Iranian Telecoms Ordered to Shut Down Access to Messaging App Telegram

[C DM]

Your comment is wrong, plain and simple.

Telegram has a much larger user base than Signal and is therefore a much bigger threat to those governments and a number of countries have indeed blocked Signal, however it's still accessible in most of them due to Signal's censorship circumvention methods. Also I would argue that Snowden does indeed know a few things about how Signal and Telegram work considering, you know, him being Snowden.

Has Snowden provided some particular reasoning why Signal is better (and perhaps some others like Telegram might not be)?

 

[hank moody]

Your comment is wrong, plain and simple.

Telegram has a much larger user base than Signal and is therefore a much bigger threat to those governments and a number of countries have indeed blocked Signal, however it's still accessible in most of them due to Signal's censorship circumvention methods. Also I would argue that Snowden does indeed know a few things about how Signal and Telegram work considering, you know, him being Snowden.

Telegram is blocked, not because is wide used, but it dont give govs access to it.

Snowden only leaked some papers. He doesnt know anyhing about what is good or not.

 

[C DM]

Telegram is blocked, not because is wide used, but it dont give govs access to it.

Snowden only leaked some papers. He doesnt know anyhing about what is good or not.

That in itself doesn't say anything about Telegram being better than Signal or anything else. Furthermore, its usage more than likely plays into the decision, after all, if no one was really using it, then a government wouldn't really be looking to get access to it, and wouldn't then care about banning it.

 

[497902]

Telegram is blocked, not because is wide used, but it dont give govs access to it.

It's blocked in some countries because they don't give them access to it AND because it is widely used.

It seems like you're implying that Signal does share your chats with government agencies when in fact they can't even see them if they wanted to. The only thing they save is your phone number, sign up date and the last time you've connected to the service which was proven by an incident in the past when the FBI required them to hand in all the data they had about a specific user and got this useless information as they already had his phone number to begin with.

On the other hand, while Telegram refuses to give in to government demands, we don't actually know what they save. If anything, governments can hack into Telegram's non secret chats and get the data that way without Telegram ever being involved.

Also, I'd argue that giving users the impression of false security might be exactly what certain people want. Are you one of them?

Snowden only leaked some papers. He doesnt know anyhing about what is good or not.

That doesn't even make any sense.
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Has Snowden provided some particular reasoning why Signal is better (and perhaps some others like Telegram might not be)?

twitter.com/Snowden/status/947190333540061185
youtube.com/watch?v=lkrXcE8poR8

 

[Mr. Heckles]

Not looking good for Signal now also.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/02/signal-could-get-kicked-out-of-amazon-web-services/

 

[497902]

Not looking good for Signal now also.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/05/02/signal-could-get-kicked-out-of-amazon-web-services/

Yeah, it looks like they have to find another way for their censorship circumvention to work. :/