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Discussion in 'iPad' started by Alaxlmartin, Nov 12, 2018.
I don't understand why only the 1 TB models get 6 GB RAM -- that seems unfair.
Well, I didn’t mention iCloud anywhere as that’s not part of my usage referred to in the storage, first of all. Storage will absolutely creep up over time as apps tend to get more complex, people take (wait for it) more photos... and store them local and in iCloud (if they have the space). Apparently you’ve never run out of space on a device because it was caching photos locally even when set to hold thumbnails and not clearing them out effectively - I have and it’s annoying.
I can absolutely tell you from personal experience how irritating it is trying to update a 16 gig iPad when it doesn’t have enough space for the update - used to be enough, not anymore, because of - you guessed it - the slow creep over time.
Nor is my decision based on “fearmongering”, rather my own, personal experience with a 64 gig phone and a 128 gig iPad. There is significantly more management trying to get by with the base storage level as time goes on, at least in my opinion and experience, which is irritating and eliminated by increasing storage, which can be frustratingly pricey. I won’t comment on our experience as I have no idea what it is and whether it’s based on “fearmongering” or workflow.
percent of users needing 4k content less than 1 percent
My point was based on iCloud, with iCloud there is no file management required. Things get deleted and offloaded to the cloud automatically based on available storage. There is no burden on the user at all. iCloud simply doesn’t work that way.
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I just don’t think from the way you’ve described things that you actually have experience using an active cloud management system. iCloud is baked into everything iOS and even Mac OS , it isn’t the same as shifting files to Google Drive or Dropbox.
However everyone’s use case differs and if you prefer to store all your files locally then obviously you need more local storage
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64GB is enough for me. All my work documents are on the company sharepoint drive, and i don't use my ipad to take photos or videos because i have an iPhone X for that which is a lot easier to use. My personal photos get uploaded to onedrive.
Games can easily chew up space, but you should be able to manage this by having only 4/5 games installed at the same time, i mean at the end of the day how many games can you really concentrate on when you are supposed to be working on your "pro" device ;-)
I don't watch HDR films and stuff downloaded from iTunes i should say, and i use Netflix and Spotify for music and film.
Why’d you switch to the 11?
I dont store stuff locally (I'm fully cloud-based), and I dont play games on my phone/tablets. Therefore, my storage is exclusively dedicated to Apps, Operating System, and photos (before they get dumped to the cloud).
For this reason, I always go for the base model and it's perfectly fine.
It is to do with the larger 1TB storage. It takes more memory to page the drive. Not enough to warrant the 2GB difference but they don’t configure anything between 4GB/6GB.
Had they stuck with 4GB on the 1TB model would have resulted in less RAM available than the 64/256/512GB models.
I don't pay for storage. In Google Drive I have a lot more than that, spread in hundreds of FREE accounts, most of them I was able to create without SMS validation, which is very hard, since it's very random (when Google don't ask about this) and 99.9% of the time Google restricts a single phone number to 3-4 accounts if I am not mistaken.
These 4K contents I told you about I have a few of them (less than 5) in these accounts, splitted in 14.2 GB parts.
For example: The Matrix (1999) = 52 GB. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) = 72.3 GB. Only the movie, in lossless, extracted from the Ultra-HD Blu-ray (4K, 2160p).
I also have other lossless contents such as DVDs and Blu-rays (1080p). And of course lossy. Not to mention ebooks (I think 110 GB), songs, images...
The thing is: I don't want to rely on the internet all the time to play and access these contents. I'll need to move some of these to my device for offline viewing. What I discovered over the years is that even if you don't put a lot of stuff in yours it's going to fill up very quickly.
Take my Windows 10 (PC) for example. I use a 120 GB SSD. There are no games in this machine, aside from PES 2017 and Duke Nukem. Adobe After Effects is wasting 2.48 GB. It says here this is the app that is wasting more disk space. All the others aren't wasting more than 1 GB. Vegas Pro and Adobe Acrobat = 1.10 and 1.32 GB. And I remember installing them in my 4 TB (or 1 TB) normal Hard Drive(s).
