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iPod with Color Display and Bluetooth?

d.perel said:
I would guess bluetooth localozed messaging between ipods (maybe even voice messages!) like with newer Game Boy Systems
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You hit upon another possibility: multi-player gaming via BT if the rumors are true about Apple developing games for the iPod.

michaeljs said:
I'd like to see... I get a call on my BT enabled mobile, my BT enabled ipod which I'm listening to, goes into pause mode and routes the call to my iPod headphones (and remote with built in mic). I finish the call and the iPod fades back in!
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Many car BT systems already do this to an extent. Check out the Acura TL. You can already control the stereo with your voice commands. How cool would it be if you can control your ipod with your voice while driving?!

virus1 said:
ya $20 is pretty cheap for a remote like that. too bad it requires $300+ phones that cost $80 a month to use.. so if i wanted to use that for just a month, aha.. $400. i think i will just get up out of my damn chair thank you very much..
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As others have noted, it's an add-on feature. No one would be silly enough to buy a phone just for that. You can get the SE T610 for $100 credit via Amazon. My only gripe is that the screen on the T610 is too small (128x160) to see much. The iPod photo screen (220x176) would work way better.
 
ksz said:
Don't forget #5:

Bluetooth iPods connected to Bluetooth-enabled automobiles. My Motorola V600 cellphone, for example, connects automatically to my BMW's iDrive, transfers the address book and wirelessly connects to the speakers and microphone of the car. In fact, I can use voice recognition in my car to make calls by name, such as:

"Call John Doe"

Of course, no voice training is needed; just speak clearly and shut the windows!

The iDrive controller and the iPod controller are EXACTLY the same, i.e. they have the same movements:

1. Rotate the controller.
2. Push the controller up, down, left and right.
3. Press down on the controller.

I would like to see Apple work with BMW to develop a Bluetooth extension to iDrive that replicates the iPod user interface and perhaps adds voice-based command and control as a bonus.

Existing Bluetooth 1.1/1.2 with about 768 kbps bandwidth (if I recall correctly) should be more than capable of handling 128 kbps AAC which would need to be decoded by software resident on iDrive (not sure if there's enuf bandwidth to send decompressed stereo over BT 1.1/1.2).

The 2005 Mercedes SLK Convertible already sports a more advanced iPod interface that displays the song name inside the instrument cluster. BMW, with iDrive, has the infrastructure already in place to replicate the whole shebang.
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Dude, if the engine in your beamer sounded like desmo on my Duc, you wouldn't want to listen to music anyway!!!! ;)
 
Ultimatetone said:
Personally speaking (of course) I am hoping for something that would lure Archos / Sony PSP fans.

I just want an entertainment/learning device that I can -
  • retrieve and send e-mail, address book, calendar functions
  • listen or view content (on the device or output to larger tv/monitor)
  • browse the web via wi-fi
...for less than an notebook (otherwise, I'd buy a notebook!)

Perhaps an Apple product with the following attributes -
  • 3.8" screen or larger
  • bluetooth for keyboard / mouse
  • A/V in / out (for PVR functionality)
  • H.264 (MPEG-4) record / playback ability
  • scaled-down OS X w/Wi-Fi for web browsing
My 'feature list' may be too 'niche,' but I *cannot* bring myself to purchase -
  • a portable DVD player (that is not MPEG-4 compatible)
  • a 'notebook-priced,' feature-laden, Archos device
  • a PDA from HP, Dell, ASUS or whomever (with no harddrive)
  • a Treo(Palm) or Blackberry cell phone
  • a Sony PSP (overpriced Memory Sticks, no harddrive)
  • an Apple iPod (without video playback)
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Wouldn't it be simpler to use a sub-notebook for all that? Instead of re-inventing the wheel, putting together a special lite version of OS X, etc?

Forget limited PDAs, with the iBook mini you'll have the full power of OS X available to you, 24/7! Wouldn't THAT be amazing?

