but they still dominate the low end amrket with CD-players. people who don't have 800$ to burn or don't know any better will still think cd players are the best for portable music. 
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iRiver, the iPod killer is..... RELEASED!
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phillips have this damn sexy looking jukebox due out within the next month or so. The philips HDD100 i think they call it.
Its 15 gig, but its really cool. check it out and don't diss it because it doesn't have a picture of a half eaten apple on the side
Its 15 gig, but its really cool. check it out and don't diss it because it doesn't have a picture of a half eaten apple on the side
on an unrelated note...
Why the heck to these companies give you the stupid earbud earphones with their players? Am I the only one in the world whose ears won't hold the stupid things in? In my opinion, headphones packaged with a product (be it cd player, mp3 player, clie, or minidisk) should be compatible with anyone who may use the product purchased. I have a drawer full of the stupid things because every portable device that I've ever bought came with them. ARGH!
Why the heck to these companies give you the stupid earbud earphones with their players? Am I the only one in the world whose ears won't hold the stupid things in? In my opinion, headphones packaged with a product (be it cd player, mp3 player, clie, or minidisk) should be compatible with anyone who may use the product purchased. I have a drawer full of the stupid things because every portable device that I've ever bought came with them. ARGH!
I know battery life is a big issue so I wonder if the battery life is really as long as they claim. It's been my experience with my 10 gig iPod that I was able to use it for around 10 hours without needing a charge despite the fact that Apple only claims an 8 hour battery. I wonder if that is the battery life with normal usage or if it's a theoretical one. Has anyone had firsthand experience with this player's battery life?
Matt
Matt
i think that #1 they put them here to save money/space
and #2 to make it look better (sleeker)
that's just my opinion
and #2 to make it look better (sleeker)
that's just my opinion
Let me get this straight. The iRiver...
Costs as much as the iPod (299 for 10 Gigs).
Has a lame form/design.
Has an inferior UI
Doesn't have full iTunes integration.
Doesn't support as many formats.
How is this an iPod killer?? Sure it has a few extra features (recording and FM capabilities), but these could very well be introduced in later versions of the iPod. There is already capability for recording about 5 seconds of audio on the iPod and the new port allows for more add-ons and goodies (ie, its not just limited to Firewire and USB ports.)
So at best, I'd say this thing is on par with the iPod. I'm willing to admit when a company has Apple beat (especially in price), but this isn't one of those times. If you are looking for a cheap hard-drive mp3 player that isn't an iPod, I'd look to another company; The iRiver doesn't deliver.
Taft
Costs as much as the iPod (299 for 10 Gigs).
Has a lame form/design.
Has an inferior UI
Doesn't have full iTunes integration.
Doesn't support as many formats.
How is this an iPod killer?? Sure it has a few extra features (recording and FM capabilities), but these could very well be introduced in later versions of the iPod. There is already capability for recording about 5 seconds of audio on the iPod and the new port allows for more add-ons and goodies (ie, its not just limited to Firewire and USB ports.)
So at best, I'd say this thing is on par with the iPod. I'm willing to admit when a company has Apple beat (especially in price), but this isn't one of those times. If you are looking for a cheap hard-drive mp3 player that isn't an iPod, I'd look to another company; The iRiver doesn't deliver.
Taft
Originally posted by melchior
i mean frankly. and i'll make it very clear. i don't, personally give a toss about recording, optical i/o, fm tuner or storage capacity. i care about size. weight. playback time.
so what do i want? i want a fuel cell powered nanotube ram device the size of my thumb that plays all formats including ogg. is that so much to ask?
You mean like this?:http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/idp-100.asp
The iRiver iHP-120 is a 20 GB MP3 player for $399, similar to the 20 GB iPod.
http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iHP-120.asp
Anyway, it's a decent alternative. Oh, and iRiver makes ultra-slim MP3-CD players, and their flash-based players aren't bad either.
People, keep an open mind.
http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iHP-120.asp
Anyway, it's a decent alternative. Oh, and iRiver makes ultra-slim MP3-CD players, and their flash-based players aren't bad either.
People, keep an open mind.
It does not have the brand recognition like the iPod does, so that rules it out from beaing an iPod killer, it would need a huge advertsiing campaign, and even then the iPod has so much going for it now, it won't stand a chance.