Still this C: SSD drive has (currently) 82 GB being used and less than 30 GB available. Even if I format this drive (which I intend to do in a near future) I don't think no matter what I do it will waste less than half of these 120 GB with the OS.
Today I would never buy less than 1 TB (SSD) for Windows.
In my IPP 10.5 I don't have lossless contents (except for a movie which is using 20 GB). As of this moment I have 27 movies and a few other videos, which are small (1, 2 GB each). This video player alone is wasting 130 GB.
And I didn't even install games or heavy apps in this iPAD. I also don't record with the iPAD camera often, and when I do I move the files quickly to my PC (and from there to Youtube / Google Drive), to release more space.
Fair enough. Just a tip though concerning the movies. Use Plex and stream / convert them on the fly on iPad to mobile optimised format.
For my needs 64GB devices are mire than plenty.
heck i was fine with 16gb
This is the simplest and best answer. Sums it up perfectly. I use my iPad ALL the time. It’s even more used than my iPhone and yet? I’m only using 17 gigs on my pro. Most of everything I do is steaming
No, it's not. If you use many apps and listen to music eventually you'll find yourself in the situation where you have to delete some of them from time to time. If you still have a choice go for the device that has more storage within.
I listen to plenty of music.. on Apple Music , very little storage required.
Same. I plan on getting the wireless hard drive for the IPP as well. I will use it with my phone and mac also.
Thanks for that great explanation!
A big part was financial... I just couldn’t stretch to the 256 12.9. The other part was that I quite like the 10.5s that my family members have and had been thinking about moving back to a smaller size. In that respect, I’m glad I didn’t push it because I really like this form factor, and I never found myself using side by side full iPad apps on the big daddy so there wasn’t really a reason beyond the bigger screen size.
64GB is more than enough for my needs as I store important documents in iCloud and don't have any films/movies or music locally stored on my iPad (unless I'm traveling). But again, YMMV.
I’m sorry, what? Well as someone who made do with the base model 16s for quite some time I’m pretty damn “familiar” with how cloud management works, but keep it up with the assumptions, you’re really doing a bang up job. You’re pretty good with condescension, that’s for sure.
If your contention is that iCloud always works and doesn’t fall down and cause inconvenience and annoyance, well, I can’t help fix you and you are flat wrong, at least in my experience because I wouldn’t dare presume how well it works for you
Quit being a passive aggressive jerk , icloud works this way on Mac as well as iOS, it decides when to offload files and when to keep them stored locallly. It all happens auromatically and applies to music , photos and videos as well as files.
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For the first time I have gone with 64g for both the 12.9 which won’t leave the house and 64g for the 11 which will leave the house. I have previously always gone with 128 or 256 in previous iPads and was surprised when checking storage recently on my iPads that I had not gone above 45 g as I stream most content and my photos are in the cloud so I am settling for the 64g as this gives me the versatility to have both 12.9 and 11.
I use my iPad hours and hours a day every single day. It’s what keeps me sane at work and yet this is all the space I use. When all your crap is in the cloud and you’re not really into playing games and other high storage stuff, 64 is more than I’ll even need
It depends on your usage. I know that when I had the ipad pro 128 12.9, i only filled up around 80 gigs, with 40 gigs of that as movies, and really, i never took those movies off. I'm currently testing both ipads at 64Gb and 256Gb and i have been using the 11 inch at 64Gb for the past 4 days trying to emulate both my work flow and my personal tasks. I'm up to around 25 Gigs used and i added about 4 high-resolution netflix shows to see how much would take. I don't game so i don't take up much space.
So that's 30 gigs left to use for documents, since I have fully embraced cloud based storage and collaboration tools, i don't feel the need to keep things on my ipad - it was meant to be my companion device. I know that in the future, i might want to transfer photos do some edits, but i don't expect to keep any of those photos on my ipad so a working 20GB workspace should be suffice for me. Especially for the next 2 years. Most people say buy enough storage for what you think you will need in the future - i don't think i'll ever reach 256GB. If this was a full OS like windows or MAC OS, i would easily tell everyone to go 256Gb, but because the iOS has a small footprint - i think i can manage.