iRiver, the iPod killer is..... RELEASED!

[dethl]

iRiver too late here

I just purchased my 30 gig iPod a few days ago, though I am having to wait a couple more weeks before its even shipped.

 

[Giaguara]

it's ugly.

my 20 G ipod lasts 10 hours.

 

[bennetsaysargh]

i think i'll be throwing iRiver into the nearest river if i have to use it. it looks ugly, and also not as much storage as the iPod. probably will take forever to load music on there. no iTunes AAC support. my 15GB iPod is better. it wouldn't be smal enough to snea during study hall, and probably won't fit in my pocket.

cool remote though😀

 

[crapple33]

It's awful. And who the hell are iRiver!?

About as trustworthy name as Archos and the like!!

umm, i'd have to agree with you about archos. i got a mp3 player from them and it broke three times after being sent in for replacements. i finally gave up.

but iriver is a high quality company. their cd/mp3 players are generally considered best on the market. and the other main cd/mp3 player company, rio, blatantly copies all of the iriver designs.

but the ipod is still better.

 

[e-coli]

Originally posted by mac15
including the opticla out but thats on the dock with the ipod.

The new dock Line Out isn't optical, is it? I thought it was just a regular analog line out.

 

[Ryan1524]

Originally posted by crapple33
umm, i'd have to agree with you about archos. i got a mp3 player from them and it broke three times after being sent in for replacements. i finally gave up.

but iriver is a high quality company. their cd/mp3 players are generally considered best on the market. and the other main cd/mp3 player company, rio, blatantly copies all of the iriver designs.

but the ipod is still better.

actually, as i mentioned earlier, iRiver used to be the OEM supplier of Rio. 😛 😀
maybe that's why their design looks very similar..🙄

 

[icetraxxg5]

I just want to add that I think that the iRiver really is industrial looking and pretty sexy to me 😀

But the iPod is also very sexy.

 

[Freg3000]

I don't like it. I'd get an iPod 100 times before I'd get that thing.

 

[AppleMatt]

Hopefully this will 'inspire' Apple to come up with lots of juicy new things for the iPod...

- Better remote
- Radio tuner (if everyone REALLY wants one)

I doubt they will ever include optical in/out though 🙁, possibly on a new dock.

AppleMatt:

 

[MacFan25]

It not very pretty. I like my iPod just fine. So far, I haven't needed more than the 8 hours worth of battery on my iPod.

 

[melchior]

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
i think i'll be throwing iRiver into the nearest river if i have to use it. it looks ugly, and also not as much storage as the iPod. probably will take forever to load music on there. no iTunes AAC support. my 15GB iPod is better. it wouldn't be smal enough to snea during study hall, and probably won't fit in my pocket.

cool remote though😀

ummm, it's almost exactly the same dimensions as the new iPod's. (almost)

and it has a FULLY FUNCTIONAL REMOTE with and LCD... you can stick it whereever you like.

does that sound rude? 😀

what happens when you have more music than 15gb on your current ipod? will you buy a 30gb iPod? 😱 or manually organise your playlist?

for most mac users, usb 1.1 is their only option and that would be slow. for most windows users, usb 2.0 is fast and quite satisfactory. so what if you can't bus power it.

 

[nef919]

Originally posted by melchior

for most mac users, usb 1.1 is their only option and that would be slow. for most windows users, usb 2.0 is fast and quite satisfactory. so what if you can't bus power it.

Um, why excactly are mac users limited to usb? What about firewire, as all current macs posses this.

 

[dethl]

Originally posted by melchior
ummm, it's almost exactly the same dimensions as the new iPod's. (almost)

and it has a FULLY FUNCTIONAL REMOTE with and LCD... you can stick it whereever you like.

does that sound rude? 😀

what happens when you have more music than 15gb on your current ipod? will you buy a 30gb iPod? 😱 or manually organise your playlist?

for most mac users, usb 1.1 is their only option and that would be slow. for most windows users, usb 2.0 is fast and quite satisfactory. so what if you can't bus power it.

What happens when you fill the iRiver up? Seeing how they only have a 10gig model...if you can replace the internal hard drive...then I could see.

USB 2.0 might be fine and dandy for windoze users, but I like my firewire alot better, and bus powering is an awesome feature. I can charge and sync in the same cable....this makes portabliity much more so. All USB2 products need an external adapter...thats not cool. I'm sure firewire was created with portability in mind. Also, I hear firewire is much faster than USB2, even though its an older standard (and firewire 2/800 blows usb2 away).

 

[Abstract]

Depending on cost, if I could save $120 bucks (and I'm sure I could since Apple's prices are ridiculously high), then I would get this baby. If the price difference only ends up being $50-60, then its the iPod for me. 🙂

Or better yet, I would get the 256MB or 512MB mp3 player that lasts 24 hours on a single AA battery. 😎

 

[melchior]

Originally posted by nef919
Um, why excactly are mac users limited to usb? What about firewire, as all current macs posses this.

when a device has no firewire and only usb, even if it's usb 2.0, unless you have a powermac with usb 2.0 then it's usb 1.1 for you.

sure the ipod has both. but most devices don't. although, more portable harddrives these days have both. which is definetely nice.

 

[melchior]

Originally posted by dethl
What happens when you fill the iRiver up? Seeing how they only have a 10gig model...if you can replace the internal hard drive...then I could see.

