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Not just that. All of those sticker-related features are useless for majority of folks who are no longer teenagers.
Today’s teenagers could be responsible for money being spent on Apple products for 50-60 more years. So, focusing on features for them make sense. And, when they’re older, and Apple’s still focusing on features for that year’s teenagers, they may even end up with the same complaints! :)
 
Yes the message is customizable. Seems like a few readers here missed the statements in the article that says if a custom message isn’t used, there’s a default one.



Also, I’d suggest using the term “outgoing message” or “voicemail announcement” unless Apple uses the term “custom-created voicemail message”

Ah, my fault for skimming while working/waiting for 0s and 1s to finish downloading. TY
 
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And the article states that you can opt to record your OWN message, or turn it off entirely, so we aren’t sure what all the hullabaloo is about.
To be fair, MacRumors updated the article to add that later. It wasn’t there when the article was first published, and even I was confused as to why I wasn’t experiencing this behaviour until I read a few more posts in here and tested removing my greeting.
 
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That’s exactly what it does for me. My custom voicemail is working just with no beep, so I always have a delay with people starting, but there is no message that this article refers too. Maybe it’s carrier dependent? I have Verizon.

Edit: never mind, I actually read the entire article. All of these people having issues use a standard greeting.
Yeah, that was added later… the original didn’t say anything about a custom greeting being left alone. In fact, it implied the very opposite. This is what it originally said (emphasis mine):

The person calling you does not hear the typical voicemail message that you might have customized, as Apple has replaced the wording.

 
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The whole option for this live voicemail doesn't appear on my iOS 17 phone at all. US and Canada only at this stage.
Yup, probably due to the need for real-time transcription. Voicemail Transcription was the same when it launched in iOS 10, and I’m not sure how much farther it’s expanded since then… I can’t find anything on Apple’s site except that it’s still technically in beta and “available only in certain countries or regions.”
 
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OK but will it still be transcribed then ?
Yup. The greeting is simply played by your iPhone instead of your carrier. With Visual Voicemail, your iPhone has always stored a copy of your greeting anyway, so that part doesn’t really change.

Live Voicemail just picks up the call instead of letting it go to your carrier’s voicemail, at least as long as your iPhone has coverage. What’s great is that with a custom greeting it’s virtually seamless — the caller doesn’t know what they’re getting.

In fact, at this point there’s no way to have a separate greeting for Live Voicemail. If you record a new greeting, it uploads it to your VVM service also, changing it in both places.

IMHO that’s a good thing, which is what makes Apple’s choice to do something different for the default greeting so weird… but, hey… it’s a beta 😄

 
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That is one way. My way is that I do not answer the phone unless they are recognized in my contacts. The only way for people not in my contacts to get to me is to leave a voice mail. I will never use this.
I’ve found it somewhat useful when combined with the “Silence Unknown Callers” feature, as I sometimes get calls from people who aren’t in my contacts, like my doctor’s office or bank, which either come from an unknown number or use different outbound numbers.

With “Silence Unknown” enabled, the phone still won’t ring or alert you, but Live Voicemail will pick up in the background, showing an icon in the status bar to let you know it’s active. You can ignore that or tap on it to see if they’re leaving you a message.

The good news is that blocked callers won’t get Live Voicemail. They’re sent to VVM and handled the same as before, with any message they leave saved in a “Blocked” folder.
 
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Today’s teenagers could be responsible for money being spent on Apple products for 50-60 more years. So, focusing on features for them make sense. And, when they’re older, and Apple’s still focusing on features for that year’s teenagers, they may even end up with the same complaints! :)
That’s a good point, I guess Apple knows their audience.
But, how about some toggles for us non-teenage audience? I see that this new voicemail thing seems optional, but what about stickers for example?
 
I’d love to have Live Voicemail, but the server backend is not standard here across many mobile networks. I’m still stuck having to access my voicemail through a dial-up service with a menu! It sucks.

To get Live Voicemail I’d have to go to a network which costs about double of what I currently spend - an extra 102 euro’s a year in monthly bills, and I use voicemail so rarely that it’s just not worth the extra outlay.
 
I’d love to have Live Voicemail, but the server backend is not standard here across many mobile networks. I’m still stuck having to access my voicemail through a dial-up service with a menu! It sucks.

To get Live Voicemail I’d have to go to a network which costs about double of what I currently spend - an extra 102 euro’s a year in monthly bills, and I use voicemail so rarely that it’s just not worth the extra outlay.
One of the interesting questions about Live Voicemail is whether it will require a subscription to Visual Voicemail.

Apple may enforce this for the sake of a consistent user experience, but there's no technical requirement for any voicemail service on the carrier side, much less VVM. Calls are answered directly by your iPhone, which plays the greeting, records and transcribes the message, and saves it locally.

Not only does the carrier's voicemail service have nothing to do with it, but Live Voicemail recordings aren't even uploaded to your carrier's server — they're only stored locally on your iPhone.

That said, Live Voicemail is only launching in the US and Canada for now, and it could be a while before it expands to other countries.
 
One of the interesting questions about Live Voicemail is whether it will require a subscription to Visual Voicemail.

Apple may enforce this for the sake of a consistent user experience, but there's no technical requirement for any voicemail service on the carrier side, much less VVM. Calls are answered directly by your iPhone, which plays the greeting, records and transcribes the message, and saves it locally.

Not only does the carrier's voicemail service have nothing to do with it, but Live Voicemail recordings aren't even uploaded to your carrier's server — they're only stored locally on your iPhone.

