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I'm just arguing that the fact that Celsius is based on water doesn't make it any less an arbitrary system (or any better a system) than Fahrenheit.
I have to disagree; basing a scale on water, the single most important and plentiful compound on Earth, makes a lot more sense the basing it on another compound, say Al(NO3)3.
 
I'm just arguing that the fact that Celsius is based on water doesn't make it any less an arbitrary system (or any better a system) than Fahrenheit.

It does make more sense though to say that water freezes at 0 then at 32. The metric system just makes more sense. I have spent the past year at work converting what ever I could to metric to avoid confusion, especially when dealing with critical temperatures.
 
-5 * 2 + 30 =
-10 + 30 =
20

20 != 40

The accurate C->F conversion is
-5 * 9/5 + 32 =
-9 + 32 =
23
Still pretty close.

Even at -40 where they should be the same.

-40 * 2 + 30 --> -50

:)

Why do people insist on using [C * 9/5 + 32 = F]?

Is 1.8 really that hard to remember?
Yes for us brain challenged (read decimal) folks! :p

OK, that makes sense, but I'm still going to stick with 1.8. :p :)
Stubborn I see! ;) :p :D

For me, I'll just stick to the approximation since it is so easy to do in my head.

From C to F: Double, and then add 30.

From F to C: Subtract 30, and then divide by 2.

Unless, of course, I am doing some important calculations. Then I'll use the real formulas.
 
That is more than being poor at maths. Surely people know that if they owe someone £6 (i.e -6) they owe less than if they owe them £8 (-8). It really isn't rocket science.

In the context, the question was not whether -6 degrees Celsius is warmer or colder than -8 degrees, the question was whether it was "higher" or "lower". As you just said yourself, owing £6 is _less_ than owing £8. -6 degrees is less cold than -8.

And this was about lottery tickets and the rules for winning. If you design a lottery ticket, which is a million dollar business, then surely you can put in a bit of effort to make sure the rules are so clear that they are impossible to misunderstand. Otherwise you get complaints, which cost money, and worse, you rip off customers who don't realise they have won because the rules are too complicated.
 
In the context, the question was not whether -6 degrees Celsius is warmer or colder than -8 degrees, the question was whether it was "higher" or "lower". As you just said yourself, owing £6 is _less_ than owing £8. -6 degrees is less cold than -8.

They asked for a temperature which was lower than -8. In the context -6 is higher than -8. In fact -6 is higher / warmer / more than -8 in any context. I don't understand where the confusion could come in. You just need to draw a number line to see that.
 
I have an unscientific theory that people from colder climates are more likely to know how negative numbers work. Where I live, everyone knows -30 is totally-****-yourself ****ing cold, whereas -15 is only completely ****ing cold. That's all Fahrenheit, not your crazy european units.

lmao. i was just thinking the same thing. let her come to canada and ask what is colder. i mean, -6 to -8 is only 4 degrees difference ;) , but ask about -8 or -20 and she'd know pretty quickly.

i kind of feel sorry for her. there will be a moment when someone pulls her aside and whispers some basic math to her.

doh!

lol
 
i vote we use the rankine scale

farenheit is nice as it provides more differentiation than celcius or kelvin....

what sad is how few people have ever even heard of rankine or know what it is.

In cause you are wondering Rankine to to Farenheit as Kelvin is to Celcius.


0 Rankine = 0 Kelvin which is absolute Zero.

Now now I only used rankine for a few short weeks over the summer 2 years ago in thermo.
 
It does make more sense though to say that water freezes at 0 then at 32. The metric system just makes more sense. I have spent the past year at work converting what ever I could to metric to avoid confusion, especially when dealing with critical temperatures.

lol what makes water so speical.

farentheit was from wikipedia

" is that the mixture of ice, salt, and water registered the lowest temp temperature Fahrenheit could attain in the lab, so he used that for his zero point, using his body temperature as 96 °F"

There are alot of theories it seems as well
 
what sad is how few people have ever even heard of rankine or know what it is.

In cause you are wondering Rankine to to Farenheit as Kelvin is to Celcius.


0 Rankine = 0 Kelvin which is absolute Zero.

Now now I only used rankine for a few short weeks over the summer 2 years ago in thermo.

And what has The Rankin Miss P got to do with temperature?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2005/05/04/miss_p_person_profile.shtml

For everyone else....it's mathematics or maths not math.
 
I laughed, but now I'm just disappointed, there really needs to be some kind of IQ test, if you don't pass, extermination, it's only fair to the rest of us...
 
Not in the US it isn't. It's often just called "Math"

Which has always confused the hell out of me. If you shorten mathematics it is logical to shorten it to maths. The only reason I can think for the yanks to say math is if they have a French influence and are actually shortening mathematique rather than mathematics.
 
Which has always confused the hell out of me. If you shorten mathematics it is logical to shorten it to maths. The only reason I can think for the yanks to say math is if they have a French influence and are actually shortening mathematique rather than mathematics.
Dude, don't try to make sense of the american way of doing things.
 
Which has always confused the hell out of me. If you shorten mathematics it is logical to shorten it to maths. The only reason I can think for the yanks to say math is if they have a French influence and are actually shortening mathematique rather than mathematics.

In the American way of english mathematics is an actionable verb not a pleural noun.So math would be the logical short of mathematics.

Examples :
actionable verb :/adjective

Peace studied mathematics in college and does math as a hobby.

Yes.Americans are a bit strange but you can thank us for taking over the world!! :p
 
"Math" sounds really weird. "Maths" sounds normal.

In the American way of english mathematics is an actionable verb not a pleural noun.So math would be the logical short of mathematics.

Examples :
actionable verb :/adjective

Peace studied mathematics in college and does math as a hobby.

Yes.Americans are a bit strange but you can thank us for taking over the world!! :p

Why should I believe that from someone who doesn't put spaces after full stops, but does before ':' ;)
 
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