheatre app that you can buy movies, sync to ur "high end ipod" and or burn to watch on ur tv etc... :cool: This all might just be jibberish tho because I have had a few pilsner urchels down by the near irish pub in town :D
 
dongmin said:
Someone more technical should fill in here, but it's my understanding that it's much easier getting different devices to talk to each other via BT than wifi. Wifi is more appropriate for higher-bandwidth device-to-PC communications.
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oh i agree, but then the Express should have a bluetooth module built in so a BT iPod could communicate to it
 
remember last july? remember when that article on time i think it was came out with steve and the new ipod? same thing is gonna happen this time around.. sometime around mid july or early august.. new ipods.. color screen.. and they will be on the cover of like newsweek or something saying like "revolution redux" or something.. its gonna be great! with tiger!
 
I really hope they dont keep abadoning older iPods when new ones come out. I would like to see a BT attachment which comes with BT headphones from Apple for my new 60 gig
 
All I want is to be able to run my Keynote presentations from it! I know, perhaps 10G that feature will arrive....
...oh yeah and the sig of course!
 
Lacero said:
Time to consolidate the lines. There's just too many damn iPod models, it even confuses the hell out of me!
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I hope you're being sarcastic...

We should be praising Apple for FINALLY having a complete product line, and you want to consolidate them? Apple now has an iPod at every price point and capacity marker, why would they want to change that? Unless you think that making them all "Photo" iPods would be consolidating...
 
dongmin said:
Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR can do 3 Mbps which should be good enough for CD-quality audio.

Potential uses for Bluetooth:

1. No more FM transmitters hooray!!! Moto (and others) will release Bluetooth enabled car stereos. I think some cars already have them (like the Acura TL).

2. Wireless headphones.

3. Remote control your Mac (iTunes, DVD player, QT, etc.) with your iPod a la Salling's Clicker. Your ipod will become the ultimate remote control.

4. OK this is a bit more far-fetched, but if Apple or TiVo ever came out with a bluetooth-enabled media box connected to your TV and stereo, you'd be able to stream digital photos to your TV and music to your home stereo, all directly from your iPod. No need to mess with docking stations or cables.

I was thinking that Apple would introduce an dock-connector add-on to bring BT to the iPod but I guess BT is one way to differentiate the more expensive models.
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Don't forget #5:

Bluetooth iPods connected to Bluetooth-enabled automobiles. My Motorola V600 cellphone, for example, connects automatically to my BMW's iDrive, transfers the address book and wirelessly connects to the speakers and microphone of the car. In fact, I can use voice recognition in my car to make calls by name, such as:

"Call John Doe"

Of course, no voice training is needed; just speak clearly and shut the windows!

The iDrive controller and the iPod controller are EXACTLY the same, i.e. they have the same movements:

1. Rotate the controller.
2. Push the controller up, down, left and right.
3. Press down on the controller.

I would like to see Apple work with BMW to develop a Bluetooth extension to iDrive that replicates the iPod user interface and perhaps adds voice-based command and control as a bonus.

Existing Bluetooth 1.1/1.2 with about 768 kbps bandwidth (if I recall correctly) should be more than capable of handling 128 kbps AAC which would need to be decoded by software resident on iDrive (not sure if there's enuf bandwidth to send decompressed stereo over BT 1.1/1.2).

The 2005 Mercedes SLK Convertible already sports a more advanced iPod interface that displays the song name inside the instrument cluster. BMW, with iDrive, has the infrastructure already in place to replicate the whole shebang.
 
dongmin said:
Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR can do 3 Mbps which should be good enough for CD-quality audio.

Potential uses for Bluetooth:

1. No more FM transmitters hooray!!! Moto (and others) will release Bluetooth enabled car stereos. I think some cars already have them (like the Acura TL).

2. Wireless headphones.

3. Remote control your Mac (iTunes, DVD player, QT, etc.) with your iPod a la Salling's Clicker. Your ipod will become the ultimate remote control.

4. OK this is a bit more far-fetched, but if Apple or TiVo ever came out with a bluetooth-enabled media box connected to your TV and stereo, you'd be able to stream digital photos to your TV and music to your home stereo, all directly from your iPod. No need to mess with docking stations or cables.

I was thinking that Apple would introduce an dock-connector add-on to bring BT to the iPod but I guess BT is one way to differentiate the more expensive models.
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if they can make it do those things, im all for it. that would for sure keep it on the cutting edge of technology and once again push it far ahead of the other digital players on the market...

...not that it isn't ahead already.
 
Spock said:
How much bulk will bluetooth and a color screen add to the current iPod?? The iPod photo is already huge.
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the ipod photo is not really that much bigger. any size difference between the ipod photo and the normal ipod is because of the hd size. i doubt bluetooth will add any bulk at all.
 
Westside guy said:
I've got to disagree, for the most part. If you're talking about those rare, large-scale syncs then yes I agree with you. But most of the time when I sync my iPod, only a few megs are being moved anyway.

Or let's say you're ripping a CD - BT could easily be syncing fast enough to keep up with that.
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Nope. Only if you've got BT 2.0.

Prior to that you're talking about 20K a second transfer speed so each song would take around 3-4 minutes each or roughly realtime. I've done this a few times on phones and it's just not viable. You end up buying card readers for the phone's SD cards or using USB connections.

The other use for it would be Bluetooth printing of your photos and it's about time they added PictBridge support too.
 
Marsh451 said:
No matter how decked out we want our gadgets to be... why fill 'em up with extra features when they are already working great! I'm in no rush to be able to transfer at the blazing speed of bluetooth. Color screens are definitley a plus, they bring new life to an iPod, but I have faith in Apple to keep their products elite in design and functionality and to not pack them full of nerd gear.
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Haha, I would hardly consider bluetooth "nerd gear." None of us know what Apple may do with this, but a bluetooth chip would be very useful. Imagine not needing to mount and unmount your iPod when you want to transfer some contacts or some calendar information onto your iPod? You could also control the iTunes music library on your bluetooth-enabled Apple computer, such as a Powerbook. I currently use a bluetooth phone to control my iTunes, and i've not once been called a nerd for using it, haha. I mostly get "Wow, how'd you do that?" and "Can I do that with my phone?"
 
Brandon Sharitt said:
The thing I don't see as viable is the Bluetooth. You certainly can't sync your library over BT. The only viable thing I see with BT might be syncing calender, address book and Notes.
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let me ask you a quick question, how many times do you think most people will be syncing their whole library to the iPod?? once?

after that it's just adding a few songs here and there as they come, which over bluetooth 2.0, would in most cases be quite adequete. not to mention the calender, address book and notes which you said, and potentially bluetooth headphones. a bluetooth equipped iPod could be quite useful
 
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