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iProd 0,1 refers to the iPhone Pro Dock that connects to a mini displayport monitor

iParis said:
So... they got 20 year old technology and made it as small as possible?
Big woops. Who cares if it can run Linux. In fact, it probably run Damn Small Linux and that's a very hard to use terminal based OS.
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Just showing that it is possible. That was 4 years ago. The size is there. I could show many other examples, some even running XP but that's not the point. The point is that the technology is here so it's not a long shot.

:)

:apple:

Edit: Here is an example. Fits in the palm of your hand with 1.5 GHz. Put that without a screen and it can fit on your desk, implement it to pull from your iPhone and there ya go. Hook up a monitor and a keyboard as well as a 1TB HD and you got yourself a system.
 
iPhone Savvy said:
Just showing that it is possible. That was 4 years ago. The size is there. I could show many other examples, some even running XP but that's not the point. The point is that the technology is here so it's not a long shot.

:)

:apple:

Edit: Here is an example. Fits in the palm of your hand with 1.5 GHz. Put that without a screen and it can fit on your desk, implement it to pull from your iPhone and there ya go. Hook up a monitor and a keyboard as well as a 1TB HD and you got yourself a system.
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I know you were just showing that, but stuff like 8MB ram and 2MB SSD has been our for like 15 or 20 years, so it's obvious they would be able to make it that small.

I highly doubt they are going to offer like an iPhone Pro.
I just don't see it going from a tiny Intel Processor to like an iPhone with a quad core, a gig of ram, and a mini display port.
 
iParis said:
I know you were just showing that, but stuff like 8MB ram and 2MB SSD has been our for like 15 or 20 years, so it's obvious they would be able to make it that small.

I highly doubt they are going to offer like an iPhone Pro.
I just don't see it going from a tiny Intel Processor to like an iPhone with a quad core, a gig of ram, and a mini display port.
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You don't have to. The iphone OS 3.0 when combined with the app store unleashes an entire ecosystem of software that can duplicate the functionality of MS office suite, mail and calendar functionality, ichat, and anything else can be picked up by a web browser.

You do not really need something much more powerful than the current iPhone as long as it is powerful enough to draw a screen at 1920 by 1080. Those chips are available now- this year. And I am not talking about Intel's atom- I am talking about the other Arm processors and such.

Microsoft's business model was on the decline the day a small business owner walked in to CompUSA and said- "Just give me the cheapest eMachine- it can run office" because that guy no longer had to upgrade for office's upgrades and functionality. That means that any software revenue stream tied to the operating system that required pc manufacturers to bundle it for the majority of sales was now at risk of competition, as the juggernaut that was the small business pc industry was no longer driven by new windows / new pc sales- "It's good enough" now sufficed for mainstream business.

So now the door is open- funtionality that we thought we only got by being tied to the largest ecosystem is now being duplicated on the smallest of devices.

Think OSX light and you see where the iphone OS is going.

Go look at some of the document creation apps. It's clear where this is going even without... taking a critical look at the idea of an iPhone dock that connects to a monitor.
 
And I bet the new device will end up having as much power as the Duo dock computers from 15+ years ago.

Anyone remember those?
:)
 
Those were awesome. By today' standards , they were clunky- but man back then they were cool.
 
I have a weird feeling that this is gonna come true in a couple months.... just a feeling.

A lot of it makes sense, maybe there won't be two types of iPhones, but just one with a iProd (iphone Pro dock).

Think about it, it would explain why the iPhone SKU is 3,1 and the iProd is 0,1. The new iPhone will be the only iPhone compatible with the dock and maybe they'll keep selling the 3G as a lower end model. Imagine the 3G model as a "low-end model"... it would sell like hot cakes.

Just my $.02... thoughts?
 
Personally, I don't think so. Apple has had enough time to line up the technology partners and get the deals that they want if you are looking at it from an outside perspective. From another perspective, well, that's a different story....
 
