All the time.
For example, I may not recognize the number and worry it's a spammer.
Or it's someone I know, but I only want to talk if it's important.
Sure, if "my mom is a liar" is a "success".
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Is Apple's iOS 17 Live Voicemail Feature Too Confusing?
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All the time.
For example, I may not recognize the number and worry it's a spammer.
Or it's someone I know, but I only want to talk if it's important.
Sure, if "my mom is a liar" is a "success".
It works fine with a custom outgoing message, although it has to be the same message that you use for your regular Visual Voicemail — you can't have a different one for when Live Voicemail picks up the call, as the two messages are synced. At least, that's how it works right now.... that could change by the time iOS 17 is released.
Probably, but the public beta is out now, so it's fair game for early adopters to try it out on their everyday phones.
I hate it when programmers speak on behalf of users. That is very bad with automated messages from Ebay.
Fair enough. Though the commenter argued otherwise even after the article was updated.
In any case, thanks for the clarification.
Confusing? Some people are confused about which foot their left and right shoes go on.
How much do they have to dumb it down?
How much do they have to dumb it down?
Voicemail is a useful feature but I always found screening voicemail odd.
You either have time to talk or you don’t. If you’re expecting an important call. Answer it. If not and you don’t know who it is don’t answer.
It’s the same as people who answer then say they don’t have time to talk, why TF did you answer then!
You either have time to talk or you don’t. If you’re expecting an important call. Answer it. If not and you don’t know who it is don’t answer.
It’s the same as people who answer then say they don’t have time to talk, why TF did you answer then!
It does work like an old answering machine, you can record your own message.
It can do that, just record your own message. The only thing over-engineered is the responses here
To be fair, the first three pages of comments are from folks who responded within the first couple of hours after the article was published, when it incorrectly said that Apple’s default greeting was overriding everything, even a custom message.
Sadly, MacRumors’ decision to revise the original post rather than updating it with a correction has made all those people look like dolts for not reading the article and getting overly upset about something with a simple fix, but what the article says now is not the same article those comments were originally based on.
What if you’re not expecting an important call, so you ignore it because you don’t have time for people who just want to yak, but it actually turns out to be an important call?
I ignore most calls I receive because I hate talking to people. Occasionally somebody calls because a family member is in the hospital or they need urgent help with something that I wouldn’t have known to anticipate. So once I screen the VM, I can make an informed decision on whether to return the call or not.
My confusion is I never get a transcript. It always wants me to unlock the phone to see it, but the swipe action answers the call.
It needs to be when Face ID detects your face, the transcript appears on the lockscreen. I literally haven’t seen a single one since Beta 1.
It needs to be when Face ID detects your face, the transcript appears on the lockscreen. I literally haven’t seen a single one since Beta 1.
How on EARTH can anybody be confused?!
Any adult I’ve the age of 30yr old SHOULD KNOW how a voice Mail system works - especially the old cassette tape versions:
You call.
Answering machine picks up.
You start to leave a message
- on the OLD cassette tape recording message systems ANYBODY leaving a voice message knows the call could be picked up by the recipient and they’d continue the call and stop the tap from recording.
This is EXACTLY how iOS 17 works. Its epic fiscally states the recipient MAY pick up. Not that they WILL pick up.
Like how hard is that to understand?
It’s bad enough l33t speak created word abbreviations. Now we have 2 generations on earth whom cannot understand plain simple English!
May does NOT equal a WILL or specific YES.
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No.
may pickup is clear enough.
tough if people cannot understand plain and simple English.
May /= WILL or a YES.
and yet so many people on these boards attack me for grammar - yet too many don’t understand the specific word definitions - shockingly with iOS that has had a built in dictionary for almost a decade of lot more!
since iOS 6!
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then again it doesn’t surprise me since Apple cannot understand the definition of words such as “mirror on iPhone” in Watch settings for Messages cause even THAT doesn’t work as it’s supposed to by its own words!
This feature has been around for decades with landline voice-mail phone machines. You know... when you listen to the Nasty Telemarketers leaving their messages on your landline phone receiver, thus you were essentially screening calls before picking up?
Yes, you had the option to pick up in the middle of someone leaving you a lengthy voicemail.
This "feature" has existed long before iPhones existed. But maybe if you are Generation Z, you wouldn't have a clue about this. Apple is simply retro-alowing us a feature that was standard practice in the 1980s, 1990s, early 2000s. Not really sure if bringing this back is good, bad, or weird.
As for the semantics of Apple's "may pick up"..... they should just drop that stupid phrase. 20 years ago, voice mail recorders never needed this kind of "warning" to callers. Everyone knew how to use voice mail, and they understood that when they were leaving a voice mail, they were being listened to, they were being screened, and that the receiver could pick up at any time.
Yes, you had the option to pick up in the middle of someone leaving you a lengthy voicemail.
This "feature" has existed long before iPhones existed. But maybe if you are Generation Z, you wouldn't have a clue about this. Apple is simply retro-alowing us a feature that was standard practice in the 1980s, 1990s, early 2000s. Not really sure if bringing this back is good, bad, or weird.
As for the semantics of Apple's "may pick up"..... they should just drop that stupid phrase. 20 years ago, voice mail recorders never needed this kind of "warning" to callers. Everyone knew how to use voice mail, and they understood that when they were leaving a voice mail, they were being listened to, they were being screened, and that the receiver could pick up at any time.
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Beta releases should not be used by early adopters
Beta releases should be used by internal Apple professional software developers to identify flaws in the product, and by external developers to optimize their software to the newest operating system. Early adopters should have the .0 release.
I personally don't understand the confusion behind the wording. "May" infers there is a possibility but doesn't state someone "will" pick it up. I wonder if there is information on demographic (age ranges) this is tending to "confuse" more than others.....
Exactly? the old way let me record the message how I wanted, I was unaware that my message wasn't being played to callers. If I create an outgoing message, I expect it to be played, when people called. I was also very upset when I got my first cell phone with voice mail, that would play my outgoing message, play another out going message that would say "To leave a messag, start recording after the beep, then press 1 to save, or hang up, or press 2 to re record"
I’ve had people tell me it seems very passive aggressive, like I’m screening my calls. Like they interpret the message as “they’re there, but they’ve yet to decide if you’re worth listening to, state your case”. (Obviously they know that’s not me saying that, but that’s the vibe of the message as of now)