Is Apple Working on a Hardware Fix for Future iPhone4 Batches?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Blorzoga, Jul 16, 2010.

  1. Blorzoga macrumors 68030


    May 21, 2010
    If, by the September 30 deadline, Apple has made production changes and begins selling phones that do not need a bumper to function properly, it will be very unfair to the early adopters. This would not be like some new feature that the original phone did not have, it would be a new feature that the original phone was SUPPOSED to have. Personally, my phone does lose signal when touched on the corner, but it's never affected me, I bought a bumper because I always use a case and the bumper seemed like the best choice since the buttons work well and there is no flash distortion, but I still would like to have a reengineered phone if one comes out in the near future. When and if one does, Apple ought to offer some type of trade-in program.
  2. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    No. As per Steve - all smart phones have weak spots

    read that as "we do not have any design problems"
  3. scaredpoet macrumors 604


    Apr 6, 2007

    The deadline is simply to shield the company from having to perpetually foist refunds and free cases at people. It's not meant to imply something about production or anything else.

    At best, by September 30 they'll likely just have some procedure in place to include a bumper in the box of every iphone 4 sold going forward.
  4. Zimmy68 macrumors 68000


    Jul 23, 2008
    For the last time...

    If there is no defect, there is nothing to fix. Right?

    Didn't you see the Lawnmower Man dude sitting in the X-Men room with the phone?

    They spent a 100 million dollars and found out nothing is wrong.
    The iPhone4s that will come out in January 2011 will be the exact same hardware as June 24th 2010.
    Take that to the bank! (According to Jobs)
  5. chembox macrumors 6502a

    Feb 17, 2010
    I'm voting yes. Phones with a simple coating can't be hard to manufacture at FoxConn.
  6. fender57 macrumors 6502

    Jul 7, 2010
    From endgadget's blog:

    I read that as they will continue to work on this issue. Same reason they said the September 30 bumper "deadline" would be "re-evaluated" at that time - the situation is fluid and they will continue to work this issue.
  7. nunes013 macrumors 65816


    May 24, 2010
    im wondering if they are doing this secretly and thats why the iphone went from 7-10 shipping to 3 weeks, they might be adding the coat secretly so they dont have to admit the error
  8. VenusianSky macrumors 65816


    Aug 28, 2008
    There was nothing from today's presentation that indicated whether or not the hardware will be modified in upcoming production.
  9. leftcoast macrumors member

    Jun 20, 2010

    They haven't ruled anything out though, however if they do add anything like maybe a polymar the backlash is going to be prety bad from all the early adopters and loyalist.
  10. fender57 macrumors 6502

    Jul 7, 2010
    What do you mean "admit the error"? They admitted the gap is a hot spot. They simply pointed out that all smartphones have an attenuation issue.
  11. nunes013 macrumors 65816


    May 24, 2010
    but i mean for dragging everything on, im not against them, mine has the flaw but im perfectly fine with it, i love my phone and the service in my house is only about 2 bars anyway, im planning on having this phone for the next 3 years
  12. Blorzoga thread starter macrumors 68030


    May 21, 2010
    Is the White Delay due to Antenna Reengineering?

    Is it possible that the real reason for the white iphone's delay was because they became aware close to 6/24 of the antenna issue and they're making a hardware fix to the white ones? If you buy a white one before 9/30, will you be entitled to a bumper?
  13. silverblack macrumors 68030


    Nov 27, 2007
    Let's for a moment pretend that Apple was able to come up with a hardware mod sometime within the last 22 days of discovering the antenna issue. What would happen... ?

    They would immediate put in an order to modify the production line in China. How soon will we see iPhone 4 with the new design? Probably a few weeks at the earliest, which puts us in September-October. That is, the new iPhone4 without the death grip problem - the ultimate solution.

    Now, what should Apple do in the meanwhile...

    First, they can't tell anyone a new batch of improved iPhone 4 is coming - leaks on new product is very bad of the existing stock (which they even confirmed in today's press conference). They still want us to buy the "defective" iPhone 4. So, they have to come out and brain wash everyone that the current iPhone 4 is NOT broken, and come up with a band-aid solution to patch the current batch of iPhone 4; hence the free bumpers/cases. But they only need to offer this for the next couple of months until the new design arrives.

