Is apple falling behind on software?

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by boomer11, Oct 3, 2018.

  1. boomer11 macrumors regular

    Sep 23, 2014
    I found certain things like these to be common sense yet it takes many clicks/swipes on ios to even do these (if it's even possible). When did the iPhone become more confusing to use than Android?

    Like being able to pick out info in a Pdf and instantly emailing, texting or saving it.

    Or being able to select a product and set a picture reminder to buy it, or text to a friend?

    Or just smoothly use two apps at once? C'mon apple stop with the poop animojis and put something useful on the iPhone!
  2. now i see it macrumors 68040

    Jan 2, 2002
    Everyone knows iOS sucks at a lot of stuff and is a frustrating claustrophobic prison. Common knowledge for years.
  3. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

    Oct 17, 2011
  4. AppleB macrumors 6502a


    Oct 18, 2011
    I’ll play:

    This has been asked and answered ad infinitum over the years.
    Use the tools that you prefer. If you own a iOS device it must serve some purpose or why else buy it.
  5. boomer11 thread starter macrumors regular

    Sep 23, 2014
    i buy all kinds of devices b/c i want to see what other manufacturers are doing better than what i currently have. my next phone is probably gonna be the pixel 3. best take away from the x was i liked the gestures and suddenly found the dedicated home button/back arrow annoying to use. told myself i won't buy another phone without gestures.

    worse thing about the x was why can't i attach what i want to an email without going through icloud?!?!? such a simple thing which makes it even more frustrating
  6. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

    Sep 7, 2010
    Falling behind? When was it ahead? iOS has always been very restrictive compared to Android. I actually checked the date on the original post before responding to make sure someone hadn’t resurrected a thread from 2010!
  7. MUCKYFINGERS macrumors 6502a


    Jun 7, 2005
    Coming from a Pixel 2 I can tell you gesture navigation is way more fluid and intuitive on iOS 12 than android pie
  8. boomer11 thread starter macrumors regular

    Sep 23, 2014
    naw apple had a huge lead in the beginning. android earned its rep for being laggy and scattered. ios was the best thing since sliced bread when steve jobs was still alive. restrictive is fine is they are constantly adding useful features. i just feel apple has REALLY fallen behind on that front.
    --- Post Merged, Oct 3, 2018 ---
    yeah thats my sticking point if i leave samsung. the gestures are the best i've ever used. way more advanced and robust than on the x.
  9. unibility macrumors 6502a

    Apr 6, 2012
  10. C DM, Oct 3, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2018

    C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

    Oct 17, 2011
    Bingo. What is this "behind" or "ahead"? What does that even mean and more importantly what does it matter as far as me simply using the tool that does what I need/want?
  11. AppleB macrumors 6502a


    Oct 18, 2011
    Exactly. No one cares what device/OS I use and I don’t care what device/OS anyone else uses.
    I know lots of non techie people who don’t use both Android and iOS to their full advantage.

    For your average user it’s Facebook,Instagram, Twitter, YouTube and can they manipulate these platforms on their chosen device.
  12. Superhappytree, Oct 3, 2018
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2018

    Superhappytree macrumors 6502a


    Sep 10, 2015
    Yes, it has been since iOS 7. iOS 12 is good for older devices, but it’s still a overhyped half-polished version of iOS 11 to me. I also don’t understand all the “smooth, buttery, silky” hyperbole wording when describing its performance. I see stutters and frame drops all the time and have done since iOS 7. They must be using a completely different version to me. Control centre randomly stutters on the X and XS, it will be smooth one minute but will then stutter the next time you swipe it down. iPad multitasking stutters when swiping between open apps, the App Store stutters, the Watch App disgustingly stutters, the Music App stutters... it isn’t consistent at all. I thought iOS 12 was supposed to be resolving the frame rate issues? It has merely just sped up things like the share sheet and made opening apps a little faster. It isn’t smoother at all. iOS hasn’t been smooth since iOS 6. Every version since has added useful features but has been a cluster you-know-what in terms of execution, stability and polish. And those three things are what drew me to iOS in the first place. Now I find myself looking forward to the Pixel 3 (already have a Pixel 2) and am wanting to upgrade when I wouldn’t have even considered Android in the past because the experience of iOS was so good.
  13. tonybarnaby macrumors 65816