USB 2.0 might be fine and dandy for windoze users, but I like my firewire alot better, and bus powering is an awesome feature. I can charge and sync in the same cable....this makes portabliity much more so. All USB2 products need an external adapter...thats not cool. I'm sure firewire was created with portability in mind. Also, I hear firewire is much faster than USB2, even though its an older standard (and firewire 2/800 blows usb2 away).

what happens when you fill the iPod. can you replace the internal hard drive? no. if you 27gig of music, maybe you will be happy with a 30gig ipod. when you have 30.1gig of music then it doesn't matter if it's 10gig or 30gig.

and as for bus powering, it doesn't even charge properly, it will just charge into infinite and never say it's finished.

bus power is useful for a hard drive. i don't think it's useful for a music player. not when we are talking about 'portability' on the other hand firewire is better. no doubt in my mind. and it IS a convenience to sync and charge your ipod at the same time, i suppose. personally i rarely sync my ipod anyway... once a week, maybe?

i think, when it comes to music players, bus power doesn't matter. but i have a feeling we are just going to disagree on this. 😎

no device is perfect. the ipod isn't perfect. and neither is this iriver player. you just have to weigh in on both and choose the one the suits you best. both have very appealing atributes and not so appealing atributes. this particular forum is a tincy wincy bit bias and has trouble to see past the beauty that beholds in their scratched-to-hell iPod 😀

i think a lot of people will buy this once it is released in the US and europe. maybe not mac users. but a lot of people.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Re: Amusing track selection for an mp3 device!

Originally posted by barkmonster
With all the noise they made about napster, I find it pretty funny that a metallica track is being played in a promo shot for an mp3 player!!!

I noticed that too. Of course I have no idea what "Metallica & SM" is. Metallica does have an album called S&M though... 😉


Lethal

 

[Wardofsky]

So many iPod wannabies are coming out but none can capture the style without downright copying the design.

Go Apple Music...

 

[MyLeftNut]

Im sorry the design sucks...

How is having all those bits jutting out going to help you put the thing in and out of your pocket?

Theres too much contrast in detail detracting you from the screen, argghh annoying visually....

Apple has already thought of this and more....nuff said

 

[Abstract]

Originally posted by melchior
what happens when you fill the iPod. can you replace the internal hard drive? no. if you 27gig of music, maybe you will be happy with a 30gig ipod. when you have 30.1gig of music then it doesn't matter if it's 10gig or 30gig.

i don't think it's useful for a music player. not when we are talking about 'portability' on the other hand firewire is better............i think, when it comes to music players, bus power doesn't matter. but i have a feeling we are just going to disagree on this. 😎

Agree with your first comment. Its an option for people who don't care if they carry ALL their music with them or not. Personally I don't want to hold 30GB of music in my pocket. I think 5GB is nice enough, and 10GB would be great. This is a nice non-iPod option for those who only care to hold 10GB of music or less in their player. 🙂

I also agree with your 2nd point. Personally, I hate it when a player comes with a built-in battery. I enjoy having players that can use AA or AAA batteries. I wouldn't mind it if the player has a built-in charger for AA NiMH batteries like many Sony portable CD Players, which allows for easy charging of the batteries, but none of those propriety ones, please. If there are going to be instances where you're simply not near a wallplug or FW, then how would you charge your iPod. AA and AAA batteries are everywhere and are universal, and can be bought everywhere you travel. Or how about if you're in another country for 3 or 4 months, you're moving around a lot (maybe 2 or 3 times within that period), and your iPod battery dies. I've done that over the past 2 years (I'm a student who enjoys bumming around and scrounging up low-paying jobs 😉). Can you go to any store to pick up a new battery?

Its preference. I don't care if it charges through a FW port, through a wallplug, or one that uses a plain ol' AA battery. There is always somebody who's not going to be happy with what's available. 😉

 

[yzedf]

Apple is selling refurb 10GB iPod (old style without 4 backlit buttons) for $199.00 plus tax and shipping.

I hope to get mine tomorrow 😀

 

[bennetsaysargh]

about the not being near electricity or FW, there are the Belkin iPod batteries. they take 4 AA batteries, and they plug into the bottom of the new iPods. p[retty cool, although i don't need one🙁

 

[Foxer]

I want to say it sucks, but it actually looks OK. Key would be the ease-of-use, since iPod nailed that requirement as well. I really like the remote, even though I never quite understood the point of remotes for something that you've probably got in your pocket. A wireless remote would be nicer, since I've been known to hook up my iPod to my creature speakers when I work in my garage - that would give me the abilty to control from a distance.

 

[Ryan1524]

Originally posted by Foxer
I want to say it sucks, but it actually looks OK. Key would be the ease-of-use, since iPod nailed that requirement as well. I really like the remote, even though I never quite understood the point of remotes for something that you've probably got in your pocket. A wireless remote would be nicer, since I've been known to hook up my iPod to my creature speakers when I work in my garage - that would give me the abilty to control from a distance.

there's been some MP3 players that can be linked to a BT phone to let the user control the player from it. pretty neat. 😀

 

[elpinchegringo]

Originally posted by andrewlandry

i'm really surprised that Sony hasn't come up with some real competition for the iPod. i bet they could actually make something cool. who would have thought that the walkman for the 21st century would be made by Apple.

Yeah, but sony is notoriously bad for mac support. Case in point: Clié. Sony can't make a mac friendly device any better then their tech support can find their ******* with two hands and a flashlight.