KevinSkocik said:
Windows Mobile devices can pretty much do this with the Celio Refly. I can definitely see this happening with the iPhone.
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Yep. :)

It would actually not take too much to push out 1920 by 1200 pixels for that cinema display...

As for why this thread has not gotten much attention? don't know...

All I know is you heard it here first! :)
 
iansilv said:
Yep. :)

It would actually not take too much to push out 1920 by 1200 pixels for that cinema display...

As for why this thread has not gotten much attention? don't know...

All I know is you heard it here first! :)
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Unfortunately, due to the fact that you can't show pictures or give away sources, for obvious reasons, not many people will care. On the other hand, I think people aren't even noticing the next iPhone and its features right in front of their eyes.
 
business sense...

It's not impossible to do it, if you think about it: A salesman goes out gets information, goes to the office opens the iPhone on a big screen... Need to work on docs for work overnight for that deadline, not a problem, use your iPhone. It's more of a business solution.. would be awesome. & it could work now or on the next gen iPhone. The iPhone is a very mobile laptop when you think about it, so the product is already there. It just needs adapting.

Then you'll be laughing on the other side of your face with embarrassment.

This is Apple, they never cease to amaze me.
 
Luke1robb said:
So is Apple going to release another display or expect someone to buy a $900 screen for their $200 phone?
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Well, if they jsut supported a max 1920 by 1200 resolution, then they could adapt to other displays less than that, as the minidisplay port is compatible with hdmi, dvi, etc.

Just imagine that desktop with iphone apps on it...
 
1Zach1 said:
So when is this going to come out? (This year, next year, 15 years?)
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I would be confident in saying within the next 2 years. Apple know the mobile market is one of the largest markets and with such a great team worldwide I don't think they would let Nokia and the alike to step up before them, I mean, the iPhone is far from the 1st phone with a touch interface; but it is by far the best out there. I have used a fair few, especially recently and not found one with a smooth & easy interface & seamless interaction with my iMac, email, notes, music, docs and so on... even my 2 year old niece can work the iPhone better than other phone myself & her father have had in the past. Allowing for her to play games & even learn of the phone. I seen this coming a year ago with the release of the 3G version. It wise to move in this direction.
 
Anyone think that iProd - could be anything, right? or are we talking capactive screens that can understand pressure (there's a darn cool video out there of a screen that can do this well, but I don't have the link to hand)

But iFPGA? Field Programmable Gate Array.

Now that is interesting.


Stuff like
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/xilinx-altera-showing-off-fpga-coprocessors-at-idf/

Xilinx, Altera showing off FPGA coprocessors at IDF

We've already seen the unique, albeit highly specific chips in a supercomputer, but the dedicated coprocessor / accelerator modules could be landing beside your Intel Xeon CPU. Essentially, the devices plug "directly into the processor socket of dual- or quad-socket servers" in order to provide "high performance application acceleration ranging from 10x to 100x compared to processors alone, while simultaneously reducing overall system power consumption." The modules act as targeted CPUs, effectively computing very specific tasks in a much more efficient fashion than a general microprocessor can alone, which could boost the speed of scientific, financial, and life science applications that rely on very particular calculations. Of course, mainstream adoption still has quite a ways to go, but the quicker we get dedicated physics and AI coprocessors to go along with these snazzy new GPUs, the happier (and poorer) we'll be.
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That's 2007. If you could get a low power version - do an Elgato Turbo style USB version, or add to a motherboard, make their own...

Or PA Semi's work on FPGA, ("Kent Dahlgren, CEO of bridging IP specialist Praesum Communications, said his company had worked with PA Semi to develop FPGA-based bridging solutions between RapidIO and other interfaces.")

Or
http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?NewsID=368

A little over a year ago [2006], the folks at PA Semi presented their plans at the Fall Processor Forum to build a 25W embedded high performance platform for networking and storage applications. Simultaneously, they demonstrated a multi board FPGA emulator booting Linux at around 2MHz. According to PA Semi’s predictions, a working device would typically consume 13W through a variety of power optimization tricks.

