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Is a New 24-Inch iMac Coming in 2023? What We Know So Far
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Because Laptops will outsell desktops by a large amount - especially the MacBook Air.
A lot of people supplement a Mac laptop with some kind of Mac desktop at home. It's irrelevant that laptops are used predominately out there as far as %. That also really shouldn't be a big factor when it's appropriate to update hardware, that should go by tech availability of AS SoC's and overall cost of manufactured product.
The consumer then decides what he needs at the moment, not reduced to few comparable choices of older technology because of a 2 year cycle compared to 1 year cycle IMHO.
For me the reason I have both it's an important fall back in case one Mac fails for some reason. It also allows me to do a DFU restore for example. Just got a laptop only and the system gets weird, you go to the Apple Store instead.
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As I've posted previously I think the M2 disappointed Apple and there are suggestions they reduced their M2 requirement. So its logical not to produce an iMac in M2 configuration with M3 so close on its heels, as customers know the M3 is already in production, so why would they buy an M2 device, when sadly other M2 devices have in my opinion under performed, or at least not carried forward the advances in the M1 iMac, which was a great device and possibly were expectation from customers and Apple were not lived up to with the M2, and some of its well reported problems.
I explained some time ago why I would give the M2 a miss, and if I came up with that conclusion why should Apple not come up with the same conclusion.
Looking forward to M3 though.
I explained some time ago why I would give the M2 a miss, and if I came up with that conclusion why should Apple not come up with the same conclusion.
Looking forward to M3 though.
I bet for every person who has a laptop and desktop there will be many more who only have one or the other. From a buisiness point of view, it makes more finincial sense to spend more money developing machines that are going to sell more. I just don't think the iMac, Studio and Pro sell in large enough numbers to justify a yearly update. I'm guessing the M1 MBA is still a massive seller so I think people will buy older hardware if it fulfills their needs. Propper Pros will buy what they need when they need it to support their business/income.
The only thing to add to this mutual view, is 2 facts, first is the Mac Pro is terribly old (2019), and the 24" iMac (2021) is 2 years already. Second a lot of people are buying Mac because they are now using iPhones. So I don't disagree a M3 would be nicer then a M2, its just like everyone else have no idea if we see it this year definitively. I hope that the general emphasis its getting something much better for both solutions.
And what's the first thing that laptop users want? WIFI!! What did Apple kill? Give you a guess...
They had great wifi goodies. Seriously... Seemed shortsighted then, and shortsighted now.
But an M3 in an iMac. Hmm...
I think once the M3 lineup is released we will have a much clear idea of Apple's M chip strategy in terms of timings and product updates. At the moment we have one data point (transition from M1 to M2) which occurred across a pandemic (at least for the M2 design) and supply line crisis.The only thing to add to this mutual view, is 2 facts, first is the Mac Pro is terribly old (2019), and the 24" iMac (2021) is 2 years already. Second a lot of people are buying Mac because they are now using iPhones. So I don't disagree a M3 would be nicer then a M2, its just like everyone else have no idea if we see it this year definitively. I hope that the general emphasis its getting something much better for both solutions.
Do you think M3 will be a huge leap from M2 or it will be the same as M2 was from M1?
I think it's going to be kind of the same thing. Maybe 20% more performance and increase of energy efficiency. Kind of small upgrade from M2 but quite a big one from M1. I think Apple wants to create this 'ladder effect' overtime. The same how they did with their products. The big boom was M1 which had a huge impact moving away from intel and from now on is a steady progression. That's how I see it so far.
This is exactly why I left Apple and went back to a PC. I had a 27" 2009 iMac as my main driver (with bootcamp) that served me well for many years, but the subsequent generations of iMacs did not impress me, and when Apple moved to the M1, I was left with only one upgrade path: the 24" iMac. With extremely limited hardware options, irregular updates, bizarre design choices, inflated pricing, sudden discontinued product lines, underwhelming graphics performance, mediocre components, locked down and soldered parts, and lack of target display, I finally decided a few years ago that enough was enough.
I can build a more powerful desktop computer for 2/3 the cost (including monitor). I sometimes miss Mac OS (prefer it over Windows), but that's a small sacrifice compared to the headache of trying to fit Mac hardware to my needs.
I can build a more powerful desktop computer for 2/3 the cost (including monitor). I sometimes miss Mac OS (prefer it over Windows), but that's a small sacrifice compared to the headache of trying to fit Mac hardware to my needs.
Apple being apple in the worst way.