(eh, that almost sounds like what SJ would say when introducing the thing) :cool:
 
Yvan256 said:
Wouldn't it be simpler to use a sub-notebook for all that?
Instead of re-inventing the wheel, putting together a special lite version of OS X, etc?

Forget limited PDAs, with the iBook mini you'll have the full power of OS X available to you, 24/7! Wouldn't THAT be amazing?
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I agree whole-heartedly!

Target price - > $450-550.00 USD


Ultimatetone
 
Why BT?

Why is everyone's favorite rumored wireless technology for the iPod BT? I understand it's already supported by Mac's and PC's alike... but it's hardly a common standard. Apple has standardized on a USB cable for new iPods. Who's to say they won't come out with an iPod that supports Wireless USB 1.0 (Which is set to be standardized around May 15th, meaning WUSB products could be out by the end of the year.) Not only will this interface require alot less coding to get it to work (it piggybacks current usb specs), but allows wireless transfer's at 480mbps if your within 3 meters of the host, which blows the doors off BT.

If you are going to dream, dream big. BT 2.0 is worthless and hardly useable when you consider the amount of data people have to transfer to fill up a 60gb iPod.


WUSB iPods coming soon? Well I just hope they come before stupid BT ones... lol.
 
Top 10 Reasons Why You're Crazy

AidenShaw said:
Once upon a time, the folks in Cupertino made computers named "Macintosh". Guess that no longer matters....
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Apple posted a net profit of $290 million or $.35 per diluted share - as compared to profit of $46 million or $.06 per dilluted share for the year-ago quarter (up 500%).

I think this speaks for itself. An extra $244 million in your backpocket is nothing to sneeze about.

Besides, AidenShaw, what are you b!tchin' about...?

1) New speedbumps for The G5 PowerMac, iMacs, iBooks & eMacs are on their way and should be shipping before next Friday (according to ThinkSecret).

2) Airport Express hasn't been out that long and is extremely cool.

3) The new Cinema Display lineup is totally boss and just received a price reduction.

4) iWorks just came out and kicks ass.

5) iLife '05 just came out and kicks ass.

6) The Mac Mini just came out and is the low-cost headless Mac everyone's been cryin' over for years.

7) The PowerBook lineup have just received a boost in power and specs, not to mention a nice reduction in price.

8) A new version of Final Cut Studio just came out and won awards at NAB, including new versions of all the software.

9) Not to mention that Tiger is shipping a month early and looks to be just slathered with goodness.

10) They also are continuing to bring out great and different iPods, lowering prices and adding features all the time.

You reaction gives the impression that Apple has been doing nothing except work on the iPod Line and that is entirely not true.

It is a freakin' great time to be a Mac user!
 
JGowan said:
Apple posted a net profit of $290 million or $.35 per diluted share - as compared to profit of $46 million or $.06 per dilluted share for the year-ago quarter (up 500%).

I think this speaks for itself. An extra $244 million in your backpocket is nothing to sneeze about.

Besides, AidenShaw, what are you b!tchin' about...?

1) New speedbumps for The G5 PowerMac, iMacs, iBooks & eMacs are on their way and should be shipping before next Friday (according to ThinkSecret).

2) Airport Express hasn't been out that long and is extremely cool.

3) The new Cinema Display lineup is totally boss and just received a price reduction.

4) iWorks just came out and kicks ass.

5) iLife '05 just came out and kicks ass.

6) The Mac Mini just came out and is the low-cost headless Mac everyone's been cryin' over for years.

7) The PowerBook lineup have just received a boost in power and specs, not to mention a nice reduction in price.

8) A new version of Final Cut Studio just came out and won awards at NAB, including new versions of all the software.

9) Not to mention that Tiger is shipping a month early and looks to be just slathered with goodness.

10) They also are continuing to bring out great and different iPods, lowering prices and adding features all the time.