Fast forward a bit and PA Semi has just announced that their embedded system on a chip, the PA6T-1682M is sampling to early customers.
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iPhone Pro Dock => iPro dock => iProd ?

By calling the next iPhone Pro, they have a great strategy - they can then keep the iPhone 8GB and 16GB, andhave that as the low end version, in keeping with the MacBook, MacBook Pro.

But... Why not just get a Mac mini? Seeing as it'll be BYOKMM ?

Why not have the iProd attach to your computer, then wirelessly do stuff? They're opening up BT and the dock connector (and hopefully looking at USB 3, if FW is dying a lonely death at FW800).

Bump the iPhone to 801.11n, then Bonjour it to a computer, and do some gaming through the big screen. iPhone's the remote/controller, the computer does the game perhaps.


Any which way, the two unknown iProd and iFPGA are both interesting, and what the iPhone could pack into it, is also v. interesting - the ability to get video out at HD res (720 or 1080) is pretty close to users. So why not let users be able to buy / rent movies through iPhone also. Or get the mobitv/ tv through a separate device out, and not just keep it to Japan? An elgato for the iPhone or more.

Any which way, Apple's looking at a hell of a lot more accessories. And profit from the margin.

Least we can guess by the 0,1 bit that we haven't seen them yet, and they aren't as likely to be iPhone, or iPod variants.
 
t0mat0 said:
Anyone think that iProd - could be anything, right? or are we talking capactive screens that can understand pressure (there's a darn cool video out there of a screen that can do this well, but I don't have the link to hand)

But iFPGA? Field Programmable Gate Array.

Now that is interesting.


Stuff like
http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/23/xilinx-altera-showing-off-fpga-coprocessors-at-idf/



That's 2007. If you could get a low power version - do an Elgato Turbo style USB version, or add to a motherboard, make their own...

Or PA Semi's work on FPGA, ("Kent Dahlgren, CEO of bridging IP specialist Praesum Communications, said his company had worked with PA Semi to develop FPGA-based bridging solutions between RapidIO and other interfaces.")

Or
http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?NewsID=368




iPhone Pro Dock => iPro dock => iProd ?

By calling the next iPhone Pro, they have a great strategy - they can then keep the iPhone 8GB and 16GB, andhave that as the low end version, in keeping with the MacBook, MacBook Pro.

But... Why not just get a Mac mini? Seeing as it'll be BYOKMM ?

Why not have the iProd attach to your computer, then wirelessly do stuff? They're opening up BT and the dock connector (and hopefully looking at USB 3, if FW is dying a lonely death at FW800).

Bump the iPhone to 801.11n, then Bonjour it to a computer, and do some gaming through the big screen. iPhone's the remote/controller, the computer does the game perhaps.


Any which way, the two unknown iProd and iFPGA are both interesting, and what the iPhone could pack into it, is also v. interesting - the ability to get video out at HD res (720 or 1080) is pretty close to users. So why not let users be able to buy / rent movies through iPhone also. Or get the mobitv/ tv through a separate device out, and not just keep it to Japan? An elgato for the iPhone or more.

Any which way, Apple's looking at a hell of a lot more accessories. And profit from the margin.

Least we can guess by the 0,1 bit that we haven't seen them yet, and they aren't as likely to be iPhone, or iPod variants.
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Very interesting stuff.
 
JoshJosh117 said:
What would I want more... this, or the rumored 10" tablet....
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OK- here's a thought- with the iphone pro dock connecting to a monitor, why could you not have a slide in case that made the iphone pro a 10" tablet too? as in, the tablet is just an accessory...
 
Apple is seemingly ---> <--- this close to going big on gaming, across the range. The concept of having a "thing" that connects to your hdtv, to then allow 2 iphone Pro users to play HD games on a TV would be rather spiffy.

Is the OnLive etc thing a fad, or before it's time? Maybe - but Bonjour/wireless gaming hasn't yet really gone mainstream - yet. Neither have we seen what accessories will come from opening up the dock connector and BT. Wireless gaming could see an epic increase, if the SDK helps enough - the iPhone density is getting better.
 
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