I was a no.1 target consumer for this- to replace my 27". And...NOTHING. Screen size reduction to save costs/reduce models, and the most basic of chipsets and reduced connectivity- what i would call a disaster product (in terms of downgrades).
i got to see this firsthand and its a good built product, no doubt. That said this was built with NO consideration of others that need to replace their 27" imacs...like the fully loaded 23" 2013 model im typing this on now.
So it's wonderful to hear those apple clowns shipments are dropping like a brick. They absolutely deserve it.
I was a no.1 target consumer for this- to replace my 27". And...NOTHING. Screen size reduction to save costs/reduce models, and the most basic of chipsets and reduced connectivity- what i would call a disaster product (in terms of downgrades).
i got to see this firsthand and its a good built product, no doubt. That said this was built with NO consideration of others that need to replace their 27" imacs...like the fully loaded 23" 2013 model im typing this on now.
So it's wonderful to hear those apple clowns shipments are dropping like a brick. They absolutely deserve it.
An easy way to do that is to go with the design of my LG OLED TV. The electronics are a thick enclosure at the bottom on the back. The actual display is about ¼" thick. If Apple went that route there would be no chin and plenty of room for whatever ports desired. The 24" iMac would only be 12" high.
Ah, I think you may have misunderstood something about that article. It actually said that all Mac sales are down, not just laptops. Yes, there was more focus in the article about laptops, but that's because Mac laptop sales are 74% of all Mac sales, with desktops only 26% (in the September 2022 quarter). MacBook Pros were 40%, and MacBook Airs 34%, each being more than all desktop sales alone. So I don't think this "frees up" chip production for desktops, as it's the lack of desktop demand that drives that.
I can see several major factors driving sales down:
1) Worldwide inflation outstripping wages, reducing consumer spending power.
2) Worldwide interest rate rises, adding to the pain, particularly to mortgage holders, also reducing consumer spending power.
3) Predictions of impending recession causing people to be cautious about spending.
4) Most buyers of Apple Silicon Macs have picked up some form of M1 series Mac, and can see no compelling reason to upgrade to an M2 series.
Sure, the desktop Mac lineup leaves a lot to be desired, whereas the laptop range is mostly up to date, so these figures might be skewed:
- No Apple Silicon Mac Pro
- No iMac with the Pro/Max chip
- iMac is notably awkward in design.
- iMac limited to 24"
- No suitably priced displays to suit the Mac Mini, or add a second display to an iMac (the entire M1 iMac is cheaper than the Studio Display!)
- These figures out before the first Mac Mini with the Pro chip.
Agreed. I would have jumped if there was an option for more RAM & additional ports.
The pandemic upset the well laid plans of countless people and businesses worldwide. Why would Apple be any different?
Lately, Apple seems to be following in Intel's upgrade footsteps instead of Steve Job's footsteps.
This M1, M1Pro, M2, M2Pro, M3, etc... whatever, is nearly tick-tock marketing but more poorly executed.
They need to focus on better design (which is not the same as better hardware). IMHO the iPhone 11, MB, iMac 27 are far more beautiful designs than the current curved bricks that Apple is selling. It's like they've taken all their recent design cues from the 2011 mac mini.
And on top of that, Apple needs to sell more premium (not ultra premium) products like screens, and accessories, and then updating their old line ups like the 27" iMac, MB and macmini.
This M1, M1Pro, M2, M2Pro, M3, etc... whatever, is nearly tick-tock marketing but more poorly executed.
They need to focus on better design (which is not the same as better hardware). IMHO the iPhone 11, MB, iMac 27 are far more beautiful designs than the current curved bricks that Apple is selling. It's like they've taken all their recent design cues from the 2011 mac mini.
And on top of that, Apple needs to sell more premium (not ultra premium) products like screens, and accessories, and then updating their old line ups like the 27" iMac, MB and macmini.
One of the most fun, original designs from Apple from the last decade. A breath of fresh air compared to all the boring grey/silver designs they’ve released mostly.
Unfortunately the iMac is an incredibly wasteful product where the screen is discarded with the computer (or vice versa). I don’t think I can support this in 2023. I also hope they will extend a sustainability mindset with iPads and iPhones, including making recycling a more attractive proposition.
Unfortunately the iMac is an incredibly wasteful product where the screen is discarded with the computer (or vice versa). I don’t think I can support this in 2023. I also hope they will extend a sustainability mindset with iPads and iPhones, including making recycling a more attractive proposition.