i wasnt trying to imply before christmas i was trying to say a nano will come out before a 3G one will..my bad
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Is a new iPhone coming before Christmas?
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i wasnt trying to imply before christmas i was trying to say a nano will come out before a 3G one will..my bad
I still don't really see the market for an iPhone nano. I don't know, maybe one could fit into the product line... it just doesn't seem like there's much of a gap anywhere (in terms of price) to fit another type of phone. Time will tell.
My only problem with 3G is that i would imagine an increase in the data plan. No way is ATT giving us unlimited 3G for $20 a month.
To the poster offering a friendly wager: you're on. There will be no new iPhones released this year.
No there is no new iPhone coming before Christmas. Reason why is the iPhone (8GB) was announced and going on sale in the UK in November. If there were going to be a new iPhone before Christmas, it would have been made available during this UK announcement. So because of this, there won't be a new iPhone here in the US either before Christmas.
I believe that Apple would NOT release a new iPhone in UK before the US... not just because they are based here, but there are many many more iPhones sold here than there. They don't want to piss off the bulk of their customers.
Apple can easily release a new iPhone in the US without offering it in the rest of the world. They have done it before with everything from iTunes to iPhone.
Yeah, but this is Apple. They have never released a significantly upgraded version of their products within this kind of timeframe. They've been known to upgrade their computers and drop prices at the same time, but that's nothing akin to what we're talking about here with a "new" iPhone.
I can only speak for myself, but I just don't do a lot of hardcore browsing out and about. EDGE is very fast for the stuff I do need when running around - Google Maps and email. If I do need to access a website on the run, finding WiFi is easy enough.
Right. I think most users need the web for finding information on the fly-- where's the nearest taco bell, or whatever. If you are sitting in a park and doing hardcore surfing, maybe it's time to take a look around, and perhaps pull that dog-eared paperback out of your back pocket.
As for a new iPhone by Christmas, that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
I use a blackjack with 3G.. I would hardly say not many towers. I get 3G most of the time.. I live in austin which has pretty good coverage and travel mostly to major metros so YMMV.
I will get the iPhone when it has 3G. Using safari on regular web pages seems to me to be one of the key differentiators and Edge is just a bit too slow for that on a regular basis for me. I have an iPod Touch to tide me over and use safari when in wifi. Fun toy.
I will get the iPhone when it has 3G. Using safari on regular web pages seems to me to be one of the key differentiators and Edge is just a bit too slow for that on a regular basis for me. I have an iPod Touch to tide me over and use safari when in wifi. Fun toy.
They've been offering it since they launched their 3G network.
The 19.99 MediaMAX Unlimited add-on has been around for over a year, and is available for any non-PDA phone. For reference, they define "PDA" as "A phone with a stylus" (Treo 680/750, and the 8125, but not the BlackJack or 3125).
First, I doubt any new iPhones at all before next year. But, in regard to this statement, I would point out that Jobs would NOT announce any new features for a Nov rollout. It would KILL all current sales if he were to say, "And with this rollout, you can also get a 16 Gig phone." Apple NEVER pre-announces.
But they do silent upgrade. Like I said, I do NOT see it happening. But if it were to, it would never be telegraphed beforehand. You would just be pleasantly surprised in November.
That is how Apple works.
Anybody that has used the iPhone would classify it as a PDA Phone and will compare favorably to any other PDA phone. My point is I believe they create catagories to suite their needs. The iPhone requires an unlimitted data plan at a low cost so they created this special plan for it. I believe this is the reason you can't put the iPhone on a business plan because of the $20 per month cost. I think you will see a $40 data plan for the iPhone about the same time they allow you to put it on a business plan. Not sure what reason they will have but they will come up with something. Maybe support for Exchange or 3G or ??.
AT&T literally uses "has a stylus / does not have a stylus" as their distinction between phones that can use MediaMAX and PDA Connect.
The plan is identical to the MediaMAX plan, and costs $0.01 more.
No.
The BlackJack is a 3G phone with full Mobile ActiveSync (Exchange) support, and uses the $19.99 MediaMAX plan.
The 3125 is also a 3G phone with full Mobile ActiveSync support, and uses the $19.99 MediaMAX plan.
1. When was the Stylus definition created. Before or After the iPhone. My guess is before. My point is they do this to separate business users for consumers. I am just saying the iPhone is in a class by itself.
2. 3125 should not even be discussed. Not even close to a PDA phone.
3. You got me on the BlackJack. Maybe it uses the old WM5 SmartPhone addition and ATT has no plans to provide and upgrade. I.E. Obsolete Phone very soon.
What is your reason for not allowing the iPhone to be put on a Business Plan if not for the data plan cost?
How? What function does the iPhone have from a network perspective, that Windows Mobile doesn't?
It runs Windows Mobile, connects to Exchange, has a browser. In terms of typical PDA functionality, it is more a PDA phone than the iPhone.
It runs Windows Mobile 5. So does the Treo 750. The only appreciable difference is that the Treo has a touchscreen.
The functional differences between Windows Mobile 5 and 6 are negligible, at best. Not that that changes the fact that a Blackjack (or any other WM device) can constantly poll an Exchange server, where an iPhone is limited to 15-minute checks by design.
I would guess it comes down to support, and the fact that there are tons of misguided people out there who think that an iPhone is a BlackBerry / Treo / WM replacement in functional terms.
I think you are missing my entire point. ATT was "required" to offer a $20 data plan. It would have been much more difficult to sell the iPhone without a cheap data plan do to the heavy use of data. And because of that I feel that they are concerned about the loss of revenue on the $40 plans.
I also do not agree that the reason has anything to do with support. Most businesses have their own internal support. As far as comparing the iPhone to the Blackberry and WM devices. Everyone is aware that EMAIL on the iPhone is a major problem for true business use. However, you are the one that is misguided if you feel that this could not be solved very easily with a software update. At that point you would have a phone that could easily eat into the $40 per month data revenue of other phones if they continued to charge $20 per month for the iPhone. Don't take my word for, just POLL the Blackberry users to see which UI they would rather have if the EMAIL problems were solved.
For the third time now, AT&T already offered that plan.
They bumped the price up $0.01.
There is no difference between the iPhone Data Plan and MediaMAX.
I'm willing to bet one of us works in the industry, and one of us does not.
If a typical not-Blackberry user takes their device to their IT department and complains, they're usually going to be sent to their carrier. It is completely irrational to expect an internal support department to provide support for every device on every network, without buying them every device for every network.
And yes, Apple could very easily license Mobile ActiveSync. But the point is that they haven't yet. If (or when) they do, the iPhone will almost certainly be offered on business plans.
As a former BlackBerry user, I can certainly attest to liking the iPhone. That's why I have one. But at the same time, the e-mail, contact sync, and note sync functionalities are absolutely incomparable.
If you were comparing BES to WM+Exchange, that would be something. But the iPhone's e-mail abilities (as currently enabled) aren't in the same league.
I see in this post and the prior post that you are starting to run out of rational comments and resulting to Childish comments about "who" has the biggest whatever.
For the record, I have been in the software business for > 30 years. I have over the years managed several data centers and managed support staffs so I think I know a little bit about support.
I see no need to try and have an intelligent conversation with you. Will have to wait to see if ATT continues to charge $20 all future iPhone Data Plans.
Then apparently, you haven't been reading my posts.
If that's true, I'm impressed that you've been able to float along for so long, when you seem to actively ignore information.
Clearly, you're incapable of it. If I don't agree with your conjecture, you're taking your ball and going home. Fair enough.