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Is anybody not worried about snoopers when taking their computer in for repair?

bobright said:
So help me understand this here if something fails that it wouldnt boot up normally, you'd still be able to access this part of the machine that clones and backs up e.g something like windows safe mode? How about if it is the hard drive that fails?

That's probably a dumb question but if the hard drive fails then you better just hope you backed up via time machine because you can't retrieve anything from a hard drive that died right? In this case the Apple tech would just toss and destroy my hard drive?
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First, if you have already cloned the drive while it was functioning, you should be able to boot from the clone if your primary drive fails. If you have another hardware issue, such as a failed logic board, you may not be able to boot from any drive. If a drive fails to the point that you can't boot from it, there is a possibility that you may still be able to retrieve files from it. Apple techs probably wouldn't destroy your drive if it fails. It's more likely they'd return it to you so you can try to recover files from it, if possible.
 
fa8362 said:
Is there a reason you or anyone else couldn't have done this?

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=child+porn+apple+repair&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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Why should I waste my time trying to support your baseless claim? If you make the claim, the burden of proving it is on you, not others. Rather than simply post a link to Google search results, most of which have nothing to do with repairs by Apple, you should try to find a specific case that proves your point. So far, you haven't done that. Supporting my earlier post on this issue:
A man in Stamford, Connecticut is now in police custody after taking his PowerMac G5 computer to an Apple store for repairs relating to problems with image files.
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Obviously, the images were found because the repair related to problems with images. Apple reps are not going to search through a users files if they don't directly relate to solving the problem being addressed.
 
GGJstudios said:
Rather than simply post a link to Google search results, most of which have nothing to do with repairs by Apple, you should try to find a specific case that proves your point. So far, you haven't done that. Supporting my earlier post on this issue:
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There's a case listed right there. Open your eyes. All of this has been a colossal waste of time. You were wrong then and you're still wrong.
 
Snooping aside, it's just good common sense to remove all your data. Especially if it's not backed up. What if your files get accidentally deleted?

What if something happens, like a catastrophic drive failure while you are using it?

My personal usage includes automated backups daily. One of which is stored off site in case of fire. If you value your data, a comprehensive backup routine is essential.
 
GGJstudios said:
First, if you have already cloned the drive while it was functioning, you should be able to boot from the clone if your primary drive fails. If you have another hardware issue, such as a failed logic board, you may not be able to boot from any drive. If a drive fails to the point that you can't boot from it, there is a possibility that you may still be able to retrieve files from it. Apple techs probably wouldn't destroy your drive if it fails. It's more likely they'd return it to you so you can try to recover files from it, if possible.
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Ahh ok so if my hard drive were to fail as I read this seems to be quite common, I can boot up from a cloned external, then completely wipe the internal hard drive that crapped out and then have it serviced?

If that is the case that's good to know gives me a bit of piece of mind.
 
fa8362 said:
There's a case listed right there. Open your eyes. All of this has been a colossal waste of time. You were wrong then and you're still wrong.
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Prove it. Which case? I already specified one in my prior post. If you can't post a link to prove your claim (as none of your links has), then stop making the claim. Don't post Google search results. Post a link to a specific case that proves your claim.
bobright said:
Ahh ok so if my hard drive were to fail as I read this seems to be quite common, I can boot up from a cloned external, then completely wipe the internal hard drive that crapped out and have it serviced?
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Yes, you can, provided your external backup is a bootable clone, such as one made with Carbon Copy Cloner. Time Machine cannot make bootable clones.
 
GGJstudios said:
Prove it. Which case? I already specified one in my prior post. If you can't post a link to prove your claim (as none of your links has), then stop making the claim. Don't post Google search results. Post a link to a specific case that proves your claim.

Yes, you can, provided your external backup is a bootable clone, such as one made with Carbon Copy Cloner. Time Machine cannot make bootable clones.
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Is this software one of the better recommended out there, do you use both this and Time Machine or just CCC? Can you do manual backups when you choose to with CCC or does an external have to be plugged in at all times?

I think I'll get this before I even get my new iMac, agree with ixodes routine backups are a must.
 
bobright said:
Is this software one of the better recommended out there, do you use both this and Time Machine or just CCC? Can you do manual backups when you choose to with CCC or does an external have to be plugged in at all times?

I think I'll get this before I even get my new iMac, agree with ixodes routine backups are a must.
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I only use CCC, because it can do everything TM can do, plus make bootable clones. No, you don't have to have the external plugged in all the time. You can do scheduled backups, manual backups, or even set it up so it backs up or offers to run one whenever you plug in the external drive.
 
GGJstudios said:
Please post a link to such information. There's more to the story.
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Here's the thing-- there is actually less to the story. The FBI (or someone) has been generating fake high-profile "busts" for awhile now, submitting them to sites like The Smoking Gun and linking from Drudge Report. Remember the pedo Amazon author awhile back? That was a trap. There was nothing illegal about buying his book, but god knows what they did with the data they gained from that.

There are many other examples in the news if you open your eyes. That's not even counting international conspiracies which have gotten horrendous.
 
GGJstudios said:
Prove it. There has been nothing posted that proves Apple reps will snoop through a user's files.
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You are the one that made the initial statement that Apple employees would not snoop in your computer. You know this how? You don't. Just stop already.
 
And folks thats why we use Time Machine and password protected accounts. I mean I would never take computer to repair center because of software issue and if I had to,I would just wipe the drive and after the repair restored from the tm backups.

Guys what youre fussing around, we have macs and this is really easy to avoid.
 
GGJstudios said:
I didn't think you could prove it.
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Well, I am not saying that I know of any circumstances of Apple employees looking at what is on someone's computer, but in the UK the most significant case was probably when Gary Glitter (70's Rock Star) took his PC into PC World for repair and staff there found Child Porn on his hard drive and reported it to the police.

Link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/517604.stm

Remind me again who is now head of Apple retail ?
 
Sharangad said:
http://article.wn.com/view/2012/08/22/Geek_Squad_finds_child_porn_on_mans_computer/

There are many more.

A senior bank exec in the UK 2-3 years ago handed in his laptop to his IT department and they found child pr0n on it.
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There is always a chance that a story is true. All things considered though, this is classic propaganda. Don't assume any part of it happened or that the people mentioned even exist.

Millions of people have been "educated" this way (in case you didn't know child porn is bad) and the merchants selling these stories have guaranteed income for decades. The former military-industrial complex has moved on to crime prevention.

That's fine, perhaps, but dangerously close to fraud and Orwellian "pre-crimes".
 
Mod Note:

Based on the progression of this discussion, it has been moved from the iMac forum to the Community Discussion forum.
 
I keep a factory hard drive with the original bare OS on it for this very reason.
 
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