is apple super drive that bad ?

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  1. cudo macrumors regular

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    i have heard that super drive offered by apple in its current machines is of the same quality a pc user had 10 years ago, is it true ?

    is it true it is really slow and very offen happen to have problems with reading/writing date ?

    i have heard from a friend of mine that he was unable to read the CD he burnt with his macbook just few months ago.

    do you really need to purchase only top-of the range DVD/CD to be able to use them ? apparently super drive is not copable of using cheap DVD/CDs ?

    is it really such a big issue ? the same DVD/CD is not read by mac but is easly read by pc , true ?

    mac cannot use DVD-RW/CD-RW ? and if it does it is paingfully slow.

    could you please coment on that ...
     
  2. Jason S. macrumors 6502a

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    Not sure were your friend is getting his information. My drive always worked great. It makes a very horrible cringing sound, but that's actually normal for these notebooks.
     
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  5. acearchie macrumors 68040

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    the only thing that is bad about the DVD drives is the "5 time region change" but that isnt even apples fault!
     
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  7. bartelby macrumors Core

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    Were superdrives in PeeCees 10 years ago?

    Also Apple don't manufacture the drive.
     
  8. squeeks macrumors 68040

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    the only thing i know of that it cant use is DVD-R DL but that is pretty much a dead format now anyway...
     
  9. philgilder macrumors 68000

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    system profiler of my mbp says:
    DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +R DL, +RW

    appears to support it...
     
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    Mine can :p
     

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  11. Consultant macrumors G5

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    No problem what so ever, definitely not from normal usage.


    10 years ago, burning 650MB of files with DVD RAM took about 40 minutes.
    http://www.pcworld.com/printable/article/id,8836/printable.html

    Depends on which mac / superdrive / media, burning a DVD of 4gb takes from a FEW MINUTES to 15 minutes.


    Might be variety of things, likely causes are:
    - Cheap media (doesn't work well on any burner, reflecting material might chip off)
    - It was scratched
    - Small chance of being a mis-burn
    Can happen on PC or Mac.


    It will work the same as any PCs. Cheap stuff will break down. NOT mac specific. As to the other stuff, it's false.


    You probably don't want to waste your time with anything technical this person says, because unfortunately he is either really extremely unknowledgeable or an out right liar.
     
  12. Osarkon macrumors 68020

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    That's misinformed hogwash I'm afraid.

    The superdrives are absolutely fine, mine works every day without fault (although probably worth noting it had to be replaced because it was faulty a few months ago). Wow, look at the contradiction. :D
     
  13. Neil321 macrumors 68040

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    The two words that spring to mind "utter crap"
     
  14. Tallest Skil macrumors P6

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    In fact, if you can get away with it, make his life a living Windows. i.e., make his car's engine stop for no reason as he's driving, make him need to buy a new sink when he gets a new toothbrush, Follow him around for an entire day asking him about all the minutia of daily life... the usual...

    "You are about to buy a cheese danish. Cancel or Allow?" at the top of your lungs, stepping between him and the clerk.
     
  15. Slumbercub macrumors regular

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    Never had a problem with any of the superdrives on any of my Macs.
     
  16. Full of Win macrumors 68030

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    I think your friend needs to leave his crack house more often.
     
  17. ezekielrage_99 macrumors 68040

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    Your friend is just a moron or taking too many or not enough medication...

    That is SERIOUSLY the stupidest thing I've heard about a Mac and especially a Superdrive in the last few years, your friend deserves a Darwin Award.

    I've never had a problem with a Superdrive besides read/writes issues from a crap disc (which is like 1 in every 1000), Apple uses industry standard drives so it's most probably the same or similar drives that are used in the PC equivalent and for the record it takes around 15 min for me to burn a DVD.

    And seriously how would Apple hunt down 10 year old drives to put in new computers? It just doesn't make any sense. It seriously reminds me of the urban legend about how KFC is using Duck rather than Chicken...

    Anyway here's a quick grab from my System Profile

    MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-857E:

    Firmware Revision: ZB0E
    Interconnect: ATAPI
    Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported)
    Cache: 2048 KB
    Reads DVD: Yes
    CD-Write: -R, -RW
    DVD-Write: -R, -R DL, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL
    Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
    Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
    Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO
    Media: No

    I'm also sensing a troll here ;)
     
  18. BlakTornado Guest

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    It is, lol. I use cheapish CDs and DVDs for burning my music and videos that I make onto media discs... they work fine. Burning is fine. Honestly.

    Yeah, for a very small minority of CDs, it will not import properly. I got this a few times with some indie bands that I tried to rip - including my own album which I burnt from my recording studio.
    It is a drive issue because my friend with a Macbook had the same problem with my album BUT IT IS OVERCOME-ABLE. Really, don't worry about it. It's less likely to happen to you than it is.

    Don't worry about it.
     
  19. pitt1717 macrumors regular

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    ummm, sorry to say guys, but i kind of agree with his friend. i actually returned my first MBP (june/july) cause the drive was so slow i thought something was wrong. i got the second one and same thing.....so i guess its normal..but one of my first posts here if i remember was a question asking if the drive was supposed to be like this.
    as bad as it anoys me to this day, i rarely use cd drives so not to big a deal. but to prove the point it felt like it took forever when i installed leopard and installing xcode tools or whatever its called, showed 43 minutes to install (prob took about 20-25) but come on i dont think it should be that long

    anyway, ymmv, but thats just my opinion
     
  20. Consultant macrumors G5

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    Do you expect to install an OS in minutes? Leopard is on a dual layer DVD, with a number of items compressed.

    Have you ever installed windows? Do you know Windows xp pre-SP2 (CD size, 650mb) requires at least an hour or two for installation on a wintel laptop, and you have to babysit it, filling in some retarded MS popup questions a number of times. If you don't fill it in, then windows install will just get stuck. (XP SP2 still does it, but with slightly fewer steps, still quite a big waste of time).

    So, Leopard, 8gb install took you, lets say 25 to 45 minutes. With no user intervention necessary once install starts.

    While windows xp, at 650mb, less than 10% size, takes MORE than an 60 minutes to install and requires babysitting.

    Which is faster?
     
  21. bijou macrumors regular

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    Not sure where your friend is getting that info from, but it's been my experience that Apple uses the better drives and I've yet to burn a coaster in the past few years of making dvd's several times a week.

    I've replaced one drive in the Cube, it was a Pioneer (or Panasonic, can't remember) but only because the original wasn't a burner.
     
  22. squeeks macrumors 68040

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    hmm...i wonder why i thought it couldnt..OH thats right the superdrive on my old imac g5 couldnt i think
     
  23. masse macrumors 6502a

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    I get it all the time here.

    "My friend knows a TON about computers and stuff and they said _____"

    Fill in the blanks with:
    1) windows vista 64 gets no viruses
    2) macs aren't 64 bit,
    3) because I have an AMD, you multiply the clock speed by 2 because its 2 cores
    4) macbook pro's can't run auto cad
    5) this is the most powerful graphics you can get

    meanwhile he is on a new HP laptop that turns on half the time, overheats the other half, and has trouble running simple programs like matlab.

    I'm on a 3.5 year old computer and its a hell of a lot better :)
     
  24. cudo thread starter macrumors regular

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    ok, guys thanks for all ur replies i told my frined off :D
     
  25. Hankster macrumors 68020

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    Yeah! What he said!!!
     

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