    So there you are, a scenario that fits the events that have been taking place. You can decide how likely this will turn out to be the truth in September.
  14. pollster25 macrumors newbie

    Mar 29, 2010
    update to fix bugs posted today

    my screen sensor was causing memisery as calls were muted - dropped and redailing was occuring without me dialing as I am talking. The store rep told go home and sync IPONE 4 for patch it - in the patch the sensor problem would be fixed. WALLA I did and now screen shuts off when my face touches phone! Anyone tells you this phone ant got bugs is on apple's payroll!
  15. valleydog macrumors newbie

    Jul 2, 2010
    Having worked in the compliance field for the last 10 years I can assure you there will no immediate fix. Any fix apple may implement, regardless if it's hw or sw it's considered product modification that may offset the original compliance and subject to re-certification to FCC, SAR testing, and any other regulatory testing.

    It's likely this will be addressed with the next release i.e Iphone 5.
  16. Blorzoga thread starter macrumors 68030


    May 21, 2010
    There was no bug fix for the proximity sensor in the recent update. Steve Jobs mentioned that they were working on a fix. Your sensor has not changed. And it's voilà not walla.
  17. Chunkycat macrumors 6502

    Jul 12, 2010
    My guess is they are working on a hardware fix, but for the next generation iPhone, not future batches of iPhone 4. If there are changes for those iPhone 4s manufactured after September 30, it will be something invisible.
  18. SiskoKid macrumors 6502

    Jul 12, 2008
    If Droid phones aren't gonna "fix" the "problem" (hint: there isn't one), then Apple won't. Don't hold your breath:

    * Samsung I9000 Galaxy S:

    * HTC Evo Signal Attenuation:

    * Samsung Galaxy 1:

    * Samsung Galaxy 2:

    * Droid Incredible:

    * Droid Incredible (With Network Extender in Room):

    * Nexus One:

    * Nexus One vs. iPhone (start at 1:29):

    * Nexus One:

    * Nexus One (after Google's update to correct):

    * Nexus One:

    * Android G1:

    * "Major signal degradation when Nexus One is picked up" (N1 Thread on On this Problem):
  19. Syk macrumors 6502a

    Jun 20, 2010
    I don't see them doing anything to the ip4 in the next batches or in the future. The change will be in the next model if there is going to be one.

    If all of a sudden there was a hardware change. It's going to stir up a bigger crap storm and if that change also stopped the bar drop people are going to say Apple should have recalled instead of saying nothing was wrong, comparing other models and their bar drop and then go and change the antenna in later models then they really would be opening themselves up to a CALS.

    I hope whoever they source from the choose a nice looking case that keeps the profile slim. I don't care for Otterbox look or size. The newer ones don't look that good.

    I think the cases they choose will retail at $29.99, same price as the bumper but Apple will get those cases at a good discount.
  20. -aggie- macrumors P6


    Jun 19, 2009
    Where bunnies are welcome.
    How do you read between the lines of a press conference?
  21. iGuardian macrumors 6502a


    Aug 26, 2008
    Haden't thought of that. Excellent point.
  22. asleep macrumors 68040


    Sep 26, 2007
  23. skiltrip macrumors 68030

    May 6, 2010
    New York
    so true. Say they start working on it... test it... tweak it a bit... test it some more, then get ready for production.... before you know it, it's next spring, and it will indeed be the iPhone 4S/4GS/5.

    Hopefully AT&T will offer fully subsidized pricing even for those that bought the iPhone 4 and are only 1 year into their contract.
  24. pollster25 macrumors newbie

    Mar 29, 2010
    you are correct - it was not fixed

    No fix as sensor is now non existant. Back to square one - Apple asked me to send this phone back / so I am gong to reactivate 3Gs tomorrow at AT&T.
    My wife's 4g does not have this problem. Is this a big problem / can this be fixed with patch?
  25. mcdj macrumors G3


    Jul 10, 2007
    If they do come up with a hardware tweak before the next iPhone, us early adopters are gonna take a hit when it comes time to sell our phones next summer.

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