You reaction gives the impression that Apple has been doing nothing except work on the iPod Line and that is entirely not true.

It is a freakin' great time to be a Mac user!
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1) So far they sound underwhelming and are sure to be overpriced.

2) It's been a while. Too expensive, too many restrictions.

3) Still too expensive and the 23" model has major problems. No low cost 17 or 19" model.

4) iWorks is a joke.

5) iLife finally works well after 3 months of bug fixes, unfortunately the price has balooned from $29 a couple years ago to $79.

6) Nobody was clamoring for a headless mac with a slow 3 years ago 1.25GHz G4 and a 4200 RPM, hard to upgrade, smaller than a good iPod sized hard drive.

7) The powerbook update made them almost undetectably faster and they still cost too much. Battery life on the 15" is still a huge problem as is wi-fi reception even 4.5 years after the Ti came out.

8) & 9) agreed!

10) Kind of a stretch.
 
Yvan256 said:
That'd be nice, too.

But if the new iPod does play H.264, then with Tiger you'll be able to export to H.264 via Keynote. Hopefully the iPod will be able to play QuickTime too (even if only in H.264 format). QuickTime already supports presentation (go ahead, try it now), so that would make it possible to use your 5G iPod for Keynote presentations. Just don't forget your cable to connect it to the video display.
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Hadn't thought of that! I guess some playback issues might remain - I do not like the thought of hitting play and pause too much...it couldn't be too hard to have a button (combination perhaps) to step each frame in QuickTime (and I am talking on the ipod here not the mac)...wow maybe my dreams are closer to reality. Thanks Yvan256 :)
 
rog said:
4) iWorks is a joke.

5) iLife finally works well after 3 months of bug fixes, unfortunately the price has balooned from $29 a couple years ago to $79.

6) Nobody was clamoring for a headless mac with a slow 3 years ago 1.25GHz G4 and a 4200 RPM, hard to upgrade, smaller than a good iPod sized hard drive.
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4. Pages might not be what you'd hope (and it's only the first version), but I'm sure happy with Keynote 2. Anyone still using PowerPoint doesn't put any value on his/her presentations, IMO.

5. The price is still excellent for all the great software included in the package! At 29$ they were almost giving it away for free (like you only paid for the CD, manuals, packaging). Find me a complete package like this for the PC at the same price.

6. I was. My brother was. Lots of switchers were asking for something like this. Why do you think it doesn't even come with a keyboard or mouse? In fact, I'm sure a lot of people were asking for this (or else Apple just wouldn't have bothered). Just wait and see the number of Mac mini sold when the numbers will be announced. You'll probably be shocked.

It might not be a G5, but since I bought mine, I haven't used my PC (Athlon XP 2600+, 512MB, 80GB, Radeon 9600XT/128MB, Windows XP). In fact it's for sale and has been unplugged for more than 3 weeks. That's how great the Mac mini is. Sure it sucks for World of Warcraft, but that's mainly because of the GPU/VRAM (I do wish it had 64MB VRAM).

The Mac mini might be "old technology", but it's still good enough even for video editing (something I can't say when looking at a PC, no matter the specs). A computer is the sum of all its parts and that includes software. At the current price it's impossible to beat the Mac mini hardware/software combo.

And if you still think the Mac mini is "3-years old technology", I don't know what you're thinking about the current PowerBooks... Aside from the GPU/VRAM (and HD speed) my Mac mini is only a notch below the current 12" PowerBook... And probably the (almost) same specs as the previous 12" PowerBook!
 
doogle said:
Hadn't thought of that! I guess some playback issues might remain - I do not like the thought of hitting play and pause too much...it couldn't be too hard to have a button (combination perhaps) to step each frame in QuickTime (and I am talking on the ipod here not the mac)...wow maybe my dreams are closer to reality. Thanks Yvan256 :)
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No play/pause timing required. Go ahead, export in Quicktime, now!