    Dec 3, 2017
    I’ve had every galaxy s phone besides the 5 and now the 9. Also had a Oneplus 3, lg v20 and 2 Moto z play (liked it so much I bought an extra from Best Buy for $150 refurb sale)

    I can’t get myself to buy another android. I really want to, but I just can’t do it. I’m considering a v30 to use as a media player. I am very interested in the 6T and the 6, but I just can’t pull the trigger. I don’t need Nova anymore. I have never rooted a phone. I’m also hooked on my Apple Watch, so I’m pretty much locked in just for that. I don’t own an Apple TV, iPad or MacBook.

    I’m very interested in the v40, pixel 3 xl, note 9, 6T and a few big screen budget Chinese phones like the mi max 3 and the 7.1” honor phone. But I just can not pull the trigger on ANY of them. My 8+ does what I want it to do and has the most predictable battery life I’ve ever had. Certainly not the best (z play wipes the floor with it) but Android system has never drained my battery in my pocket, and sending iMessages with high quality pictures is a breeze for my wife and daughter. Pics would come in on my s8+ and look like they were barely 420p.

    I guess you could say I was a onetime android fanatic who is waiting for a definitive reason to go back. I know all the phones I listed above will be great, but none of them will work with my watch and all of them are bound to have issues and terrible resale value in a year when I inevitably go to sell them. Sad, really. I want to believe.
  14. yoomy macrumors member

    Feb 25, 2008
    I've been using the Huawei P20 Pro until I got the XS Max. Haven't used iOS since my 6s Plus and I was interested to see how iOS has developed over those years. Obviously both have pros and cons, so I think there is no clear winner anymore.

    iOS gestures > Android Pie gestures for example. But on Android I can place my app icons on the bottom which allows me to easily reach those on a huge device. Why iOS does not allow me to do that is beyond me. It's like they still develop their OS on an iPhone 4 and ignore the bigger sizes. Also notifications on Android beat the the iOS system.

    So I wouldn't say Apple is falling behind yet but I was expecting a bit more.
  15. throAU macrumors 603


    Feb 13, 2012
    Perth, Western Australia
  16. tarsins macrumors 6502a


    Sep 15, 2009
    Anybody can find both good and bad in anything. Another pointless willy-waving thread.
  17. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

    Newtons Apple

    Mar 12, 2014
    Jacksonville, Florida
    Sounds like the OP is really wanting to go back to Android.

    Their apps are a Hot Mess!
  18. Flynnstone macrumors 65816


    Feb 25, 2003
    Cold beer land
    I too am less than impressed on all the emoji stuff.
    Good battery life like 10 would be nice. Or better is to improve it.
    I don’t understand why there is stuttering of the user interface. Poor programming and/or poor architecture I suppose.
  19. I7guy macrumors Core


    Nov 30, 2013
    Gotta be in it to win it
    Where is the interface stuttering? iOS 12.1 b2 on a 6s is very smooth.
  20. Starfia macrumors 6502a


    Apr 11, 2011
    Gosh, I don't think so. There are design choices people do and don't like, but that's more a matter of taste than advancement. In areas like privacy, security, machine learning, image processing, graphics libraries, augmented reality, speech synthesis, audio and video editing, and hardware integration (not to mention designing Swift – for my money, one of the best programming languages there's ever been), I'd nominate Apple as a leader if not the leader.
  21. Tech198 macrumors G5

    Mar 21, 2011
    Australia, Perth
    Is that translated to "a walled garden" ? Because everyone knows THAT too.

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