That said, Live Voicemail is only launching in the US and Canada for now, and it could be a while before it expands to other countries.

Question, and I’m sorry if it’s a stupid one, but then why can’t VVM also be done entirely on the phone without the carrier involved? I’ve been paying my carrier $7 CAD/month for VVM since 2008 when I got my iPhone 3G. Would love to not have had to pay that all these years.
 
That’s a good point, I guess Apple knows their audience.
But, how about some toggles for us non-teenage audience? I see that this new voicemail thing seems optional, but what about stickers for example?
I don’t disagree, I just understand why their initial focus would be where it is. However, you can provide that as feedback to Apple as a part of the program.


Not saying that they’ll add it, but I’d definitely post it there just you know Apple’s “heard” it.
 
Question, and I’m sorry if it’s a stupid one, but then why can’t VVM also be done entirely on the phone without the carrier involved? I’ve been paying my carrier $7 CAD/month for VVM since 2008 when I got my iPhone 3G. Would love to not have had to pay that all these years.
Theoretically, it could have. There have been Android apps that replicate this functionality for years, but of course Apple doesn't let third-party apps play with incoming phone calls beyond a few specific (and recent) APIs that allow for things like spam call detection and blocking.

Apple has chosen not to do this, and there are probably some valid reasons why it would have wanted to avoid this. Early iPhone models may not have had the performance to handle it properly, but the biggest issue is that having the phone answer the call requires that it actually be able to receive calls.

Standard voicemail works when your phone is dead or out of coverage; this new Live Voicemail won't, but at least you'd have a "real" voicemail box to fall back to in those situations, and Apple appears to be doing this as seamlessly as possible — at least if you're using a custom greeting, your callers won't know the difference. That's a stark contrast to Google's call screening, which puts the person into a conversation with Google Assistant asking them to explain why you should answer their call. It's also why I suspect Apple may tie Live Voicemail into having VVM; I'm really hoping it doesn't, but Apple is all about the user experience, and the average user may have a hard time understanding why their callers don't get their voicemail box every time they can't answer.

As for why Visual Voicemail costs more, that's due to the "visual" part of voicemail that Apple cooked up — and bear in mind this has been around since the original iPhone launched 16 years ago. This requires special software on the carrier's voicemail servers to download and synchronize the voicemail messages directly to the iPhone over a data connection. It's a lot faster and more reliable than having the iPhone automatically dial into the carrier's voicemail service the old-fashioned way to playback and record the messages onto the iPhone, which would be the only way Apple could do this without setting up special Visual Voicemail services with the carriers. That would end up being a nightmare considering that every carrier uses a different set of menus, prompts, and touch-tone numbers to access voicemail messages.

Sadly, I think Apple's original vision for Visual Voicemail didn't pan out the way it had hoped. AT&T didn't charge extra for VVM with the original iPhone — it was all part of the "iPhone plan," which also included unlimited data for the first time ever. Sadly, as other carriers got their hands on it, they saw it as another money-making opportunity and started charging for it as a value-added service, often at a higher price than "basic" voicemail. Apple had to fight the battles it could win if it hoped to get the iPhone sold around the world, and it held its ground in more important areas, like refusing to allow carriers to sully the iPhone with their own branding and bloatware.
 
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Mine on ios17 beta does not give the beep at all since going from ios16. So the live VM feature doesn’t work as callers are not leaving a VM due to they never get the beep tone.
Yeah, that's the one weird omission right now, which has confused a few of my callers, but most of them just start talking anyway... usually beginning with something like, "Hmmm, I didn't hear a beep, so I dunno, but anyway, if you get this..." 😀

I'm chalking that up to being a bug that should be fixed soon, since it makes no sense at all otherwise.
 
Yep, I turned off live voicemail because absolutely no one knows what to do when it answers. They either stay silent or same their name and wait…
 
Option isn't present for me here in Australia either. The only VM related setting I have is "Change Voicemail Password" ...?

I just assumed this feature wasn't implemented in the betas yet?
 
This seems over-engineered. Just play the voicemail greeting as normal and give the recipient the option of picking up. You know, like we used to do with answering machines.

I don’t want to announce to incoming callers that I’m screening my calls.
When the feature was announced, THIS is what I thought it was.

Apple needs to do this. I 100% agree with you.
 
Option isn't present for me here in Australia either. The only VM related setting I have is "Change Voicemail Password" ...?

I just assumed this feature wasn't implemented in the betas yet?
It’s only available in the U.S. and Canada, or at least only in those languages … it might show up if you set your iPhone to those languages or regions.

As per the footnote for it on Apple’s iOS 17 preview page:

  1. Available in English (Canada, U.S.).
 
wtf is the point of this feature if you can’t have a custom greeting?

would be so easy to just record one like “hey, sorry can’t make it to the phone, if it’s an emergency leave a message and I’ll pick up if I can”—aka…basically already what I have as my voicemail?

confusing execution on Apple’s part for sure. hopefully they realize this and allow for a custom greeting before official release.

“Unless you have a custom-created voicemail message, the default ‌iOS 17‌ voicemail recording asks callers to…”

This only applies to the default greeting. You can make your own.

Just read the article y’all.

In any case, Apple should have just kept the old default as is. They overengineered something simple.
 
“Unless you have a custom-created voicemail message, the default ‌iOS 17‌ voicemail recording asks callers to…”

This only applies to the default greeting. You can make your own.

Just read the article y’all.

In any case, Apple should have just kept the old default as is. They overengineered something simple.
The article has been updated, and the part about custom greeting has been changed. It has been mentioned multiple times above.
Just read the comments y'all...
 
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