Then, play it back using QuickTime Player. It waits for a key for each slide, plays it, then pauses automatically, just like Keynote!

Put QuickTime + H.264 playback in the 5G iPod and you have your Keynote-on-the-go ability!
 
Yvan256 said:
No play/pause timing required. Go ahead, export in Quicktime, now!

Then, play it back using QuickTime Player. It waits for a key for each slide, plays it, then pauses automatically, just like Keynote!

Put QuickTime + H.264 playback in the 5G iPod and you have your Keynote-on-the-go ability!
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Wicked! Bring it on Apple! :D
 
Did you forget that the iMac is now Apple's Pro line Mac?

AidenShaw said:
Once upon a time, the folks in Cupertino made computers named "Macintosh". Guess that no longer matters....
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Years ago Apple didn't pay enough attention to their top end computers & the Clones had a great market to sell to. Steve Jobs took over & the top end has ended most of the time. Apple comes out with a new model that appears to be the beginning of something new & great, then they let it languish over time. Like the PowerBook has been great from time to time, but it has languished again & again. The G5 showed a lot of promise, but again Apple has let it languish with only yearly updates. A few years ago I sold computers. At that time the Windows models were updated every 3 months or so. The Mac models were on a six month or so renewal schedule. It now takes nearly a year for this to happen. And as many have mentioned these upgrades are not very big, i.e. 10-11 % on the PowerBook & 8% according to the Rumor Sites for the next PowerMac upgrade. STEVE JOBS, could this possibly be the reason that the PowerBook & PowerMac sales are lower than they would like them to be. Unlike years ago we have no Clones available to take up the slack.

I like my iPod & iPod Shuffle, but they only are for non direct business use. My Mac provides 100% of my income. During income tax season my Mac is on for at least 20 hours a day. At the present time it is powering 4 displays: a 17" widescreen, a Formac 20" & a AL 23" Apple, all dvi connected & a 15" lcd hooked up VGA. I wanted to replace one with a new 30" Apple lcd display. For this at present I can use my 17" PowerBook, but need a new G5 at the PowerMac level. Like many others I do not want to pay a premium price for a 2 year old design. Apple please wake up & listen. Steve Jobs just seems to want to reign on the low end, so we need help from the rest of the company. Most of us are loyal Mac Users & are not threatening to buy a Windows machine, maybe we should. But what we are doing is speaking with our pocketbooks. We are not purchasing the Pro-level Mac for the reasons I have listed & other similar reasons. We want to sync are 80GB iPods with new dual 3GHz dual core G5 PowerMacs with pcExpress, pci-X-2 & other fitting items. We're waiting Apple & Steve Jobs in particular.

Bill the TaxMan
 
BT?

I can't imagine what it will be to transfer MP3s with BT. If you're the type of person who is impatient waiting for lift to come, transferring MP3s with BT will drive you nuts.
 
Brandon Sharitt said:
I don't think dropping the "photo" part of the name is that big of a surprise. With the next revisions, I would expect the entire big iPod line to have color screens. The thing I don't see as viable is the Bluetooth. You certainly can't sync your library over BT. The only viable thing I see with BT might be syncing calender, address book and Notes.
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No, you might not be able to sync your entire library over BT before you battery dies but you'll surely be able to sync up one or two new albums you just bought over Bluetooth 2.0
 
The bluetooth iPod obviously supports A2DP for wireless stereo headphones, but also bluetooth headset support (in reverse - as in the ipod can act as a headset for your phone). There are a few of neat ones out already.

This enables your ipod to act as a bluetooth headset for your mobile phone. When an incoming call is detected on your mobile, your iPod mutes and you can answer the call. The voice tag plays so you know who it is, and your iPod display will display the name of the contact along with their Address Book photo if available from a previous iSync. To answer or reject the call you use your voice recognition. All bluetooth mobiles have voice recognition.

The music continues when you end the call.
 
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