Originally posted by mnkeybsness
i hate it when people comment about things they hate about the way people comment about things.
I was waiting for someone to say that.
Quality Huh?
But, the iPod offers ease-of-use including an ergonomic design that makes one-handed operations simple, fast file transfer w/ charging while syncing, integration with the best computer jukebox there is, excellent sound quality, a handy remote, etc. It has an insanely large cache to eliminate skips, a very good battery life (I've gotten more than 10 hours out of it, you just have to read the manual) and it looks cool.
Could the remote have an LCD display, yeah and that would be very cool. Could it have a tuner, who cares? The radio blows here, and if I wanted to listen to the radio I would have bought a radio, this is just another bit of circuitry that I'd never bother with.
Plus, does the iRiver have a clock, contacts lists, games, or a calender. Hell, I bought a MP3 player and got a PDA for free.
So argue all you want but IMHO the iPod is the best music player out, its fast, sexy, cheap, useful and reliable. iRiver et. al. can't say that.
Comparing something merely on price is the most simplistic way of thinking about anything, there is always something in that price. Why is Kia's SUV cheaper than a Jeep? You will know when you stuck on the trail.
Why is a Daewoo cheaper than a 240Z? You will know when you choking on its dust.
Why is an iRiver cheaper than an iPod?
Do you really want to find out?
Originally posted by Abstract
Depending on cost, if I could save $120 bucks (and I'm sure I could since Apple's prices are ridiculously high), then I would get this baby. If the price difference only ends up being $50-60, then its the iPod for me.
Or better yet, I would get the 256MB or 512MB mp3 player that lasts 24 hours on a single AA battery.
But, the iPod offers ease-of-use including an ergonomic design that makes one-handed operations simple, fast file transfer w/ charging while syncing, integration with the best computer jukebox there is, excellent sound quality, a handy remote, etc. It has an insanely large cache to eliminate skips, a very good battery life (I've gotten more than 10 hours out of it, you just have to read the manual) and it looks cool.
Could the remote have an LCD display, yeah and that would be very cool. Could it have a tuner, who cares? The radio blows here, and if I wanted to listen to the radio I would have bought a radio, this is just another bit of circuitry that I'd never bother with.
Plus, does the iRiver have a clock, contacts lists, games, or a calender. Hell, I bought a MP3 player and got a PDA for free.
So argue all you want but IMHO the iPod is the best music player out, its fast, sexy, cheap, useful and reliable. iRiver et. al. can't say that.
Comparing something merely on price is the most simplistic way of thinking about anything, there is always something in that price. Why is Kia's SUV cheaper than a Jeep? You will know when you stuck on the trail.
Why is a Daewoo cheaper than a 240Z? You will know when you choking on its dust.
Why is an iRiver cheaper than an iPod?
Do you really want to find out?
I posted this in 'Suggest me an iPod '
The creative Nomad has all the functions of the iPod, has both iEEE1394(by adapter) and USB2.0 support, is cheaper and is available in a 60GB model.
Remember apple has large overheads and people who use apples blindly rarely look elsewhere for competitive products, hence they jack the prices.
40GB iPod $499 (www.apple.com)
60GB Creative Nomad $408 (www.compuplus.com)
(prices in USD)
the dimensions of the nomad are
3" x 4.4" x 0.86" taken from http://www.nomadworld.com/products/...nXtra/specs.asp
The iPods dimensions are
2.4" x 4.1" x 0.62 taken from www.apple.com
What's this about the iRiver? the competition is already out there, and looking better
Check out the whole range on www.creative.com
The creative Nomad has all the functions of the iPod, has both iEEE1394(by adapter) and USB2.0 support, is cheaper and is available in a 60GB model.
Remember apple has large overheads and people who use apples blindly rarely look elsewhere for competitive products, hence they jack the prices.
40GB iPod $499 (www.apple.com)
60GB Creative Nomad $408 (www.compuplus.com)
(prices in USD)
the dimensions of the nomad are
3" x 4.4" x 0.86" taken from http://www.nomadworld.com/products/...nXtra/specs.asp
The iPods dimensions are
2.4" x 4.1" x 0.62 taken from www.apple.com
What's this about the iRiver? the competition is already out there, and looking better
Check out the whole range on www.creative.com
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