iPod iPod with iSight?

bigb0y

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Does anyone know if there have been rumors about a built-in iSight in the new iPod?
 

ITASOR

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rockthecasbah said:
Not that i've heard, but why would anyone even want one on an iPod :confused:
For taking pictures, and also using as an external iSight when hooked up. Seems kinda dumb to combine the iSight and iPod though.
 

iMeowbot

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bigb0y said:
Does anyone know if there have been rumors about a built-in iSight in the new iPod?
Some people have drawn fantasy mock-ups of iPods and iPhones with cameras. I haven't seen any serious suggestions that Apple really have such a thing planned.
 

mkrishnan

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I think some of the wilder rumors involved using 3G data services to create a device that would offer handheld videoconferencing. I'm actually ever-so-slightly surprised that this isn't already a feature on the major US networks with an existing cellphone at least. Or have one of them debuted it and I missed it?

Certainly if the phones could interact with AIM or MSN users that would be even more amazing....
 

pianoman

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Le Big Mac said:
And they've dropped firewire from the iPod . . .
yeah. what a bummer.

the iPod is not a camera. it has only recently been used to display pictures and view videos. it's main purpose is to play music. let's not get carried away. plus, for every feautre you add, make sure you take into account battery life and size. iSight + iPod = iStupid.
 

asxtb

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mkrishnan said:
I think some of the wilder rumors involved using 3G data services to create a device that would offer handheld videoconferencing. I'm actually ever-so-slightly surprised that this isn't already a feature on the major US networks with an existing cellphone at least. Or have one of them debuted it and I missed it?

Certainly if the phones could interact with AIM or MSN users that would be even more amazing....
Just wait... It will come soon. Most phones here have video conferencing. It's only a matter of time before the US gets it.
 

pianoman

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Thanatoast said:
um, didn't a patent surface not 3 days ago describing a device that does exactly this? plus more?
it is my contention that the iPod should remain a music player first, and a picture viewer/video viewer second. adding a camera would decrease battery life and drive up cost.

do you think that everything there is a patent for gets made?

do you believe everything you hear on MacRumors?
 

Stacc9

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Le Big Mac said:
And they've dropped firewire from the iPod . . .
The new isights that are built into macs are usb devices rather than firewire. So this is hardly a limitation. I doubt this feature will make it into an ipod anytime soon. Apple would much rather have you spend $150 to buy an isight or buy a new computer.
 

HecubusPro

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I actually think it would be a good idea to have a digital camera incorporated as part of the iPod video/photo. A 2mp camera would be acceptable I think, and then you could take pictures, view them on your iPod, and/or transfer them to your computer. I would love to have that included.
 

iMeowbot

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Thanatoast said:
um, didn't a patent surface not 3 days ago describing a device that does exactly this? plus more?
The thing with Apple patent applications is that they love to obfuscate them. The examples may have nothing to do with the actual product in mind (for one example, the iPod scroll wheel was described as a mouse).
 

Thanatoast

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pianoman said:
it is my contention that the iPod should remain a music player first, and a picture viewer/video viewer second. adding a camera would decrease battery life and drive up cost.

do you think that everything there is a patent for gets made?

do you believe everything you hear on MacRumors?
How exactly would adding a camera decrease battery life? When it's on, sure, obviously. Otherwise it'd just be an inert lens and ccd.

Of course not. I'm saying that it's possible, some people want it, and Apple has already gone so far as to patent it - therefore it may not be "iStupid". Jackass.

See above.
 

pianoman

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Thanatoast said:
Of course not. I'm saying that it's possible, some people want it, and Apple has already gone so far as to patent it - therefore it may not be "iStupid". Jackass.
Apple has patented hundreds of things. Just because you hear about a few of them on MacRumors doesn't mean they'll become an actual product.

Just as you were giving your opinion on why you thought a camera would be a good idea, I was giving mine on why I don't think Apple will include one in their next iPod line. I could be wrong and they could offer one. You could be wrong and they could decide against the camera.

The final word is unnecessary and contrary to the whole spirit of these forums. Way to ruin a perfectly decent discussion. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up in the wasteland.
 

Thanatoast

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If you wanted to keep this discussion mature and above the board then I think you should've stopped before ragging on the OP with the "iStupid" comment.

Your continued demeaning comments, "do you think everything there is a patent for gets made" and "do you believe eveything you hear on macrumors?" was only missing a :rolleyes: to become a direct insult instead of a backhanded snide comment.

Don't get all high and mighty when you both started the immature behavior and then continued it.
 

pianoman

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can the mods please remove this thread? i think it has reached a point where it is no longer suitable for display on the site. thanks.
 

maxterpiece

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don't kill this thread! I think it's interesting and plausible idea. Almost any cell phone these days comes with a camera which can take photos and usually crappy quality video as well. These phones have bright color displays, are smaller than todays iPod videos, and still get impressive battery life.

Yes, there are differences - these phones don't have hard disks for one, but I don't see that as a dealbreaker at all. This next gen iPod/iPhone that's gonna be coming out soon if not Tuesday is more likely than not going to have a camera, a hard drive and a big color screen.

With all of these features in place, it would not be difficult to add a video conferencing feature. Another interesting concept would be if apple went away from the cellular companies and went with a WiFi enabled skype iPhone (skype wifi phones are already on the market).

This phone would then be airport extreme enabled, allowing it to stream movies and music to base stations, taking away the need for a firewire or USB connection because files could be transmitted wirelessly to the iPhone, allowing the iPod to perhaps have limited browsing abilities, instant messaging, video conferencing, cars could be equipped with wifi so that they could also receive both music and video from the iPhone --- and all for free - no airtime costs like a cellular provider....

There are a lot of options here and most of the technology is already in place. It just hasn't been implemented in a way that appeals to the mass market. It could be "the next iPod" - the personal electronic device that everyone has been waiting for apple, or someone else to release that creates a massive new market.
 

kretzy

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The idea certainly has some potential but wouldn't the space an iSight takes up be slightly prohibitive. iPods are so small and compact I can't see the iSight fitting anywhere without making the device larger.
 

rockthecasbah

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The thing is though that an iPod (at least full sized one) is generally not kept in a very moveable position that would be good for just snapping pictures. Phones, which are much smaller and manueverable, are more fitted for this kinda stuff than an iPod. Plus, a lot of people already have camera phones, so putting another small and crappy camera in a tech product won't entice people that much, it will just make it more difficult to design for and add unnecessary cost.
 

weg

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rockthecasbah said:
Not that i've heard, but why would anyone even want one on an iPod :confused:
Why would anyone want a camera on a cell pone?
 

mkrishnan

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asxtb said:
Just wait... It will come soon. Most phones here have video conferencing. It's only a matter of time before the US gets it.
I guess... Probably be ungodly expensive though. :eek: ;) :D

Do you ever use it on your phone, out of curiosity?
 

paradillon

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apple device

isight on an ipod not quite, but the iphone is what I have believed to be the upcoming

wi-fi-touch-screen-video-ipod-mobile-me-portable-ichat-extension of your iLife in your pocket type of device.

I really don't see apple producing something as mundane as a cell phone.

I know most of you don't either, but I think this device will be more than what most are thinking.

Think Different :)